50 Reasons Muhammad Was Not a Prophet

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There is no relationship between the Hebrew word Allah and the Aramaic word Allah. Allah in Hebrew means "oak." The word Allah in Aramaic and Arabic is a contraction of the word "Alilah." Al/il/ah means, "The god ascends." "IL" means "god." IL for god is ancient Hebrew and Aramaic. Modern Hebrew changed IL to EL for god.
 
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my cat's breath smells like cat food.
 
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I didn't click the link but I'm totally going to forward this to ISIS high command. I bet they'll be all like, "Yo, sorry!". Someone tell President Obama to stand down, 'cause it's all good.

my cat's breath smells like cat food.

Do you have anything intelligent to say?
 
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Well that website is good for a laugh, I suppose.

Your second post is utterly irrelevant: Allah is an Arabic word not Hebrew and in Arabic it does mean God, referring specifically to the Abrahamic god.

Shall we now have a thread about how non-trinitarian messianics are less heretical to Islam than to either Judaism or Christianity. That might be fun.
 
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Well that website is good for a laugh, I suppose.

Your second post is utterly irrelevant: Allah is an Arabic word not Hebrew and in Arabic it does mean God, referring specifically to the Abrahamic god.

Shall we now have a thread about how non-trinitarian messianics are less heretical to Islam than to either Judaism or Christianity. That might be fun.
There was a time when the Arabs Knew the God of Abraham as Yahwah.

Mohammad possibly said: You already believe Alilah is a god, why not believe he is the only god.

Chemosh was the god of war and the national god of the Moabites. He is equivalent to the Babylonian Shamash.

Chemosh, an ancient West Semitic deity, revered by the Moabites as their supreme god.

Others view Chemosh as the god of the neitherworld on the basis of an Akkadian god-list which identified him with the god Nergal.

Support for this identification may be found in Ugaritic texts. Encyclopedia Judiaca Vol. 5, Col. 390.



THE MOABITE STONE
King Mesha, 930 BC.

Moabite Stone

I am Mesha, son of Kemosh melek, the king of Moab, the Dibonite. My father was king over Moab for thirty years, and I became king after my father.

And I made this high place for Kemosh in Qarhar . . . because of the deliverance of Mesha, and because he has saved me from all the kings and because he caused me to see [my desire] upon all who hated me. Omri, king of Israel -- he oppressed Moab many days, because Chemosh was angry with his land.

And his son succeeded him, and he also said I will oppress Moab. In my day he spoke according to this word, but I saw my desire upon him and upon his house, and Israel utterly perished forever.

Now Omri had possessed all the land of Medeba and dwelt in it his days and half the days of his son, forty years, but Chemosh restored it in my day. And I built Baal-meon and I made in it the reservoir and I built Kiryathaim. And the men of Gad had dwelt in the land of Ataroth from of old and the king of Israel had built for himself Ataroth. And I foutht against the city and took it, and I slew all the people of the city, a sight pleasing to Chemosh and to Moab.

And I brought back from there the altar-hearth of Duda and I dragged it before Chemosh in Kiryoth. And I caused to dwell in it the men of Sharon and the men of Meharoth (?).

And Chemosh said to me: "Go take Nebo against Israel"; and I went by night and fought against it from break of dawn till noon, and I took it and slew all, seven thousand men and boys, women and girls, and I devoted it to Ashtar-Chemosh.

And I took from there the altar-hearths of Yahwah, and I dragged them before Chemosh. And the king of Israel built Jabaz and dwelt in it while he fought with me and Chemosh drove him out from before me. And I took from Moab two hundred men, all its chiefs, and I led them against Jahaz and took it to add unto Dibon.

And I built Qarhar, the wall of the forests and the wall of the hill; and I built its gates and I built its towers, and I built the kings house, and I made the sluices for the reservoir of water in the midst of the city.

And there was no cistern in the midst of the city, in Qarhar; and I said to all the people: "Make you each a cistern in his house;" and I cut the cuttings for Qarhar with the help of the prisoners of Israel. I built Aroer and I made the highway by the Arnon. And I built Beth-bamoth, for it had been destroyed. And I built Bezer, for it was in ruins....(Chi) of Dibon wer fifty, for all Dibon was obedient. And I ruled. And I ruled a hundred....in the cities which I had added to the land. And I built [Mede]ba dnd Beth-diblathan. And [as for] Beth-baal-meon, there I placed sheep-raisers....sheep of the land... And [as for] Horonaim there dwelt in it....and.....Chemosh said unto me: "Go down, fight against Horonaim," and I went down and....Chemosh in my day, and from there.....and I.......

Chemosh was the god of war and the national god of the Moabites. He is equivalent to the Babylonian Shamash.
Chemosh was the national deity of the Moabites (Numbers 21:29; Jeremiah 47:7,13,46). In Judges 11:24 he was also the god of the Ammonites. Solomon introduced Chemosh but later Josiah abolished the worship of Chemosh at Jerusalem (1 Kings 11:7; 2 Kings 23:13).

Chemosh, was the ancient West Semitic deity, revered by the Moabites as their supreme god. The famous Moabite Stone, written by Mesha, a 9th-century-bc king of Moab, Chemosh received prominent mention as the deity who brought victory to the Moabites in their battle against the Israelites. In those days the Arabs knew the name of God as Yahwah, but because Yahwah would not curse the Jews for the Arab people; so the name of Yahwah was cursed and never to be spoken. And that is why Mohammad did not know the name of the God of Abraham. That proves that Mohammad was not a prophet of God.
 
