Yeah, that is racist.
"If you're white and you go to this neighborhood the blacks will try to kill you".
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Yeah, that is racist.
"If you're white and you go to this neighborhood the blacks will try to kill you".
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I didn't say they were blacks...in the neighborhoods I'm referring to, they are. In others they might be latino, or even asian, or white. The point is that you go there...and you're white...you're in trouble. Maybe you lived some wonderful sheltered life far from reality, but I didn't.
Ironically, I found an example of this in the same website another poster linked to earlier...
http://politicalblindspot.com/white...ouse-in-misguided-retaliation-for-mike-brown/
Two white guys, savagely beaten, by twenty black guys....outside a restaurant in broad daylight. The one who was a former marine had to be airlifted out of there and place into a coma. They were told by a man it wasn't safe for whites to be there.
What should blow your mind is how no one saw anything. Even though this happened outside a restaurant in broad daylight, no one came forward to describe any perpetrators. So when a white cop shoots a black boy, suddenly everyone from there not only saw the whole thing but they know the cop was in the wrong. Yet, two white guys get beaten...one nearly to death...for being white in the wrong neighborhood and it's "Sorry, officers... I didn't see a thing."
Those two guys should've just mentioned that they had white privilege... so they can go anywhere and do anything. That probably would've saved them a beating.
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Wrong...they usually have a grace period to allow the officer to collect his thoughts and memories of the event so that emotions and adrenaline don't affect his ability or memory. I can't imagine any police department that would require an officer to file anything on a shooting incident the day of.
I've also never heard of a "weapon discharge report" but if you can show such a thing exists as part of every department, please do.
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You should read this...it's from another witness, one I know you can trust since he's black.
Ferguson Shooting Witness Claims He Saw The Entire Shooting... Does This Change The Case? » The Free Patriot
The difference is that he's from Ohio, so he doesn't have anything against the Ferguson police department.
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In terms of ethnic Black-Americans descending from Southern black slaves in the antebellum South, that would not be too difficult. Consider the surname. A person's surname (last name) as my former Africology professor pointed out, is a person's real name. In the sense that others judge or respect you and you familial lineage from that name. Kind of like the Kennedy's in the United States.
Or I'm half black and half white. My white side is German-American and they came over during the mid 1800s to the USA. Settling in the North, so far as I know in the Midwest like Wisconsin and Minnesota, they were not a part of the Southern antebellum culture or its culinary culture. And like the vast majority of German-Americans during the 1800s, they were abolitionists (though likely racist) and some of them fought for the Union as Wisconsin troops during the Civil War. But part of my German-American family coming originally from Trier, Germany, and ancient Roman settlement, had on my grandfathers side (my mother's maiden name) a ancient Roman surname.
The Germanic tribes often ended up as slaves of wealth ancient Romans. So, that might explain my mothers maiden name. Or... the people of the Germanic tribes having taken over ancient Rome may have become feudal aristocrats. Maybe that explains the surname.
But when you get to my surname, which my mother took from my Black-American father (traditionally women took the names of their husbands--a power issue), my surname, our surname, is either Welsh or Scots-Irish.
The Welsh and Scots-Irish both fall under the umbrella term, in the United States, of "Anglo-Saxons."
"Scots-Irish" are essentially people of Scottish descent who along with the Angl-Saxon of England, came from Scotland and colonized Northern Ireland. Treating the indigenous Irish (Catholic) population of Northern Ireland as serfs.
The Scots-Irish came to the USA largely as middle-class people (just like the Western European Jews much later, in contrast to their Eastern European Jewish arrivals who came to the USA poor, became prize fighters, bootleggers, and gangsters beside the Italian/Sicilians--and Jewish-Americans from Western Europe despised Eastern European Jews).
The Scots-Irish were mainly Protestants and often times college educated. They despised the Irish (almost always Catholic) that came to the USA uneducated, poor, dressed in tattered clothing. And the Scots-Irish certainly had a presence in the U.S. South, owning quite a number of Southern slave plantations. The KKK in fact draws upon Celtic themes/symbols, from their Scots-Irish background, in promoting their White Pride.
In fact, in Northern Ireland to this very day, some of the people of the Protestant (Scots-Irish essentially, but they're called "Irish") Orange, will spray paint Swastikas and White Pride symbols in Catholic Irish neighborhoods. If I remember correctly they even have a chapter of the KKK in Protestant Northern Ireland (But I might be remembering incorrectly about that).
