Blow the Trumpet
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I would be glad for 'belly' to not expand on his very convoluted post.
Saying: 'Jews are to be lined up in a ditch and shot', is inappropriate and is an uncalled for comment.
Start your own thread, if you seriously want discussion, which I doubt, as like many others, you just want to promote your own views.
Saying: 'Jews are to be lined up in a ditch and shot', is inappropriate and is an uncalled for comment.
Start your own thread, if you seriously want discussion, which I doubt, as like many others, you just want to promote your own views.
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I'll summarize my previous post with 3 major points: 1.) Day of His Fierce Anger is the last 45 days of the 7 years not just the Day when Jesus Returns (7 Bowl). 2.) Even though Jesus Returns at the 7th Bowl it would be correct to say it is a 7th Trumpet Return because all 45 days (1290 to 1335) are part of the 7th Trump. Churches like the Restored Church of God & United Church of God are actually correct saying He Returns at the 7th Trump. However, it is More Correct to say that the Last Trump is 45 days following the 7th Trumpet Blast. 3.) Finally, I never fully understood Revelation Chapter 14 until lately. Now I see that Israel's enemies who have besieged her for 3 1/2 years finally break through the walls of Jerusalem at the 7th Trumpet. This of course leads to the great slaughter of the inhabitants outside the city in the ditch 1600 furlongs long.
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Here are bible passages that confirm the fact that the Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath is some time before His glorious Return. His people, righteous Israel, from all 12 tribes will then return to the Land and live there in prosperity and peace. Eze 39:25-29
Isaiah 66:15 ...the Lord coming in fire [not on a cloud, in His glory, at this time],
...bringing retribution in anger [no mention of this in Rev 19:21]
Isa 66:16-17 The Lord will judge with fire and sword and test all mankind. All those unclean and wicked will die. [not just the army that will attack Jerusalem, later]
Isa 66:18 I will gather peoples of every tongue- they [only His people] will see My glory.
Isa 66:19 I shall put a sign on those survivors and will send them to declare My glory to all the nations. [before the Return – these are the 144,000 Rev 7 & 14, Isaiah 66:19]
Isa 66:20-21 From all the world, your fellow peoples will come, on every conveyance, like offerings to the Lord. Some will become My priests. [His people will rebuild the Temple and serve in it. 1 Peter 2:9]
Isa 66:22 As the New heavens and New earth that I am making will endure, so will your posterity endure.
Isa 66:23-24 All mankind will come to bow before Me. They will see what happened to those who rebelled against Me. [this will happen during the Millennium]
Jeremiah 30:3 ...both Israel and Judah will return to the Land. [but, first the Land is cleared and cleansed]
Jer. 30:4-7 The Lord says to Israel and Judah, “How awful is that Day, a cry of terror, anguish for Jacob. [ His people, judged and purged. Psalm 30:4-5, Eze 21:7]
Jer. 30:8-9 On that Day, I will save My people. [the terrible Day of the Lord/the sixth seal, coronal mass ejection from the sun. Isaiah 30:26, Isaiah 32:15-20]
Jer. 30:10-11 Do not despair, Israel, I will bring you back safely from afar. [Isa 51:3]
Deuteronomy 32:41-43 I will sharpen My flashing sword and take vengeance on those who hate Me. Rejoice, you heavens, He will avenge His people and cleanse their Land. Ref: REB some verses abridged.
There is a wonderful logic in the promise that those people who love the Lord will live in the Promised Land and all those prophecies to His people will be fulfilled. They will settle there and be “a light to all nations” as God originally intended. [Isa 60:3 over you, His glory will appear and nations will travel to your light]
Very soon, there will be worldwide, dramatic events, especially in the Middle East, which will completely change the area. His righteous people will go to Israel.
Ezekiel 20:34-38 ....even as I did in the wilderness of Egypt....Israel gathered, judged, cleansed and settled into the Land.
When the Lord Jesus returns, He will save those people from the attacking armies of the Anti Christ. The sudden and complete destruction of those armies as described in
Rev. 19:17-21, does not match the 6th seal– Rev 6:12-17, or the many other verses describing the Lord’s Day of wrath and vengeance. Amos 5:18-20, Joel 2:11
Then those Gentile people who have refused the “mark of the beast” will join them and live in the Land, [Isa 56:8] under King Jesus, for 1000 years.
Isaiah 66:15 ...the Lord coming in fire [not on a cloud, in His glory, at this time],
...bringing retribution in anger [no mention of this in Rev 19:21]
Isa 66:16-17 The Lord will judge with fire and sword and test all mankind. All those unclean and wicked will die. [not just the army that will attack Jerusalem, later]
Isa 66:18 I will gather peoples of every tongue- they [only His people] will see My glory.
Isa 66:19 I shall put a sign on those survivors and will send them to declare My glory to all the nations. [before the Return – these are the 144,000 Rev 7 & 14, Isaiah 66:19]
Isa 66:20-21 From all the world, your fellow peoples will come, on every conveyance, like offerings to the Lord. Some will become My priests. [His people will rebuild the Temple and serve in it. 1 Peter 2:9]
Isa 66:22 As the New heavens and New earth that I am making will endure, so will your posterity endure.
Isa 66:23-24 All mankind will come to bow before Me. They will see what happened to those who rebelled against Me. [this will happen during the Millennium]
Jeremiah 30:3 ...both Israel and Judah will return to the Land. [but, first the Land is cleared and cleansed]
Jer. 30:4-7 The Lord says to Israel and Judah, “How awful is that Day, a cry of terror, anguish for Jacob. [ His people, judged and purged. Psalm 30:4-5, Eze 21:7]
Jer. 30:8-9 On that Day, I will save My people. [the terrible Day of the Lord/the sixth seal, coronal mass ejection from the sun. Isaiah 30:26, Isaiah 32:15-20]
Jer. 30:10-11 Do not despair, Israel, I will bring you back safely from afar. [Isa 51:3]
Deuteronomy 32:41-43 I will sharpen My flashing sword and take vengeance on those who hate Me. Rejoice, you heavens, He will avenge His people and cleanse their Land. Ref: REB some verses abridged.
There is a wonderful logic in the promise that those people who love the Lord will live in the Promised Land and all those prophecies to His people will be fulfilled. They will settle there and be “a light to all nations” as God originally intended. [Isa 60:3 over you, His glory will appear and nations will travel to your light]
Very soon, there will be worldwide, dramatic events, especially in the Middle East, which will completely change the area. His righteous people will go to Israel.
Ezekiel 20:34-38 ....even as I did in the wilderness of Egypt....Israel gathered, judged, cleansed and settled into the Land.
When the Lord Jesus returns, He will save those people from the attacking armies of the Anti Christ. The sudden and complete destruction of those armies as described in
Rev. 19:17-21, does not match the 6th seal– Rev 6:12-17, or the many other verses describing the Lord’s Day of wrath and vengeance. Amos 5:18-20, Joel 2:11
Then those Gentile people who have refused the “mark of the beast” will join them and live in the Land, [Isa 56:8] under King Jesus, for 1000 years.
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