My first real prayer

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meant to say, since my faith pulls me threw, I look at it as redirection, not struggle.

you dont get faith by believing in god, each person is naturally born with the ability of faith. we have to decide what to put our faith into.
 
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That is exactly what our free will is the way I see it.
So I put my faith in God, which is everything good.
And when the liar trys to get me to doubt, be confused, worry, or any of that garbage I just turn it over to the Lord who gives me peace. But thats just me.

Thats good, but i see sin as my enemy not doubt.

Note: I have to look into doubt in the bible and make sure I understand it in context.
 
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I see where you're coming from. I feel doubt, and all other negativity tends to lead to sin. Has for me anyway.
But yeah you should. Especially meditate on Deuteronomy 28:66
I believe "life" in biblical terms means to live with God
And "death" is living away from him.
 
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I see where you're coming from. I feel doubt, and all other negativity tends to lead to sin. Has for me anyway.
But yeah you should. Especially meditate on Deuteronomy 28:66
I believe "life" in biblical terms means to live with God
And "death" is living away from him.
Read the bible gateway link and see if any of those verse about doubt fit in with your biblical view.
 
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I already had, and my same conclusion stands. Doubt is a waste! :)
Search faith, its mentioned at least 10 times as much, so which is greater?
Yes doubt could be a waste, but where does it come from. I'm interested in knowing how I fully function, body, mind and soul and if we study about doubt now in a biblical sense we may understand its correct function.
 
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Cool, good luck with that.
I figure I'll ask about that kinda thing in the Kingdom of Heaven.
My understanding, like I've already said. It is a tactic of the evil one, like hate and sadness.
I use those unavoidable things to draw closer to God when they arise in me.
He is good about making beauty out of ashes. :)
 
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Cool, good luck with that.
I figure I'll ask about that kinda thing in the Kingdom of Heaven.
My understanding, like I've already said. It is a tactic of the evil one, like hate and sadness.
I use those unavoidable things to draw closer to God when they arise in me.
He is good about making beauty out of ashes. :)
I understand that, it's a shake and bake approach to god. Your just accepting what you can make out of the pre made ingredients he's given you, and you don't want to know anything further until you get to the factory.
 
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Exactly, its called faith.
He even says over and over to not lean on your own understanding.
All I want to know is the good God has made for us. The bad comes with it, but I don't dwell on that nonsense!
Anyway, good luck on your journey friend. I thought you were here looking for support and encouragement, thought I may help.
You're looking for answers I can't give you.
 
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Exactly, its called faith.
He even says over and over to not lean on your own understanding.
All I want to know is the good God has made for us. The bad comes with it, but I don't dwell on that nonsense!
Anyway, good luck on your journey friend. I thought you were here looking for support and encouragement, thought I may help.
You're looking for answers I can't give you.
My friend god didn't just give me the ability of faith only.
 
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God's kinda like an abuser, he'll shower you with love and attention when you first meet him, but after you have fallen in love with him and accepted his proposal then the beatings begin.

I'm not wrong to point out that the god of the bible does and has hurt people. So tust me I'm not turning back to him, I just did what abused victims do from time to time.

He's like a Surgeon.
 
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Lord,

I have been looking for what is true for a very long time, and everything I have found so far is meaningless. Everyone I have ever met is deeply lost and sinful in their inner most parts, this is not excluding myself.

Lord,

I am crippled by sin and have walked a very dark path a very long time, one the world can not fix, nor do I know how to fix myself. So I am just going to come to you as I am and stop changing my clothes.

Lord,

I can see you are a ferocious lion who lies in wait on every corrupted path I have walked, as you are for all who walk in wicked ways. But you know my sins have always been before me because of that dream of that eggs blood, now that I hope you sent when I was a child.

"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." ~Matthew 11:28-30
 
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Hi Chris, I just want to mention something about faith and doubt for you to think about. So doubt is essentially an idea that challenges what we believe. This means that there must be conflicting ideas which are pulling us in different directions.

With belief, we have given the loyalty of our thoughts to one idea instead of another.

(this is a critical flaw in the way some atheist's regard their position, but it doesn't have to be. An atheist does not believe that God is real, but they do have a positive belief that God is not real. Because they cannot prove their belief about God, they are basing their beliefs on an unproven assumption and therefore demonstrating faith according to St. Paul's definition).

Doubt then, is the tendency for our thoughts to consider conflicting ideas, and to some degree, flirt with giving loyalty to them instead of the ideas we have chosen to call our belief.
 
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