For discussion only:
Dan.7:5, And behold another beast, a second, like a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, and devour much flesh.
I took Dan.7:5 and broke down every Hebrew word in the verse, and following is what I found.
Most commentators believe the bear represents Persia, and the three ribs may represent other empires, kingdoms, military or political powers. But I approached the subject as a spiritual matter, it having a theme of a hostile takeover of Christs authority and power. In this takeover of power and authority certain men over the centuries declared that they alone controlled the keys of heaven and hell; and through their own mandates changed the gospel of God, to the doctrines of hell.
Using the Strongs # system I have posting the Strong's # next to each word in the text, than paraphrase the verse. This is the Hebrew meaning of key words in the verse.
Dan.7:5, Another beast, the 2ed beast was like a bear (#1678, the bear symbolizing an enemy or a slanderer, one who prejudges), it (the bear) raised (#6966 stood) itself on one side (#7859 meaning to apostatized, agandoned the faith, departed from), and it (the bear) had three ribs (5967 ribs meaning it absorbed, sucked, swallowed down as blood) in the mouth (# 6433) of it (the bear) between the teeth,(#8128 teeth meaning anything sharp or pointed, or as having a single position) and was told to arise (# 6966 stand), devour (# 399 eat, devour) much flesh (# 1321 mankind).
Paraphrased, The 2ed beast raised itself up, slandered, apostatized, threatened and murdered, drank the blood of, and destroyed the souls of many with deceiving words.
The majority of commentators believe the bear represents Persia, and the ribs, Media, Lydia, Babylon, or Egypt (you pick your three) as being ground in the teeth of the Persian bear.
But I took a little different approach. For the sake of discussion, let's say the three ribs in the mouth of the bear are three periods of time, the first beginning with Christ being cut off at the cross, Dan.9:26.
Here are a few of the possibilities, the bear represents the slanderer and the three ribs either,
1. Media, Lydia, Babylon, or Egypt: you pick your 3.
2. Or some political, religious, and social entities:
3. Three military powers:
4. Or possibly the following: In Rev.2, we find the letter to the seven churches. In this letter, we find three heretical doctrines mentioned.
A. The deeds of the Nicolatans., Rev.2:6;
B. The doctrines of Balaam, Rev.2:14; and these also hold to the doctrines of the Nicolaitans.
C. And the teaching and seduction of the woman Jezebel who seduced Gods servants, and committed fornication, Rev.2:20.
I have applied these three doctrines to three separate periods of time, each being 666 years and ending in the year 2027 A.D. So the question is, have these three doctrines become interwoven with the doctrines of the gospel of Christ over the centuries; and is there any evidence that they may be directly linked to the churches fall (for the most part) from grace? Can these be the three ribs the bear holds in its mouth? They appear to fit very well with the history of Christianity.
I have investigate the growth of the early churches from the time of the crucifiction; the power play of men who took for themselves Christs glory and authority for their own greed? In the early church these men claimed to be the Vicars of Christ, the Holy See, demanding for their own, Christs authority and taking for them self His glory.
In this play for power, they demanded the souls of every believer, and claimed authority over nations. They claim to hold the keys to heaven and hell. Their actions sowed the seeds for anti-Semitism; Mohamadism; bringing to bear upon the nations their crusades; and upon men their inquisitions. In a final act of disobedience they plastered over the finished work of the cross, fashioning for themselves images of saints, than bringing the people to the feet of these images in worship with the threat of excommunication, torture, or death.
The three periods would be
1. from Christs crucifiction to the 7th century;
2. From the 7th to the 14th century;
3. From the 14th to the year 2027 A.D.
Your thoughts;
Phil LaSpino
Dan.7:5, And behold another beast, a second, like a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, and devour much flesh.
I took Dan.7:5 and broke down every Hebrew word in the verse, and following is what I found.
Most commentators believe the bear represents Persia, and the three ribs may represent other empires, kingdoms, military or political powers. But I approached the subject as a spiritual matter, it having a theme of a hostile takeover of Christs authority and power. In this takeover of power and authority certain men over the centuries declared that they alone controlled the keys of heaven and hell; and through their own mandates changed the gospel of God, to the doctrines of hell.
Using the Strongs # system I have posting the Strong's # next to each word in the text, than paraphrase the verse. This is the Hebrew meaning of key words in the verse.
Dan.7:5, Another beast, the 2ed beast was like a bear (#1678, the bear symbolizing an enemy or a slanderer, one who prejudges), it (the bear) raised (#6966 stood) itself on one side (#7859 meaning to apostatized, agandoned the faith, departed from), and it (the bear) had three ribs (5967 ribs meaning it absorbed, sucked, swallowed down as blood) in the mouth (# 6433) of it (the bear) between the teeth,(#8128 teeth meaning anything sharp or pointed, or as having a single position) and was told to arise (# 6966 stand), devour (# 399 eat, devour) much flesh (# 1321 mankind).
Paraphrased, The 2ed beast raised itself up, slandered, apostatized, threatened and murdered, drank the blood of, and destroyed the souls of many with deceiving words.
The majority of commentators believe the bear represents Persia, and the ribs, Media, Lydia, Babylon, or Egypt (you pick your three) as being ground in the teeth of the Persian bear.
But I took a little different approach. For the sake of discussion, let's say the three ribs in the mouth of the bear are three periods of time, the first beginning with Christ being cut off at the cross, Dan.9:26.
Here are a few of the possibilities, the bear represents the slanderer and the three ribs either,
1. Media, Lydia, Babylon, or Egypt: you pick your 3.
2. Or some political, religious, and social entities:
3. Three military powers:
4. Or possibly the following: In Rev.2, we find the letter to the seven churches. In this letter, we find three heretical doctrines mentioned.
A. The deeds of the Nicolatans., Rev.2:6;
B. The doctrines of Balaam, Rev.2:14; and these also hold to the doctrines of the Nicolaitans.
C. And the teaching and seduction of the woman Jezebel who seduced Gods servants, and committed fornication, Rev.2:20.
I have applied these three doctrines to three separate periods of time, each being 666 years and ending in the year 2027 A.D. So the question is, have these three doctrines become interwoven with the doctrines of the gospel of Christ over the centuries; and is there any evidence that they may be directly linked to the churches fall (for the most part) from grace? Can these be the three ribs the bear holds in its mouth? They appear to fit very well with the history of Christianity.
I have investigate the growth of the early churches from the time of the crucifiction; the power play of men who took for themselves Christs glory and authority for their own greed? In the early church these men claimed to be the Vicars of Christ, the Holy See, demanding for their own, Christs authority and taking for them self His glory.
In this play for power, they demanded the souls of every believer, and claimed authority over nations. They claim to hold the keys to heaven and hell. Their actions sowed the seeds for anti-Semitism; Mohamadism; bringing to bear upon the nations their crusades; and upon men their inquisitions. In a final act of disobedience they plastered over the finished work of the cross, fashioning for themselves images of saints, than bringing the people to the feet of these images in worship with the threat of excommunication, torture, or death.
The three periods would be
1. from Christs crucifiction to the 7th century;
2. From the 7th to the 14th century;
3. From the 14th to the year 2027 A.D.
Your thoughts;
Phil LaSpino