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There is no relationship between the Hebrew word Allah and the Aramaic word Allah. Allah in Hebrew means "oak." The word Allah in Aramaic and Arabic is a contraction of the word "Alilah." Al/il/ah means, "The god ascends." "IL" means "god." IL for god is ancient Hebrew and Aramaic. Modern Hebrew changed IL to EL for god.

I'm going to copy a post I recently made on a different Forum

In Islam, Ilah means God, Allah, is gods name.

Yes, we believe it is God(swt)'s name but as there are no capital letters in Arabic it is also used to mean God (Capital G) In the Arabic language among non-Muslim Arabs it means God( Capital G)

From the KJV Arabic Translation, Genesis 1.

I circled Allah

I apologize for the sloppy Circling. Having a touch of Palsy today and can not control the mouse. this was my third try and I gave up.


BibleAllah.jpg%7Eoriginal

SOURCE

The Forum I posted that on I use my usual Forum name Woodrow LI. I use woodrowx2 here because WoodrowLI was taken when I joined here.
 
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Ilah in arabic means god.Allah is a name given to chief of arab pantheon of gods.

Even the quranic verse uses No Ilah but Allah several times.

The closest sounding hebrew word אַלָּה al-law means piece(s) of wood(Oak).

Here is a dictionary link .
Strong's Number 427 Hebrew Dictionary of the Old Testament Online Bible with Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, Brown Driver Briggs Lexicon, Etymology, Translations Definitions Meanings & Key Word Studies - Lexiconcordance.com
 
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Ilah in arabic means god.Allah is a name given to chief of arab pantheon of gods.
Who historically became worshipped as the one, true and only Abrahamic god.
Judaism is no different, in which Jesus himself believed.
Even the word for God in the opening verses of Genesis, is Elohim: the plural of El (god)
Even the quranic verse uses No Ilah but Allah several times.
The difference between a god or gods, and God.
The closest sounding hebrew word אַלָּה al-law means piece(s) of wood(Oak).
So what? While certainly related via sanskrit, they are not the same language. There is no reasonable expectation that any 2 similar words of your choice be the same.
 
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Yes, when they were Jews.

I'd probably dispute that a bit. I do think the Arabs were a distinct people apart from Jews. Certainly there's some intermarriage and the like there, but I doubt all Arabs derive from Jewish roots and Jews are usually not considered Arabs.
 
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I'd probably dispute that a bit. I do think the Arabs were a distinct people apart from Jews. Certainly there's some intermarriage and the like there, but I doubt all Arabs derive from Jewish roots and Jews are usually not considered Arabs.

And yet genetically... they are. Isn't the distinction more cultural than racial?
I agree, not all Arabs were Jewish before Islam. Some Jewish, some were Christian (not many I don't suppose) and some were Pagan (being tribespeople in the desert)

It is only those who were Jewish that knew God as Yahweh, although I feel too much is made of that particular name.
 
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And yet genetically... they are. Isn't the distinction more cultural than racial?
I agree, not all Arabs were Jewish before Islam. Some Jewish, some were Christian and some were Pagan.

Genetically we're close, yes, but I do mean culture. It's the same general region of the world and there has been intermarriage, but I do believe there were (at least) two distinct people.
 
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It is only those who were Jewish that knew God as Yahweh, although I feel too much is made of that particular name.

First one would need to prove that the name is supposed to be pronounced that way for me to know if Jews knew that name. ;)

There are a ton of titles and names of HaShem in the text though. I won't make decisions on the validity of religious claims if they know or don't know the "magic word" so to speak.
 
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I thought this was an interesting website so I am posting a link: Answering Muslims: 50 Reasons Muhammad Was Not a Prophet

Personally...... I am a Christian/ Messianic Gentile who is wide open to the theory that the Prophet Muhammad, (peace be upon him) had one of those near death experiences or out of the body experiences in which he met the God of Abraham/ YHWH/ HaShem......... The Patriarch Moses/ Moshe prayed something to the effect of....."Oh that they all were prophets"...... and I strongly suspect that this wish by Moses is being fulfilled in our time period as more and more people meet the Being of Light of NDE fame...... review their lives with H-m..... which I personally believe was explained by Baruch the scribe and friend of Jeremiah.


Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, Prophecy Of Baruch Chapter 6

[6] "For my angel is with you: And I myself will demand an account of your souls."


Any of these near death experience accounts could be misunderstood or exaggerated. I suppose I could take the NDE of former atheist Howard Storm and turn it into a new religion................ and squabble with everybody in sight about this new religion......... but......... perhaps when the final Elijah comes along he will explain to us that the conflict that all G-d's people face at this time... is whether or not the Being of Light of NDE fame is the G-d of Abraham or a former Covering Cherub posing as G-d?????!


This poll gives a good idea of how divided the Christian community is on this question at this time......


http://www.christianforums.com/t7647330/

Do you believe that some NDE accounts fit with scripture?

Yes, I believe that some NDE accounts are genuine meetings with the Messiah or angels. 7 ...............29.17%

Maybe but perhaps some NDE accounts are of a meeting with Satan?! 6 ..................................25.00%

No, the near death experience accounts are mostly false and misleading. 9 ..................................37.50%

I don't know enough about this subject yet to express an opinion?! 3 ..................................12.50%

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 24. You have already voted on this poll
 
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