When the Irish came to the United States they had a hard time. None of the Anglo-Saxon considered them white. Even people like the Kennedy's were foreign to the old aristocratic wealth of the Anglo-Saxon elite in the Northern Eastern Coast states. You found the same thing with other so-called "ethnic whites" like the Germans, Poles, Sicilians and so on. They were not "white" to the Anglo-Saxon. Except maybe the Germans but they didn't originally embrace the Germans even though Anglo-Saxons were part of the original Germanic tribes.
Long story short is that all of these "ethnic whites" in the United States eventually became "white," allowed entrance into mainstream "white" culture of the USA. This happened by the 1970s to 1980s for both the Italian/Sicilians and Irish.
Black-Americans were never allowed that. To some degree it's happening now among the younger Black-American generations raised in predominately white American neighborhoods. These young blacks sound "white" when they talk and many of their white peers accept them among them as equals, as friends.
But decades, or was it a century or close to a century? of Jim Crow segregation isolated Black-Americans physically in communities, housing patterns.
Jim Crow is as important as the slavery that ended in the 1800s.
The Irish experience in Ireland, in Northern Ireland, has some similarities to the Black-American experience. However, the Irish experience within the United States is not really historically comparable to the Black-American experience due to the racial caste system that was put in place throughout all the Americas.
India is not the only nation to have had a caste system. The United States (like Latin American nations too) had a racial caste system.
Due to that caste system you really don't see any white "ghettos" in urban metropolitan areas today. They exist in rural areas of the U.S. though, as in the Ozarks and throughout Appalachia.
In metropolitan urban areas poor whites tend to live in predominately Latino or black neighborhoods. Because poor white neighborhoods are virtually non-existent in modern city USA. And white people raised in these areas can still count on their white phenotype to help them gain access to the jobs and money sectors black males have an extremely hard time accessing.
Or let me put it this way... my brother (mulatto) married to a white woman. Originally, my brother had a job history, and a college degree, whereas originally his wife had no job history (from being on welfare--her previous child had a white father) and I think only a GED. He was almost broken by the fact, when applying for jobs, he was getting no call backs for interviews, but his wife was getting a slew of calls for interviews.
Today she's close to getting her bachelor degree and has a long job record. My brother has two master degrees now and works for the public schools as a teacher. But the point is race matters in a racial caste system. Zip code can work to indicate a persons race in the United States too.
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That's not a firearms discharge report. that's a (very) basic incident report/record that tells next to nothing.
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His account differs slightly but not too much from the other numerous corroborating reports. Not surprising to see differences here and there. I note your source left out the bit where the witness himself said that it was straight up murder......
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Oh dear, you don't seem to be very knowledgeable. A weapon/firarm discharge report is required to be filed by an officer each and every time they discharge their weapon outside of the firing range. Especially when their discharges are multiple and result in a death.
I'm not sure how you don't know that.
Here's a few examples of what such a report would look like, pulled randomly from the heaps of them available on the internet:
http://kcmo.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/12/Form5636.DischargeofFirearm.pdf
https://www.idfpr.com/renewals/apply/forms/f1350de.pdf
https://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/document/1046698/fetc_form_49_incident_report_pdf
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It's different in aspects that matter. Unfortunately, the witness isn't in a position to judge whether it was "straight up murder" or not...just like you.
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Keep it up. The more white people say it the better!!
Tell me - what privileges do you think I've "enjoyed" because I'm white? Please, dear.
I actually was told that SEVERAL times, by our black neighbors, when I lived in Detroit.
It's not racist, it's a statement of FACT. There are places in Detroit where being white can get you killed.
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I do love how so many white people are so determined to argue that racism is no longer an issue. It is still an issue - a huge one. This is just an example of that.
You know, a year or so ago I was roaming around a Walmart with a friend of mine from art school, who happens to be black. We noticed a security guard was following us. I kind of laughed and mumbled to my friend like "do we really look that dangerous?" And he said "you don't, but I do look that black". I realized how right he was when we split up so he could use the bathroom and I wasn't the one the guard followed. Only a few months later, that same friend was arrested for "breaking in" to a home. That home was his aunt's, who he was staying with during spring break, and he had a key. Apparently he looked suspicious because he stood around out front for fifteen minutes while he was smoking before entering. He has also been stopped by police several times in NYC.
