Recent Fulfilled Mormon Prophecies

bbbbbbb said:

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what was the last major event which came to pass which had been predicted by a Mormon prophet?

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Ironhold said:

Define "major event".

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bbbbbbb said:

An event of worldwide consequence. That could include natural disasters, acts of God, political and governmental events (like who will win the next Presidential election), or terrorist events. It would surely have helped folks in New York City if your prophet, seer, and revelator, had warned them before 9/11/01.

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bbbbbbb said:

Of course not, but that does not stop him from turning the tables on you and accusing you of making an entirely absurd and unreasonable request.

Evidence, smevidence. That stuff doesn't matter in the least.

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Ran77 said:

This is just more twisting.

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Ran77 said:

Based on the comments in this thread it appears that a prophe is expected to participate in a psychic hotline, carnival show where he publically broadcasts to the world that he has received a vision from God and detailing an exact sequent of events that will happen on a specific timetable. Howeve, I am sure all of the LDS on the forum have experienced prophecy in our lives, in ourslelv, from our local leaders, and from our prophet. That is why the attacks against our beliefs about this topic fail to effect us.

It does me no good to spend time discussing the topic when whatever I say is going to be twisted around to mean something completely different. People who want to find fault with our beliefs will do so. Even Jesus had detactors that found fault with his teachings.

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BigDaddy4 said:

Even Jesus gave proof of his claims when he said "It is written.." and other times when he quoted OT scripture.

A simple request was made for you to provide evidence for your claim. You either don't have such evidence or you choose not to provide it. Either way, your post is dishonest and deflects the blame.

The only twisting is done by you.

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Ran77 said:

Attacking my honesty will not change the facts. It really only serves to demonstrate how accurate I was when I stated that it would do me no good to discuss the topic or provide evidence to our critics. If you are hoping to goad me into an argument - that won't work.

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bbbbbbb said:

I have no idea as to why you persist in posting on this thread since, by your own testimony, you will not (and I believe cannot) address the OP in any semblance of a reasonable manner.

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bbbbbbb said:

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what was the last major event which came to pass which had been predicted by a Mormon prophet?

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drstevej said:

OP:


Sounds like a fair question to me.

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bbbbbbb said:

I have no idea as to why you persist in posting on this thread since, by your own testimony, you will not (and I believe cannot) address the OP in any semblance of a reasonable manner. It leaves myself and the rest of us non-LDS utterly nonplussed concerning the claim made by your church concerning your Prophet, Seer, and Revelator.

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Ran77 said:

It's unfortunate that, based on your comment here, you are unable to see the points that I have made in relation to the topic. Even if a person does not agree with them they should be able to at least see and understand those points.

Mark 8: 11-12

11. And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with him, seeking of him a sign from heaven, tempting him.

12. And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.


John 2: 18-21

18. Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

19. Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21. But he spake of the temple of his body.


I especially like this last set of verses because it shows that those who doubted Jesus were not able to understand signs (prophecy) even when it came about. They were too fixed on how they thought that prophecy was to come about that they missed it when it really happened.

This thread appears to want a big psychic-hotline show in order to prove that the prophet receives revelation from God, but the LDS have plenty of examples of that principle in our lives to not be bothered by the accusations. We see the spirit of prophecy in action frequently and it isn't a carnival show.

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Ran77 said:

Attacking my honesty will not change the facts. It really only serves to demonstrate how accurate I was when I stated that it would do me no good to discuss the topic or provide evidence to our critics. If you are hoping to goad me into an argument - that won't work.

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BigDaddy4 said:

Requesting evidence for a claim that YOU made is not attacking your honesty. You show your dishonesty all on your own by refusing to back up your claim and then try to blame me for twisting your words.

I'm not trying to goad you, just get you to back up your claim. Or retract it if you like.

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bbbbbbb said:

I can easily understand if they were simply honest and admitted the truth - that for over 150 years no Mormon prophet has even attempted to foretell the future for the benefit of humanity. I would also understand it if they had the moral rectitude to retract that statement from the description of the office of Prophet. I would even understand it if they changed the title from Prophet, Seer, and Revelator to President.

What I don't understand is their intransigence in the face of the overwhelming lack of evidence that their Prophet actually can prophesy.

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IchoozJC said:

Can someone be considered a singer, but have never sung?

Can someone be considered a dancer, but have never danced?

Can someone be considered an artist, yet have never created art?

How then can someone be a prophet who has never prophesied?

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Ironhold said:

If you'll recall, a pretty good chunk of the prophesying in the Bible consisted of people telling folks that God was mad at them and that they needed to repent.

For example, the entire book of Jonah boiled down to "God told Jonah to warn others to repent, but Jonah tried to ignore the call because he didn't like the people he was called to minister to."

The big, flashy "In the year two thousaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand..." stuff was only a small percentage of it, and some prophets - like Jonah - were never called to give such prophecies to begin with.

So it's rather hypocritical of you guys to say we don't have the gift of prophecy when the standard you've set out would disqualify many of the accepted Biblical prophets.

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Ironhold said:

If you'll recall, a pretty good chunk of the prophesying in the Bible consisted of people telling folks that God was mad at them and that they needed to repent.

For example, the entire book of Jonah boiled down to "God told Jonah to warn others to repent, but Jonah tried to ignore the call because he didn't like the people he was called to minister to."

The big, flashy "In the year two thousaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand..." stuff was only a small percentage of it, and some prophets - like Jonah - were never called to give such prophecies to begin with.

So it's rather hypocritical of you guys to say we don't have the gift of prophecy when the standard you've set out would disqualify many of the accepted Biblical prophets.

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IchoozJC said:

Oh OK. Well, while were still comparing to OT prophets, how many Mormon prophets have a canonical book named after them? A few? All? None?

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