Understand, I'm not against you.
I have no idea what "dole" mean's. And I'm certainly not against family or people.
Are you Nith, for or against lying?
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Is it okay to lie?
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Understand, I'm not against you.
I have no idea what "dole" mean's. And I'm certainly not against family or people.
Are you Nith, for or against lying?
David,s sin was against God.
At the time David had worked out a way to get Bat Sheba, and still be within the law and customs, so for him he was in the clear.
When the prohpet Natan came and told him a story, the penny dropped and he admitted, and repented, though forgiven it haunted him the rest of his Life.
He had missused his authority and had become legalistic.
Like, how far can I go, and still be within the law.
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I'm so against David's continual sin and his wife's continual sin. Very bad.
David certainly wasn't in the clear for murdering and adultery and neither was she.
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He was no where near legalistic. Legalistic would have been straight shooting. He chose to serve sin.
Don't forget, legalistic means doing good.
Lawless means misuse of authority.
Don't be afraid, truth will set free.
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I admire you're honesty. Satan is the maker of all lie's.
(give credit where credit is due).
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The definition of a lie is debated, but if we take a lie to mean saying something in total contradiction to what we know to be true, I would say the answer is it depends.
If someone comes to your house wanting to kill a member of your family and you lie that they aren't in, that's told to save someone's life. So I think it's unfair and unwise to put down deontological rules for lying, because for me motive should be the consideration for whether or not it's warranted. What's the intent?
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I think its wrong to lie. But everyone has told a lie at least once in their life.
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I accidentally clicked that it was okay. I personally believe that it's wrong, but it's forgivable most of the time.
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I have observed many on CF who lie quite often, so it is very normal behavior for them.
Excessive lying, or lying when it is so obvious to others, is likely a symptom of a person who is either quite desperate, or has an issue with a personality disorder or other psychological issue.
There are also some who state things that are completely untrue, but actually have convinced themselves they are true and according to themselves, they aren't really lying. Neither lying intentionally, nor convincing yourself falsehoods are true, are very good traits to have.
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The problem is that the question is not the simple "yes/no" question as it is presented.
It depends upon the situation, as is being noted by other posters.
There are situations where lying would not be okay and there are situations where lying would be the moral thing to do.
And it's not at all hard to imagine hypothetical situations for both either.
It depends upon the situation, as is being noted by other posters.
There are situations where lying would not be okay and there are situations where lying would be the moral thing to do.
And it's not at all hard to imagine hypothetical situations for both either.
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So if an SS officers asks you if there are jews in your house while there are jews in your house, then you will simply tell the SS officer where they are, knowing it would result in their certain cruel deaths?
And you would consider that "the right thing to do"?
Remind me never to trust you with my life.
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Since the poll was set up to be either one or the other, I selected that it is not OK to lie. Reason being, under ordinary circumstances it is not. But any time a question like this comes up, there is always the moral dilemma of what to do in extreme circumstances. Understand that most circumstances are not extreme. If extreme circumstances were ordinary, they wouldn't be called extreme, would they?
SS knocks on my door, and the Jews I'm hiding in my basement are in danger if I speak honestly. I'm going to say the noise they just heard is my dogs. They did call Jews "dogs" didn't they? I'd also allow for that possibility in advance by making sure I really do HAVE some of the canine-woof-woof variety of "dogs." The bigger and noisier, the better.
Someone actually did commit a crime and wants me to cover for them with a false alibi so they don't go to jail for it? Not gonna happen, not even if it's my husband asking me to lie for him.
Someone has just confided in me that they are planning suicide, and asked me not to tell the leader of the support group we're both in. I won't tell the leader. I will instead speak to the leader's clipboard or some other object in the room.
And what about that common trap of "do I look fat in this?"
"Yes, you look like a beached whale," may be my honest opinion, but I'm not going to say that. Nor will I lie and say something is flattering when it isn't. My technique would be to say nothing about the outfit in question, but suggest something else instead.
SS knocks on my door, and the Jews I'm hiding in my basement are in danger if I speak honestly. I'm going to say the noise they just heard is my dogs. They did call Jews "dogs" didn't they? I'd also allow for that possibility in advance by making sure I really do HAVE some of the canine-woof-woof variety of "dogs." The bigger and noisier, the better.
Someone actually did commit a crime and wants me to cover for them with a false alibi so they don't go to jail for it? Not gonna happen, not even if it's my husband asking me to lie for him.
Someone has just confided in me that they are planning suicide, and asked me not to tell the leader of the support group we're both in. I won't tell the leader. I will instead speak to the leader's clipboard or some other object in the room.
And what about that common trap of "do I look fat in this?"
"Yes, you look like a beached whale," may be my honest opinion, but I'm not going to say that. Nor will I lie and say something is flattering when it isn't. My technique would be to say nothing about the outfit in question, but suggest something else instead.
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It is never okay to lie. The Bible says specifically in the 10 commandments 'Thou shalt not lie'.
It doesn't get any clearer than that.
It doesn't get any clearer than that.
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