Could the eruption of yellowstone fulfill Revelation 6:12?

DiscipleEthan said:

Not to scare anyone, but there's a speculation going around that the eruption of yellowstone could fulfill all the cataclysmic events described in Revelation 6:12. What do you think of this speculation? It's only a speculation so all views are welcome

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What else is new? It never stops...because people would rather hear the sensational, than get in the word and know that's ridiculous.

DiscipleEthan said:

Not to scare anyone, but there's a speculation going around that the eruption of yellowstone could fulfill all the cataclysmic events described in Revelation 6:12. What do you think of this speculation? It's only a speculation so all views are welcome

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No, because I live in the Southern Hemisphere and the effects of eruptions, storms, etc do not cross the equatorial zone.
The Sixth Seal event will effect all the world and from the over 100 prophesies about that judgement/punishment disaster, we can ascertain it will be a Coronal Mass Ejection sunstrike of unprecedented magnitude. Confirmed by Isaiah 30:26, 2 Peter 3:7 and Malachi 4:1
There WILL be volcanic eruptions, storms, earthquakes and tsunamis, a massive CME will cause that and literally fulfil all the graphic prophesies about the terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath.

The sixth seal opened when the Lord's judgement of Jerusalem in 70 AD began. It flows with Matthew 24:29, 31...Mark 13:24-27...and Luke 21:25-28.

You can know this applied specifically to Jerusalem based on Luke's account. Particularly Luke 21:12-24.

ebedmelech said:

The sixth seal opened when the Lord's judgement of Jerusalem in 70 AD began. It flows with Matthew 24:29, 31...Mark 13:24-27...and Luke 21:25-28.

You can know this applied specifically to Jerusalem based on Luke's account. Particularly Luke 21:12-24.

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Really, Ebedmelech, why don't you actually read what the Bible says?
Did the sun turn black and the moon blood red when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem? At any time between 70 - 135 CE?
These are specific prophesies, talking about what will happen to solid objects, let alone the rest of Rev 6:12-17.
Yes, Luke 21:12-24 speak of the Roman conquest of Judea. But 25-28 are certainly not for that time and have not yet been fulfilled.

keras said:

Really, Ebedmelech, why don't you actually read what the Bible says?

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I did...many times! However, I read HOW it says it...and also and compared it as well Keras. It is you who don't get what scripture is communicating.

keras said:

Did the sun turn black and the moon blood red when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem? At any time between 70 - 135 CE?

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Jesus borrowed this language from Isaiah 13 as God prophesies through Isaiah, the judgment of Babylon at Isaiah 13:1:
The oracle concerning Babylon which Isaiah the son of Amoz saw.

Jesus particularly quoted Isaiah 13:10, 11:
10 For the stars of heaven and their constellations Will not flash forth their light; The sun will be dark when it rises And the moon will not shed its light.
11 Thus I will punish the world for its evil And the wicked for their iniquity; I will also put an end to the arrogance of the proud And abase the haughtiness of the ruthless.

All one has to do is search the scriptures! At Isaiah 13:17 HOW God judges Babylon is given:
17 Behold, I am going to stir up the Medes against them, Who will not value silver or take pleasure in gold.

keras said:

These are specific prophesies, talking about what will happen to solid objects, let alone the rest of Rev 6:12-17. Yes, Luke 21:12-24 speak of the Roman conquest of Judea. But 25-28 are certainly not for that time and have not yet been fulfilled.

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They certainly are specific! However, you have missed what they mean! This is God's language of judgment. The "blood moon" nonsense you suggest shows you don't compare scripture with scripture.

I've shown the correlation of the language Keras. You will also find it in Joel 2:30-32 also. This was where God ACTUALLY granted signs in the heavens, as Peter communicates at Acts 2:14-21. See if you understand what Peter is speaking of.

Isaiah 13 is another example of a mixture of prophecy; some that was fulfilled in ancient times and some yet to come. This is commonly understood, except by those with an agenda of confusion.
Proof of your confusion, is how you mix two different events: the moon blood red in one and the moon will not give her light, in another.
Once again, unless you can give historical proof of either of these signs happening in the past, then your preterist belief is false. Tell us as well, when Isaiah 13:13 happened.

keras said:

Isaiah 13 is another example of a mixture of prophecy; some that was fulfilled in ancient times and some yet to come. This is commonly understood, except by those with an agenda of confusion.
Proof of your confusion, is how you mix two different events: the moon blood red in one and the moon will not give her light, in another.
Once again, unless you can give historical proof of either of these signs happening in the past, then your preterist belief is false. Tell us as well, when Isaiah 13:13 happened.

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No Keras. Look at the difference. Revelation 6:12 says the moon became red LIKE blood...so this is NOT LITERALLY a blood moon...you want to make it that, and that adds to your error.

