FCC keeps pressure on Congress for "net neutrality" legislation

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Get ready: The FCC says it will vote on net neutrality in February - The Washington Post
President Obama's top telecom regulator, Tom Wheeler, told fellow FCC commissioners before the Christmas holiday that he intends to circulate a draft proposal internally next month with an eye toward approving the measure weeks later ...

The timing indicates Wheeler does not see the need for more public input on the benefits and drawbacks of using Title II, as earlier reports suggested. It also implies the FCC will not be able to avoid a showdown with Congress over net neutrality.
The good works of the Obama administration just keep on coming. :eek:
 

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Get ready: The FCC says it will vote on net neutrality in February - The Washington Post
President Obama's top telecom regulator, Tom Wheeler, told fellow FCC commissioners before the Christmas holiday that he intends to circulate a draft proposal internally next month with an eye toward approving the measure weeks later ...

The timing indicates Wheeler does not see the need for more public input on the benefits and drawbacks of using Title II, as earlier reports suggested. It also implies the FCC will not be able to avoid a showdown with Congress over net neutrality.
The good works of the Obama administration just keep on coming. :eek:

Okay, I'll bite.

What about this scenario do you find upsetting?
 
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Get ready: The FCC says it will vote on net neutrality in February - The Washington Post
President Obama's top telecom regulator, Tom Wheeler, told fellow FCC commissioners before the Christmas holiday that he intends to circulate a draft proposal internally next month with an eye toward approving the measure weeks later ...

The timing indicates Wheeler does not see the need for more public input on the benefits and drawbacks of using Title II, as earlier reports suggested. It also implies the FCC will not be able to avoid a showdown with Congress over net neutrality.
The good works of the Obama administration just keep on coming. :eek:

They renewed CISPA while everyone was distracted looking at North Korea and the alleged Sony hacking. It is basically done.
 
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They renewed CISPA while everyone was distracted looking at North Korea and the alleged Sony hacking. It is basically done.

I would imagine that the CISPA would have been a tremendous help with the North Korea and alleged hacking situation, specifically. I would think, anyway.

Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edited: Are you sure it got signed? My link is saying that the White House planned to veto it, and I cannot find any confirmation that it has been signed. Link please. :confused:
 
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Get ready: The FCC says it will vote on net neutrality in February - The Washington Post
President Obama's top telecom regulator, Tom Wheeler, told fellow FCC commissioners before the Christmas holiday that he intends to circulate a draft proposal internally next month with an eye toward approving the measure weeks later ...

The timing indicates Wheeler does not see the need for more public input on the benefits and drawbacks of using Title II, as earlier reports suggested. It also implies the FCC will not be able to avoid a showdown with Congress over net neutrality.
The good works of the Obama administration just keep on coming. :eek:

Title II is the key to net neutrality?so what is it?

I like the whole idea of Title II, and am skeptical that President Obama would be against Net Neutrality, since he was the one who asked the FCC to develop regulations supporting an open internet. What you're saying is the exact opposite of his position.

President Obama Urges FCC to Implement Stronger Net Neutrality Rules
 
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I would imagine that the CISPA would have been a tremendous help with the North Korea and alleged hacking situation, specifically. I would think, anyway.

Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edited: Are you sure it got signed? My link is saying that the White House planned to veto it, and I cannot find any confirmation that it has been signed. Link please. :confused:
Allowing the federal government to search private property without a warrant would help?

The hacking of Sony does not pose a national security threat.
 
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Allowing the federal government to search private property without a warrant would help?

The hacking of Sony does not pose a national security threat.

Well, the NSA exists, and has for a long, long time. The NSA and FBI are our policemen of the Internet. Someone needs to be working that beat, so that it doesn't become the wild, wild west. That would be dangerous.
 
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But yes, Internet providers should be regulated just like public utilities = Title II. I don't think Congress wants that. But I think the FCC is on board with doing just that, and that is good news for consumers. The water people aren't allowed to charge what the market will bear. The power people aren't either (and they were caught doing it = Enron). I think going through the FCC is the best way.
 
