question about reward and punishment for born again Christians?

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my understanding is who don't know exactly the nature of those reward will be, but my understanding is how much we get will depends on everything we do on this earth.

likewise, we will miss out on some of them accordingly.

for example

every single evil we done against others even though we know we should not do them, we will be forgiven if we ask for forgiveness, but they will still have impact on our reward?

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my understanding is who don't know exactly the nature of those reward will be, but my understanding is how much we get will depends on everything we do on this earth.

likewise, we will miss out on some of them accordingly.

for example

every single evil we done against others even though we know we should not do them, we will be forgiven if we ask for forgiveness, but they will still have impact on our reward?

thanks

It probably can be said in a variety of other ways, but what you wrote here is essentially the right answer.
 
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my understanding is who don't know exactly the nature of those reward will be, but my understanding is how much we get will depends on everything we do on this earth.

likewise, we will miss out on some of them accordingly.

for example

every single evil we done against others even though we know we should not do them, we will be forgiven if we ask for forgiveness, but they will still have impact on our reward?

thanks

I think...that the things we do while expecting to be rewarded probably won't count towards any reward. God ain't for sale.
 
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my understanding is who don't know exactly the nature of those reward will be, but my understanding is how much we get will depends on everything we do on this earth.

likewise, we will miss out on some of them accordingly.

for example

every single evil we done against others even though we know we should not do them, we will be forgiven if we ask for forgiveness, but they will still have impact on our reward?

thanks
But it's okay, because the good people will share theirs.
 
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But it's okay, because the good people will share theirs.

I always thought that those who received rewards would follow the lead of their elders. See Revelation 4:10.

HAPPY NEW YEAR .. :wave:

--David
 
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I think...that the things we do while expecting to be rewarded probably won't count towards any reward. God ain't for sale.

Hi SeeingEyes, while I believe you are quite correct, remember that there are some this side of Glory who have "Indulged" other thoughts .. ;)

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

--David
 
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I always thought that those who received rewards would follow the lead of their elders. See Revelation 4:10.

HAPPY NEW YEAR .. :wave:

--David
I always thought those who are casting their crowns are the angels giving them over to the humans who will be the new rulers ... but that's been discussed on this board to no avail....

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
 
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I tend not to talk about the rewards in heavens thing. In fact I dislike talking about it because it encourages folks to work for a better position in heaven. instead of working for Christ. A almost posthumous prosperity teaching.I believe in the rewards after heaven, and we will be surprised for those who will actually get what they think they deserve. In reality it will still be great, but well deserved none the less. While it is true. it shouldn't be the reason you do Christian service, which is what I fear will be the reasons people do Christian service and pretty much circumvents everything Christ teaches concerning love for God and fellow man. It creates a selfish hypocrisy within the christian community if left unchecked.
 
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The rewards in the Kingdom are a bonus and shouldn't be the goal of a Christian. The goal of a Christian is to please God,worship Him and get TO the Kingdom. Christianity isn't a religion where you collect reward points like you can on credit cards,frequent flying stuff,etc,etc.

Do good not because you will be rewarded in the Kingdom of God but do good because you want to love and please God and it's the right thing to do.
 
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Hi SeeingEyes, while I believe you are quite correct, remember that there are some this side of Glory who have "Indulged" other thoughts .. ;)

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

--David
The mindset is not limited to indulgences. "Believing in Jesus" for the purposes of saving one's own butt from hell is the same thing.
 
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The mindset is not limited to indulgences. "Believing in Jesus" for the purposes of saving one's own butt from hell is the same thing.
That would be the error of Balaam and not as one who believes in the God who will return with His rewards with Him.
 
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I always thought those who are casting their crowns are the angels giving them over to the humans who will be the new rulers ...

Hi Cassia, I am interested to know why you believe that considering what Revelation 4:9-11 says, but I do not want to derail this thread.

If you don't mind, and if you have the time, would you send me a PM and let me know how you came to that conclusion as I have never seen/heard of it before.

Thanks!