As I asked you, do you understand what Peter is saying in Acts 2:14-21?

I'm waiting on an answer. Either you can or you can't.

DiscipleEthan said:

Not to scare anyone, but there's a speculation going around that the eruption of yellowstone could fulfill all the cataclysmic events described in Revelation 6:12. What do you think of this speculation? It's only a speculation so all views are welcome

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It is my personal belief that the eruption of yellowstone will be part of the 6th seal and not the cause of. With the entire earth essentially being reformed during this process, it would make since for the eruption to be part of it.

ebedmelech said:

No Keras. Look at the difference. Revelation 6:12 says the moon became red LIKE blood...so this is NOT LITERALLY a blood moon...you want to make it that, and that adds to your error.

As I asked you, do you understand what Peter is saying in Acts 2:14-21?

I'm waiting on an answer. Either you can or you can't.

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Well my translation states that the moon will be turned into blood. I personally don't believe this will be the blood moon that we are currently seeing (2 last year and 2 this year). I believe that the (combined) event will be both supernatural and natural.

DiscipleEthan said:

Not to scare anyone, but there's a speculation going around that the eruption of yellowstone could fulfill all the cataclysmic events described in Revelation 6:12. What do you think of this speculation? It's only a speculation so all views are welcome

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I think that it is possible but when it comes down to it we won't know until after it happens.

The big one for me is the 2nd Trumpet - the mountain of fire cast into the sea, which sounds staggeringly like an asteroid impact (something that the writer could never have known about by human means at the time of writing). If a big asteroid hits the ocean (and it has to be a "mountainous" size) then I'd say that would be the clearest sign.

Inkfingers said:

I think that it is possible but when it comes down to it we won't know until after it happens.

The big one for me is the 2nd Trumpet - the mountain of fire cast into the sea, which sounds staggeringly like an asteroid impact (something that the writer could never have known about by human means at the time of writing). If a big asteroid hits the ocean (and it has to be a "mountainous" size) then I'd say that would be the clearest sign.

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I believe that is actually another volcano. I say this because if you look at the 3rd trumpet, that one actually mentions "a great star fell from heaven".

Echolipse said:

I believe that is actually another volcano. I say this because if you look at the 3rd trumpet, that one actually mentions "a great star fell from heaven".

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The idea that it is a volcano occured to me as well, but I don't think that it is a volcano that is being spoken of because it describes a mountain all ablaze being cast into the sea. Which is not quite the same as a volcano erupting (which would not be a totally unfamiliar concept in Biblical times - so could be clearly stated).

It really does sound more like an asteroid hitting earth.

If you read the trumpets from 1 to 5 you get a series of celestial events that sound like an asteroid swarm hitting earth:
* firey hail
* mountain all ablaze cast into ocean
* the falling wormwood star
* 1/3rd of sun and moon shut dark
* star falling that opens the bottomless pit and releases Apollyon
I don't think its a coincidence that they all are about things falling from the sky to bring devastation. It sounds very much like a celestial event rather than just some volcanoes.

Inkfingers said:

The idea that it is a volcano occured to me as well, but I don't think that it is a volcano that is being spoken of because it describes a mountain all ablaze being cast into the sea. Which is not quite the same as a volcano erupting (which would not be a totally unfamiliar concept in Biblical times - so could be clearly stated).

It really does sound more like an asteroid hitting earth.

If you read the trumpets from 1 to 5 you get a series of celestial events that sound like an asteroid swarm hitting earth:
* firey hail
* mountain all ablaze cast into ocean
* the falling wormwood star
* 1/3rd of sun and moon shut dark
* star falling that opens the bottomless pit and releases Apollyon
I don't think its a coincidence that they all are about things falling from the sky to bring devastation. It sounds very much like a celestial event rather than just some volcanoes.

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I understand where you're going with this. While at this time I am still sticking with my original theory, I will go back and reread them just for the heck of it. But I am seeing the context of the events (all from the sky and heavens).

ebedmelech said:

No Keras. Look at the difference. Revelation 6:12 says the moon became red LIKE blood...so this is NOT LITERALLY a blood moon...you want to make it that, and that adds to your error.

As I asked you, do you understand what Peter is saying in Acts 2:14-21?

I'm waiting on an answer. Either you can or you can't.

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I'm waiting on an answer too, I can't figure it out.

Are you saying the moon will be red LIKE blood or as red AS blood but not filled up with real literal blood?

Are you saying that the moon is symbolic for something else?

What does Peter and the day of Pentecost have to do with this?