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So what does everyone think about Title II (expanding the definition of a public utility to include Internet Providers)?

Nighthawkeye, Happy New Year (and to DaisyDay as well)! :wave:

Why don't you like Title II, or assume that it should at least be up for discussion?
 
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Well, the NSA exists, and has for a long, long time. The NSA and FBI are our policemen of the Internet. Someone needs to be working that beat, so that it doesn't become the wild, wild west. That would be dangerous.

Kind-of, but not quite. The nation does have a cybersecurity strategy, but network security is largely privatized. It's not the failing of the NSA or FBI when Sony's servers get hacked - it's the failure of Sony to protect their data. The NSA or FBI get involved after there has been an incident.

I think you missed the important part of my post - CISPA allows the search of private property without a warrant.

CISPA permits police to do warrantless database searches - CNET
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/cispa-government-access-loophole
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/cispa-privacy-invading-cybersecurity-spying-bill-back-congress
 
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Kind-of, but not quite. The nation does have a cybersecurity strategy, but network security is largely privatized. It's not the failing of the NSA or FBI when Sony's servers get hacked - it's the failure of Sony to protect their data. The NSA or FBI get involved after there has been an incident.

I think you missed the important part of my post - CISPA allows the search of private property without a warrant.

CISPA permits police to do warrantless database searches - CNET
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/cispa-government-access-loophole
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/cispa-privacy-invading-cybersecurity-spying-bill-back-congress

I didn't miss the warrant-less part, but I didn't think it was nearly as intimidating as criminals, hackers and even information collected about us by private companies -- THAT is all done without a warrant! Why handicap the policemen of the internet, when the people they need to keep an eye on, are given so much freedom? That has never made any sense to me.

But net neutrality (sorry, NIghtHawkeye!) prevents the Internet providers from turning us upside down and shaking every last nickle out of our pockets. Internet connections should not be auctioned off to the highest bidder. That would be price gouging by what is effectively a public utility.
 
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But net neutrality (sorry, NIghtHawkeye!) prevents the Internet providers from turning us upside down and shaking every last nickle out of our pockets.
... and will do so about as well as communism in Russia and China made life better for the masses.

Government control of the internet industry will involve large additional taxes and undesirable effects on a massive scale.
Internet connections should not be auctioned off to the highest bidder. That would be price gouging by what is effectively a public utility.
Government control of the internet will involve crony capitalism by a few companies which are "too large to fail".
 
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... and will do so about as well as communism in Russia and China made life better for the masses.

Government control of the internet industry will involve large additional taxes and undesirable effects on a massive scale.
Government control of the internet will involve crony capitalism by a few companies which are "too large to fail".

Maybe you've missed it, but we've explained several times in the past that our current system is very nearly a monopoly already. The dystopian future you predict is already our present. Companies like Comcast and AT&T want to ban municipal cable because that threatens their monopoly. Municipal cable has already proven itself higher quality and lower price than anything the private companies offer because they offer over-priced and under-developed products due to the lack of competition.


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... and will do so about as well as communism in Russia and China made life better for the masses.

China and the Russia have implemented state capitalism, not communism.

Also, I'm not sure what you're trying to imply about high speed broadband. Are you suggesting that if municipal cable competes with private cable that the people will be harmed?
 
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Maybe you've missed it, but we've explained several times in the past that our current system is very nearly a monopoly already. The dystopian future you predict is already our present. Companies like Comcast and AT&T want to ban municipal cable because that threatens their monopoly. Municipal cable has already proven itself higher quality and lower price than anything the private companies offer because they offer over-priced and under-developed products due to the lack of competition.
Then, I would simply suggest to you, Morningstar, that the solution lies in busting the monopolies ... not in establishing an even bigger one at the government level which will be far more difficult to fix when it goes awry, as it most certainly will.
 
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