John 3.16 the heart of the Gospel

A

Abramsailor

Guest
1 Corinthians 15:12-16
12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. (NKJV)
 
Upvote 0

faroukfarouk

Fading curmudgeon
Apr 29, 2009
35,901
17,177
Canada
✟279,058.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
There is something very special about the language of John's Gospel (and John's Epistles and Revelation; comparisons make an absorbing study in itself).

Of all the verses in John's Gospel, 3.16 must be the most quoted, and most beloved.
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,492
28,588
73
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,270.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
There is something very special about the language of John's Gospel (and John's Epistles and Revelation; comparisons make an absorbing study in itself).

Of all the verses in John's Gospel, 3.16 must be the most quoted, and most beloved.
John is my favorite book in the NT......

The Gospel according to John 3:16
The Gospel according to John 3:16

John 3:16 has become the flagship verse of Christians. Most Christians know it in verbatim and many non-believers also know it or at least recognize it and certainly recognize the references of "John 3:16". As an isolated verse however I don't think it is the best representation of what the gospel is. here is the verse and I will use the KJV version not because I'm advocate for KJV onlyism but because it probably is the most recognized translation of the verse.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The theology and soteriology of this verse tells us that God loves the world that he sent his son to us that we know to be Jesus and his death for our sins on the cross. God did this so that we should not perish but have everlasting life which is salvation.

There is a sort of antithesis here of how to define "hell". Salvation is through the son, expressed by God's love, and gives us everlasting life. Salvation then is not by any other means and the contrasting result is that we should perish which is specifically mentioned. The greek word for "perish" is apollymi and it literally means to destroy. "Everlasting life" or "Eternal" is life everlasting and never ending and its contrasted word of "perish" or the Greek to destroy (apollymi) suggests not of eternal torment and judgment but instead a void of nothingness disappearing into oblivion like you never existed.

John 3:16 presents a gospel without hell where those who accept Christ inherit eternal life and those who don't are destroyed. I am not an advocate for this idea of an anti-hell and although I think it is an abused word and misrepresented in terms of a biblical understanding I still believe in a place for the punishment of those who don't accept Christ, Hades, Hell or Sheol or whatever you want to call it. And I believe in the end all those within this place of punishment with be taken out, judged and those not found in the book of life be thrown into the lake of fire along with the very place itself. I just think John 3:16 doesn't demonstrate what we are saved from very well. Because of its popularity as a banner verse for Christianity it can add weight to those who say Hell doesn't exist but don't care to read the rest of the bible which actually is a rising number of believers and un-believers alike.

Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Young's Literal Translation

3:16
for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.


16

Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus

outwV gar hgaphsen o qeoV ton kosmon wste ton uion autou ton monogenh edwken ina paV o pisteuwn eiV auton mh apolhtai all ech zwhn aiwnion

outwV gar hgaphsen o qeoV ton kosmon wste ton uion autou
ton monogenh edwken ina paV o pisteuwn eiV auton mh apolhtai all ech zwhn aiwnion


.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

faroukfarouk

Fading curmudgeon
Apr 29, 2009
35,901
17,177
Canada
✟279,058.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
John is my favorite book in the NT......

http://www.christianforums.com/t7669567-3/
The Gospel according to John 3:16



Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Young's Literal Translation

3:16
for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.

16

Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
outwV gar hgaphsen o qeoV ton kosmon wste ton uion autou ton monogenh edwken ina paV o pisteuwn eiV auton mh apolhtai all ech zwhn aiwnion

outwV gar hgaphsen o qeoV ton kosmon wste ton uion autou
ton monogenh edwken ina paV o pisteuwn eiV auton mh apolhtai all ech zwhn aiwnion

.

Young's is an interesting translation! :)

It is so literal to be almost a sideways word-list! :)
 
Upvote 0

amymine712

Praising God
Jun 24, 2014
223
22
✟15,459.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Young's is an interesting translation! :)

It is so literal to be almost a sideways word-list! :)

I downed loaded Young's Literal Translation just the other day and it is an interesting read.

John 3:16 is one of my favorite verses...one I actually memorized. :angel: I love how John focuses on God's love in his writings. Revelation is a special book that I have spent some time in. I love prophecy and how it is interpreted and proved by old testament books.
 
Upvote 0

faroukfarouk

Fading curmudgeon
Apr 29, 2009
35,901
17,177
Canada
✟279,058.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
I downed loaded Young's Literal Translation just the other day and it is an interesting read.

John 3:16 is one of my favorite verses...one I actually memorized. :angel: I love how John focuses on God's love in his writings. Revelation is a special book that I have spent some time in. I love prophecy and how it is interpreted and proved by old testament books.

Ms. amymine712:

Yes, and love is a great theme in John's First Epistle also: 'Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and send His Son to be the propitiation (wrath-ending sacrifice) for our sins' (1 John 4.10).

There is something very special about the language of John's writings.