Thanks Echolipse, I am in agreement with you, in that if a prophecy can be literally fulfilled, then it WILL be.
In Acts 2:14-20, Peter reiterated the prophecy of Joel 2:28-32. It was a partial fulfilment; of the Holy Spirit falling on a few people then, but the final fulfilment is yet to come, as Rev. 6:12-17 makes clear. There has been no historical events happen as described, then or up until today, in the over 100 prophesies about the Day of the Lord's judgement/punishment of the nations. Psalm 110:5-6, Hab. 3:12, Matt 3:12, 2 Peter 3:7

Dave W, those so called: blood moon tetrads, are just a normal, predictable occurrence. But because so much hype has been made of them, then maybe they do constitute a 'sign'.
But prophecy is clear: there will be a Day when the moon will shine 'blood red'. Also, we see in Isaiah 30:26, the moon will shine as bright as the sun and the sun will shine seven times brighter....
For the sun to suddenly become 7 times brighter, [stronger, hotter] the only explanation we know that can do that is a Coronal Mass Ejection, something that has happened in the past and scientists warn: is not a matter of if, but when the earth will be struck and badly affected by another CME.
The Lord says He will use His creation to punish His enemies. Deut. 32:22 & 34-35, Malachi 4:1, Hebrews 10:27, Isaiah 29:6
Regarding the moon becoming bright red, there will be a thermite reaction, very bright, very hot when the CME cloud of superheated hydrogen hits the moon dust. Lunar regolith consists of mostly Aluminium Oxide. Result: pure Aluminium and water.

Dave Watchman said:

I'm waiting on an answer too, I can't figure it out.

Are you saying the moon will be red LIKE blood or as red AS blood but not filled up with real literal blood?

Are you saying that the moon is symbolic for something else?

What does Peter and the day of Pentecost have to do with this?

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Read his Acts 2 sermon. Particularly where Peter quotes the prophet Joel,

keras said:

Thanks Echolipse, I am in agreement with you, in that if a prophecy can be literally fulfilled, then it WILL be.
In Acts 2:14-20, Peter reiterated the prophecy of Joel 2:28-32. It was a partial fulfilment; of the Holy Spirit falling on a few people then, but the final fulfilment is yet to come, as Rev. 6:12-17 makes clear. There has been no historical events happen as described, then or up until today, in the over 100 prophesies about the Day of the Lord's judgement/punishment of the nations. Psalm 110:5-6, Hab. 3:12, Matt 3:12, 2 Peter 3:7

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Peter said nothing of a "partial fulfillment! Peter clearly said "THIS IS THAT WHICH WAS SPOKEN BY THE PROPHET JOEL...."

You say it's a partial fulfillment. You're not an apostle...so you don't count.

Ebed, if a prophecy is not totally fulfilled as clearly described, then it has only a partial fulfillement and we await its completion. Otherwise God's Word is errant.
Unless you can show historical records of a sun flash and the moon blood red, then everyone here will know for sure that you are a false teacher.

keras said:

Ebed, if a prophecy is not totally fulfilled as clearly described, then it has only a partial fulfillement and we await its completion. Otherwise God's Word is errant.
Unless you can show historical records of a sun flash and the moon blood red, then everyone here will know for sure that you are a false teacher.

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The NT shows the only thing remaining is the resurrection Keras.

When it comes to your "blood moon" belief...you must take what Peter has said of Joel 2:28-32.

Note that Peter has interpreted the prophecy for you at Pentecost with the coming of the Holy Spirit. He clearly states at Acts 2:32:
32 “And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the Lord Will be delivered; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem There will be those who escape, As the Lord has said, Even among the survivors whom the Lord calls.

Take note Keras that this is AFTER "the moon being turned into blood.

YOU are the one in error Keras...because in what Peter has said this is AFTER the moon becoming LIKE blood!

Watch what Peter says in describing this in Acts 2:22
22 “Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know—
23 this Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.

Everything of Joel was fulfilled at the cross and at Pentecost Keras! Peter has clearly summarized that> The language you believe to be literal IS NOT literal at all. Peter made that VERY PLAIN!

What you need to do is go back and look at the crucifixion, and let God tell you the story. Like Matthew 27:45-54, Mark 15:33-37, and Luke 23:44-46.

You're trying to make God reveal every detail, when God is saying it the way HE WISHES TO DO SO. You assume because it doesn't say the moon became like blood that it didn't happen.

That's because you look literal...that is your error!

I won't call you a *false teacher*, because I would assume to know your motive...which I don't and can't know because only God knows that. I will say you are a mistaken teacher! You can keep trying to discredit what I believe the scripture is revealing. That would be because you're frustrated that I won't see it your way.

I have the liberty as a believer to trust the Holy Spirit to lead me to truth. In the 27 years since I was saved through the grace of the the gospel, I know many times I believed error... NOT intentionally, but in my striving to understand God's word. I keep and continue striving to understand God's word.

From where I stand Keras....the error is yours.