He and I are the same. We both grew up in New Jersey, we went to similar schools, the same church. We took the same classes in college, even worked in the same diner for a while. But none of this would have happened to me. I have never been followed by security in a store, I have never been arrested for just apparently looking suspicious, I have never been randomly stopped by police. I will never be shot by a police officer when retrieving my license and registration from my car after they have asked me to. I will never be executed while unarmed and surrendering. Because I'm white. And that's the only reason.
And until we ALL recognize that this is happening, it is a real problem, nothing is going to change.
You know, a year or so ago I was roaming around a Walmart with a friend of mine from art school, who happens to be black. We noticed a security guard was following us. I kind of laughed and mumbled to my friend like "do we really look that dangerous?" And he said "you don't, but I do look that black". I realized how right he was when we split up so he could use the bathroom and I wasn't the one the guard followed. Only a few months later, that same friend was arrested for "breaking in" to a home. That home was his aunt's, who he was staying with during spring break, and he had a key. Apparently he looked suspicious because he stood around out front for fifteen minutes while he was smoking before entering. He has also been stopped by police several times in NYC.
He and I are the same. We both grew up in New Jersey, we went to similar schools, the same church. We took the same classes in college, even worked in the same diner for a while. But none of this would have happened to me. I have never been followed by security in a store, I have never been arrested for just apparently looking suspicious, I have never been randomly stopped by police. I will never be shot by a police officer when retrieving my license and registration from my car after they have asked me to. I will never be executed while unarmed and surrendering. Because I'm white. And that's the only reason.
And until we ALL recognize that this is happening, it is a real problem, nothing is going to change.
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No one is saying racism doesn't exist. That's a strawman argument.
I'm arguing, actually, that I've faced racism from black people.
My brother and sister in law faced IMMENSE racism when they got married - from other blacks, mainly women. Their children were taunted in school - by other black children.
Oh yes, there's still racism, but I think you're pointing fingers at the wrong people.
I'm arguing, actually, that I've faced racism from black people.
My brother and sister in law faced IMMENSE racism when they got married - from other blacks, mainly women. Their children were taunted in school - by other black children.
Oh yes, there's still racism, but I think you're pointing fingers at the wrong people.
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Yep. I seriously believe that. I don't have any opportunities that a black person doesn't. A black person, however, has several opportunities that I don't.
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Indeed, and I am shocked at the level of racism still present in America. Sure, we have racism in this country, but it's far less of a big deal than in the States. Always vexed me how you guys can be so patriotic when you have so many problems in your country on a scale that don't exist in other Western nations (and huge levels of racism are just one of them).
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How about the scholarships that are appointed only for minorities?
How about affirmative action? (My SIL hates affirmative action because of the snide comments she gets about her job: "You realize that if it weren't for affirmative action you wouldn't have your job, right?" as if she didn't work her butt off in school and earn two degrees and a masters degree.
How about the easy excuse "it's because I'm black"? If I get pulled over for speeding and I misbehave with the cop and I get in trouble for it, I cant say "this is because I'm black". Golly, I have to actually OWN my actions! :o
I learned a long time ago about the benefits minorities have. I lost a scholarship in high school to another girl who was a minority who had a substantially lower GPA than I did. She ultimately turned the scholarship down herself because the message that was delivered to her basically was that their standards were lower for her.
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I fail to understand nothing, but thanks for playing. What I posted is that it doesn't matter where someone came from, there is no excuse for people to use their circumstances (whoever they are) to break the law. So, your response wasn't one where you even attempted to read or understand what I was actually saying. From your post it seems that you're advocating/saying that it's okay to break the law if someone is from a minority group. That's actually pretty insulting to the black community and other minority groups. Don't pretend like you know what it's like to be black unless you are.
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Because there aren't a whole heap of scholarships only appointed to white people, or very rarely to PoC.
First of all, that's horrible. She could have those people fired for making those kinds of comments. But affirmative action is needed for both PoC and women alike. It might seem unfair when some companies use a quota system etc, but it has proven to be beneficial in the long run time and time again. The workforce is absolutely dominated by white men, this needs to change.
You're being purposefully ignorant if you believe black people actually get away with crime because they are black. Sometimes people will say that (I watch Cops, right) but you're completely disregarding the fact that so many PoC are targeted by law enforcement just because they are PoC. And I'm going to hazard a guess and say you've never feared for your life when you've been pulled over for a traffic infringement (or if that's never happened to you, you wouldn't be if it did).
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