Would you submit to your husband?

BigGameJames · Aug 31, 2014

This question is for the women. Please only answer if you are female.

There's a tactful way that men can get their women to submit to their authority without being overt with the dominance. Other some men are just naturally dominant overtly.

But if your man wasn't either of these 2 types of men, would you submit to his authority?

Jupiter Drops · Aug 31, 2014

Love is submission.

Nanopants · Aug 31, 2014

Love kicks the crap out of anyone who would harm your family.

Neve · Aug 31, 2014

If you define "submit" as respect, then yes.

If you define "submit" as taking all orders unquestioned, then no.

To me, I see that particular passage regarding submission as a passage on spousal respect and love. However, I know it's been used as a vehicle of control and dominance over the wife. This has been accomplished by ignoring significant parts of the passage, which I've pasted in full below.

Ephesians 5:22-33 - New International Version (NIV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word,
27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church—
30 for we are members of his body.
31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[b]
32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.
33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

redblue22 · Aug 31, 2014

what a fun marriage. OBEY!!!

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Messy · Aug 31, 2014

BigGameJames said:
This question is for the women. Please only answer if you are female.

There's a tactful way that men can get their women to submit to their authority without being overt with the dominance. Other some men are just naturally dominant overtly.

But if your man wasn't either of these 2 types of men, would you submit to his authority?

I submitted to my first ex and he was naturally dominant. I still don't have problems to do what he says, because God tells me to. Then I had someone who said he was emancipated, LOL, the first one even helped me with the housekeeping, he turned out to be much more dominant and I didn't submit, because that was not the arrangement we made and if someone lives like a kid and is too lazy to work, yet expects that he can decide that my kids don't get toys, 'cause he wants 'em from what I earn, I thought: better go back to your mom, which made me think: why did I even marry him if God tells you to submit and I don't even respect him? So I believe in submitting and that's the reason I won't ever marry again.

rich1540 · Aug 31, 2014

One flesh in Jesus.

That implies equality.

My mother was always angry with my father for not allowing her to return to her trainee nurse role after they married. My father was deeply regretful by the time he reached his forties that he didn't spend most of his time working to pay off an overly ambitous morgage and not with us kids. By that time they had split but under the same roof. The trigger was when my mother got pregnant when she was 42. She'd had fallopian tubal litigation 18 months earlier. I remember the argument. Mother: I'm pregnant. father: no your not. Etc etc Same with male Dr who performed the operation. Dr =impossible. She gave birth to a boy who is now 40, after refusing an abortion.

My mother was.far smarter and tougher than my father. My mother clearly disliked the mother/housekeeper role and we kids suffered for it. My father was far more sensitive and would have made a better homemaker. They both came from poor broken families and married far too early as a result.

Women. Don't fall for this patriarchal antiquity.

Men. Listen to your wives.

PetLuv · Aug 31, 2014

You can't make someone do something.

Not with trickery or coercion.

If you deserve respect you will get it IF you are around the right people.

Lord Of The Forest · Aug 31, 2014

Blast! I voted before I read the thread.

Now there would be an interesting social experiment for CF... :eheh:

Neve · Aug 31, 2014

Lord Of The Forest said:
Blast! I voted before I read the thread.

Now there would be an interesting social experiment for CF...

I didn't vote.

rich1540 · Aug 31, 2014

I didn't vote. I spoke on behalf of my mother. God bless her recalcitrant soul.

She won't be happy when i tell her I've regained my faith. I know she'd rather i was gay, than a Christian or quasi Christian.

RobertMerton · Aug 31, 2014

well I just saw the poll results, and it doesn't surprise me to be honest.
heh.

redblue22 · Aug 31, 2014

I don't understand the question or the results.

Paulie079 · Aug 31, 2014

redblue22 said:
I don't understand the question or the results.

Yeah, I'm not entirely comfortable with the question either, especially because people's definition of what submission is tends to be all over the board. Also, I'm suspicious of what the OP intends to do with the results and responses.

But for the record, I believe the submission the Bible calls wives to does not involve domineering oppression or forced, begrudging obedience.

pyramid33 · Aug 31, 2014

I prefer a woman that will only submit to a good husband, not an evil one.

If you meet a person with a double tongue, who prefer's anti Bible, leave them, they hate you and only want to eliminate you.

Kissing butt won't help in the judgement day.

LadyOfMystery · Aug 31, 2014

Neve said:
If you define "submit" as respect, then yes.

If you define "submit" as taking all orders unquestioned, then no.

To me, I see that particular passage regarding submission as a passage on spousal respect and love. However, I know it's been used as a vehicle of control and dominance over the wife. This has been accomplished by ignoring significant parts of the passage, which I've pasted in full below.

Ephesians 5:22-33 - New International Version (NIV)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word,
27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church—
30 for we are members of his body.
31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[b]
32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.
33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

This. Neve said it all for me. :satisfied:

Messy · Aug 31, 2014

If a man already has a natural dominance and a Godly character it's easier to submit. God wants wives to submit and sometimes it ain't no fun, because even the most christian man is not like Jesus and can be controlling and selfish and then you can't say: Now I don't do it. My mother Always did it, although my father used to be terrible, controlling, mocking her belief, she couldn't go to church. He changed through her obedience. But not something I'm longing for, LOL.

SnowyMacie · Aug 31, 2014

As Jupiter said, Love itself is submissive.

I honestly feel like what the OP is really asking is "Will you obey your husband?".

It's not love to manipulate, or "tactically get (her) to submit without being overly dominant" your wife into submission, whatever you think that looks like.

AztecSDSU · Aug 31, 2014

Just one of the many areas that is going to create weirdness for modern people if you can't accept that the Bible contains elements of the cultures that produced it and may not completely apply to modern people.

KitKatMatt · Aug 31, 2014

I don't submit to anyone in any relationship. We are all on equal footing, or it just doesn't work.

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