Do you think a Christian can get away with a sin in their life?

Ratioann

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Aha!
I found the verse no one wanted me to find (perhaps):

1 John 3:9
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Note that it says "does not" and "cannot sin".

Now I think if in the heat of the moment, you slip up, thats no big thing. Just be sure you pray about it. However, if you've been tempted to do something and give in to it... You have some trouble in your hands. For that you may want to look closely at your walk with God for safetys sake.
But these are my own opinions.
 
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Today at 02:33 AM Ratioann said this in Post #21 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=664471#post664471)

Aha!
I found the verse no one wanted me to find (perhaps):

1 John 3:9
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Note that it says "does not" and "cannot sin".

Now I think if in the heat of the moment, you slip up, thats no big thing. Just be sure you pray about it. However, if you've been tempted to do something and give in to it... You have some trouble in your hands. For that you may want to look closely at your walk with God for safetys sake.
But these are my own opinions.

I wonder why you would think no one wanted you to find this verse. This is a good verse and I am glad you found it. This is a very comforting verse when read and understood in context.

This text clearly speaks of our TWO natures. When people are Born Again, they are born spiritually, and not physically. And the Bible teaches that we then have a new nature. Old things are passed away and all things have become new. The new nature does not sin, because it is of the seed of God, a Holy, righteous, sinless God. Therefore, the new nature or the child of God cannot sin, because it is the product of the seed of a Sinless God.

But even though we have a new nature, as human beings, we still retain our old nature as long as we live this life on earth. And that nature can sin any time you allow it. That is our flesh. We are told that we must keep that old nature under control, or as Paul says we must crucify that flesh daily, or it will sin. We keep our old nature under control by making a choice. A choice to keep our focus, and not yield to our fleshly desires, or weaknesses.

So when we are born again, we have two natures, the old and the new, and which one we are walking in, or living/acting in, becomes evident by our actions.

I rarely do this, but for those intersted look at what Henry says about this and how he expresses it.

"1Jo 3:3-10 - The sons of God know that their Lord is of purer eyes than to allow any thing unholy and impure to dwell with him. It is the hope of hypocrites, not of the sons of God, that makes allowance for gratifying impure desires and lusts. May we be followers of him as his dear children, thus show our sense of his unspeakable mercy, and express that obedient, grateful, humble mind which becomes us. Sin is the rejecting the Divine law. In him, that is, in Christ, was no sin. All the sinless weaknesses that were consequences of the fall, he took; that is, all those infirmities of mind or body which subject man to suffering, and expose him to temptation. But our moral infirmities, our proneness to sin, he had not. He that abides in Christ, continues not in the practice of sin. Renouncing sin is the great proof of spiritual union with, continuance in, and saving knowledge of the Lord Christ. Beware of self-deceit. He that doeth righteousness is righteous, and to be a follower of Christ, shows an interest by faith in his obedience and sufferings. But a man cannot act like the devil, and at the same time be a disciple of Christ Jesus. Let us not serve or indulge what the Son of God came to destroy. To be born of God is to be inwardly renewed by the power of the Spirit of God. Renewing grace is an abiding principle. Religion is not an art, a matter of dexterity and skill, but a new nature. And the regenerate person cannot sin as he did before he was born of God, and as others do who are not born again. There is that light in his mind, which shows him the evil and malignity of sin. There is that bias upon his heart, which disposes him to loathe and hate sin. There is the spiritual principle that opposes sinful acts. And there is repentance for sin, if committed. It goes against him to sin with forethought. The children of God and the children of the devil have their distinct characters. The seed of the serpent are known by neglect of religion, and by their hating real Christians. He only is righteous before God, as a justified believer, who is taught and disposed to righteousness by the Holy Spirit. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil. May all professors of the gospel lay these truths to heart, and try themselves by them."
 
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Hi everyone,

Amy, have you think about telling this people what you see? Maybe they cannot see it and God is letting you see a problem and if I were those people, I would immensly appretiate you telling me. Now, in the bottom of their hearts they may know about their sin, but we humans lie to oursleves so many times we believe we're ok and are in peace with God, when we are really not.