Yours and His,
David
 
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Hi Cassia, I am interested to know why you believe that considering what Revelation 4:9-11 says, but I do not want to derail this thread.

If you don't mind, and if you have the time, would you send me a PM and let me know how you came to that conclusion as I have never seen/heard of it before.

Thanks!

Yours and His,
David
Hi David, the elders can be seen as the church by the pretribs but my belief is midtrib with the angels being the elders. I've given the reasons for why that seems more logical in this thread.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7772032/

It began in GT and I asked to have it moved to end times forums, but it isn't a common belief even with all the evidence.
 
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Here's some verses on rewards of the future:
1 Corinthians 3:13-14
13 the work of each builder will become visible, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each has done.
14 If what has been built on the foundation survives, the builder will receive a reward.

Matthew 5:12
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

1 Corinthians 3:8
The one who plants and the one who waters have a common purpose, and each will receive wages according to the labor of each.
While confidence now seems to be for the present time:
Hebrews 10:35-36
35 Do not, therefore, abandon that confidence of yours; it brings a great reward. 36 For you need endurance, so that when you have done the will of God, you may receive what was promised.
And this seems to be at the time of the Lord's second coming:
Revelation 11:18
The nations raged,
but your wrath has come,
and the time for judging the dead,
for rewarding your servants, the prophets
and saints and all who fear your name,
both small and great,
and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

Matthew 16:27
“For the Son of Man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay everyone for what has been done.

Revelation 22:12
“See, I am coming soon; my reward is with me, to repay according to everyone’s work.

2 John 1:8
Look to yourselves that you do not lose the things which we wrought, but that you may receive a full reward.
 
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my understanding is who don't know exactly the nature of those reward will be, but my understanding is how much we get will depends on everything we do on this earth.

likewise, we will miss out on some of them accordingly.

for example

every single evil we done against others even though we know we should not do them, we will be forgiven if we ask for forgiveness, but they will still have impact on our reward?

thanks

Our LORD taught:

27 "For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. (Mat 16:27 NKJ)

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. (2Co 5:10 NKJ)

4 For I know nothing against myself, yet I am not justified by this; but He who judges me is the Lord.
5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one's praise will come from God. (1Co 4:4-5 NKJ)

10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written: "As I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God."
12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. (Rom 14:10-12 NKJ)

Christ died for our sins while they were all yet future, so I don't believe sins brought on by our fallen nature etc., are unforgiven:

22 by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant.
23 Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing.
24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood.
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
(Heb 7:22-25 NKJ)

But whether you will be in charge of a little, or a lot, does depend upon your industry in Christ:

13 "So he called ten of his servants, delivered to them ten minas, and said to them,`Do business till I come.'
14 "But his citizens hated him, and sent a delegation after him, saying,`We will not have this man to reign over us.'
15 "And so it was that when he returned, having received the kingdom, he then commanded these servants, to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 "Then came the first, saying,`Master, your mina has earned ten minas.'
17 "And he said to him,`Well done, good servant; because you were faithful in a very little, have authority over ten cities.'
18 "And the second came, saying,`Master, your mina has earned five minas.'
19 "Likewise he said to him,`You also be over five cities.'
20 "Then another came, saying,`Master, here is your mina, which I have kept put away in a handkerchief.
21 `For I feared you, because you are an austere man. You collect what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.'
22 "And he said to him,`Out of your own mouth I will judge you, you wicked servant. You knew that I was an austere man, collecting what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow.
23 `Why then did you not put my money in the bank, that at my coming I might have collected it with interest?'
24 "And he said to those who stood by,`Take the mina from him, and give it to him who has ten minas.'
25 ("But they said to him,`Master, he has ten minas.')
26 `For I say to you, that to everyone who has will be given; and from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
(Luk 19:13-26 NKJ)

The "wicked servant" manifests by his total failure to do anything good for the kingdom, he was not a servant of Christ at all.

19 "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 "Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
21 "Not everyone who says to Me,`Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
(Mat 7:19-21 NKJ)

10 "And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. (Mat 3:10 NKJ)
 
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