Sanctification is a process that you begin to go through when you are adopted by God. No man will rightfully discipline and correct children that are not his own, and no good father would fail to discipline his own children.
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Sanctification is a process that you begin to go through when you are adopted by God. No man will rightfully discipline and correct children that are not his own, and no good father would fail to discipline his own children.
Yep . If you are working out your own salvation I guess it would be a daily thing and things would come off in layers .. but .You work out your salvation daily. It ain't busy. Stuff comes off in layers
Not true.KelsayDL said:Jesus never referred to the words of Paul as the word of God (nor anything else in the NT texts).
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; that the man of God may be perfect
Well, we will indeed all know what is truth on that day. Including you.We will each and all know this to be Truth either now or on Judgment Day
Not true.KelsayDL said:Again, one should note the scripture Paul spoke of was the text of the OT. There was no such thing as the NT when paul wrote this LETTER.
He wrote a letter. That after hundreds of years somehow became holy inspired scripture. That was never the intent.
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josiahdefender said:Sanctification is Gods holiness imparted to us by reason of Gods own presence in our lives. As we abide in the vine ( Christ) we partake of the nurishing and blessed empowering of Christ. Holiness is one of Gods communicable attributes. It is a wonderful and glorious thing to know that Christ makes us Holy because we place our hearts and lives into his hands. We need not strive for holiness or rack ourselves with guilt because we find sin seeking to enter back in to dominate. We simply trust that Christ who is our life, will bring life to every area of our hearts that is open and available for his infilling.
Some things to watch for while seeking holiness.
1. It comes by way of communication with God, meaning God IMPARTS his presence in such a way that we sense and are made aware of his direct
influence upon us.
2. It comes by way of prayer and repentance. Not the way of begging and pleading with God to make us holy, nor by reason of enduring shame or guilt from past sins. It is by A LIVING FAITH which seeks to enter deeper into Christ himself.
3. It comes by way of obedience and accountability, not in mere words or agreements but by way of actually being open and teachable to others who are over us. Not the simple agreement that comes from hearing a good sermon, but from the agreement that comes when you are busted for doing wrong, or busted for doing right, and you take it as the word of God and obey it, and seek to find your strength right then from God, not men or self flatteries that you are "ok and dont need this stuff".
4. It comes by way of realizing you are DEAD TO SIN that you cannot live a life of sin any longer, you not only DONT WANT TO SIN, you simply cannot sin, because it is just NOT YOU AS YOU KNOW YOURSELF TO BE. This is not a swallowing up of our personalities but a real EXCHANGE OF life between the way we used to think and live and they way we must live to just be ourselves.
5. Place yourself in a position to HAVE TO TRUST GOD. and stay there.
If you play it safe with your own soul you will never keep your zeal alive for long. Zeal and devotion to Christ invite holiness, since it is an open invitation to God to empower for service and obedience. If your christian walk is so comfortable that it has no effect as to make you a danger to Satans kingdom or a threat to mans thinking, then you will find little holiness in your life. When God enters a mans life, EVERYTHING CHANGES RADICALLY: men and devils know it and draw the sword after they recover themselves some.
There is much more but these will suffice to those who want to know Christ, for who he is, and will find holiness not some elusive virtue, that is spoken of in christian history: you will find it a wonderful virtue that comes from the RESULT of knowing Christ deeply and obeying him implicitly.
Josiah
Not true.KelsayDL said:Funny thing that, since Pauls teachings if christianity interprets him correctly contradict the Father, and Yeshua . . . How unfortunate for the first believers. They were not privy to all of Pauls teachings. Yet those who were, eventually rejected him . . . The Holy Spirit is not responsible for the textual additions in the current NT, that do not exist in the earliest manuscripts we possess.
The doctrines of Paul and the Apostles were different one from another.But even if every Christian believes a false gospel, even if every Christian rejects the doctrines of Paul and the Apostles, Heaven is still bound to those doctrines, and so will every "Christian" be on judgment Day.