Look guys, we have to have mercy with ourselves and specially with others. Have you guys been addicted to something, can I share a little bit of myself? I was addicted to inappropriate contentography. That's right I said it. You're the first people after my wife to know this! I watched cr*p everytime I could, and I felt horrible. I felt like I was truly under a spell, because it will take over me and literally i felt a rush (heart beating fast and my body temperature would actually go down). I hated it, but I loved it. Have you seen LOTR and gollum? I was gollum. After a while you hate yourself so bad you start destroying yourself.

(Romans 7:21-24) "So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?"

Now, I always prayed for that cr*p to dissapaear from my life and I knew God had the power to do it. I prayed every day and nothing. But one day after years of this I said "Lord please let my wife find out somehow" and a week later I stopped being so careful (not conciously) and she saw some cr*p on my browser's history and from then she got the initiative to "spy" me. And one day I was confronted. And I cryed for like an hour, but guys it was like a chain had been lifted from me. After that I've struggled and after a few skirmishes I must say God has done the work, although I keep sharp to not let satan bind me again with his lies, trying like fresh-ers said to root the problem back to my life.

I learned much from this. The first (Luke 6:37) "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Also,
(1 John 1:8-10) "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives."

Now there is a BIG difference between sinning and walking in the darkness:
(1 John 1:6-7) If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.

Walking in the darkness is PRETENDING to be a Christian, you know those that use the church as a business tool or a political platform, or false prophets that want to be famous and rich. Walking in Darkness is not accepting God because that way is easier. Walking in Darkness is thinking God wont see what we do.

You see, for all that time I knew God was watching. When I got in the computer to start looking cr*p I would automatically start singing in my head praise songs, and I honestly believe it was the Holy Ghost persuading me to drop what I was about to do. My friends GOD IS MERCIFUL. godownsme Don't feel guilt. Guilt is satan's chain. Now repentance, that comes from God. And he brought to light what I did in the shadows and now I'm FREE, ONLY because HE MADE ME FREE!

(Romans 6:22)
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Now to me that came through years. But I always knew God wanted me like this. I knew that he had the power. I always confessed to Him my sin, although I knew He knew about it (obviously) and I continued those self-hurting actions. I never doubted that His power would one day set me free at last!

I know this is a huge post but brothers, help each other, love one another. Salvation comes only through Faith. Faith that Jesus Christ died for us and He paid for our sins. The rest is the fight, a fight that shouldn't be an end to itself but rather one aspect (sanctification) that we must conquer to be truly servants of our heavenly father, the author and perfecter of our faith... Jesus.

God bless you,
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But even though we have a new nature, as human beings, we still retain our old nature as long as we live this life on earth. And that nature can sin any time you allow it. That is our flesh. We are told that we must keep that old nature under control, or as Paul says we must crucify that flesh daily, or it will sin. We keep our old nature under control by making a choice. A choice to keep our focus, and not yield to our fleshly desires, or weaknesses.

I see everyone here saying the same thing. We have freedom from the penalty of sin, but our only hope against the present power of sin is keeping focus on Jesus.

I like what Luigi had to say about WANTING to be caught. He was miserable in his sin. (as was I). Its so easy to stray. We need to keep each other accountable, and done so with love and mercy. God's word provides that correction as its living.

We are all saved by grace, but we will be judge for our walk as well. What will your gospel look like when Christ returns?

I'm not judging anyone here, but talking with myself. It is so easy to go out of God's will for your life. Prayer, daily confession, reading God's word, fellowshiping with God's people, because we need each other until the day we see Jesus again.

Praise you God for the gift of the Church
 
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18th February 2003 at 01:23 AM Amy said this in Post #1

I Another person I know lives like a pig. Laziness rules his life. Yet, he's a Christian, and he doesn't seem to think that there's anything wrong with his lifestyle. 


I can confess that I'm EXTREMELY untidy. In fact, I try a lot to keep things neat, but it seems as though they keep on messing themselves up all over again. I never looked at it as hiding in my sin because I never considered it a sin. Maybe this is something I should pray about?
 
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