Blessings.
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,492
28,588
73
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,270.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
John is my favorite book in the NT......

http://www.christianforums.com/t7669567-3/
The Gospel according to John 3:16

Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Young's Literal Translation

3:16
for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.

Young's is an interesting translation! :)

It is so literal to be almost a sideways word-list! :)
I generally translate verses the same way.....one member called mine "the Yoda Revised Version" :D

http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=49316928&postcount=130
I've always enjoyed LLOJ's Bible quotes. Jokingly (and not at all insultingly) I refer to it as "the Yoda Revised Version" because the sense of it one can undersand, but backwards usually it reads! :)



.
 
Upvote 0

faroukfarouk

Fading curmudgeon
Apr 29, 2009
35,901
17,177
Canada
✟279,058.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
John is my favorite book in the NT......

http://www.christianforums.com/t7669567-3/
The Gospel according to John 3:16

Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Young's Literal Translation

3:16
for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.

I generally translate verses the same way.....one member called mine "the Yoda Revised Version" :D

http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=49316928&postcount=130




.

A sideways word list-type of translation may be particularly good for careful study, although from a readability perspective it loses something, I guess.

Depends on the purpose, really.
 
Upvote 0

brinny

everlovin' shiner of light in dark places
Site Supporter
Mar 23, 2004
248,794
114,491
✟1,343,306.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Constitution
For me, John 3.16 contains the heart of the Gospel. So many essential elements are there, and it affirms the great love of the Savior and the living hope of those who trust in Him!

This IS a glorious verse, amen......

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." ~John 3:16

I love it that it emphasizes how God sooooo loved the world, and just how MUCH He DID love the world He created. And that God had a plan to counteract what was done at the fall, and that the enemy does NOT win (even if it appears he does - with the curse of death and estrangement from God, etc.)

He doesn't. He's defeated. Halleluia!!!
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

faroukfarouk

Fading curmudgeon
Apr 29, 2009
35,901
17,177
Canada
✟279,058.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
This IS a glorious verse, amen......

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." ~John 3:16

I love it that it emphasizes how God sooooo loved the world, and just how MUCH He DID love the world He created. And that God had a plan to counteract what was done at the fall, and that the enemy does NOT win (even if it appears he does - with the curse of death and estrangement from God, etc.)

He doesn't. He's defeated. Halleluia!!!

Great thoughts!

Someone said, the measure of God's love (SO loved) is seen in the greatness of the One given.

Blessings.
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,492
28,588
73
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,270.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
A sideways word list-type of translation may be particularly good for careful study, although from a readability perspective it loses something, I guess.

Depends on the purpose, really.
One good thing I like about YLT is the accuracy of it in following the Greek Text.
Being as literal as it is, it makes one read it slower.

Rotherham's is another very literal and good accurate version, but he appears to use too many punctuation marks.................

Rotherham]
16
For God, so loved, the world, that, his Only Begotten Son, he gave,—that, whosoever believeth on him, might not perish, but have life age-abiding.


.
 
  • Like
Reactions: brinny
Upvote 0

faroukfarouk

Fading curmudgeon
Apr 29, 2009
35,901
17,177
Canada
✟279,058.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
One good thing I like about YLT is the accuracy of it in following the Greek Text.
Being as literal as it is, it makes one read it slower.

Rotherham's is another very literal and good accurate version, but he appears to use too many punctuation marks.................

Rotherham]
16
For God, so loved, the world, that, his Only Begotten Son, he gave,—that, whosoever believeth on him, might not perish, but have life age-abiding.


.

R. sure seems punctuation-friendly...

Yes, I'm sure there is value for study in a concordant-type translation.

Whether when reading to a group of folk in a senior home it would be the best version, is another matter.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
G

godenver1

Guest
John 3:16 within its chapter-context (NKJV)

3 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”

5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”

10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.[a] 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”


22 After these things Jesus and His disciples came into the land of Judea, and there He remained with them and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim, because there was much water there. And they came and were baptized. 24 For John had not yet been thrown into prison.

25 Then there arose a dispute between some of John’s disciples and the Jews about purification. 26 And they came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified—behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to Him!”

27 John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven. 28 You yourselves bear me witness, that I said, ‘I am not the Christ,’ but, ‘I have been sent before Him.’ 29 He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. Therefore this joy of mine is fulfilled. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease. 31 He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all. 32 And what He has seen and heard, that He testifies; and no one receives His testimony. 33 He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true. 34 For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. 35 The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand. 36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: sunsurfkdt
Upvote 0

faroukfarouk

Fading curmudgeon
Apr 29, 2009
35,901
17,177
Canada
✟279,058.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
:amen: and :amen: Favorite verse John 3:16! :cheer:

Army Wife:

Same here!:) It's a verse that is beloved among Christians, and has been for generations. It's both encouraging for believers and a challenge to unbelievers. My wife and I not long ago met a lady with the words of John 3.16 tattooed on her lower arm and it was just nice to be able to share appreciation with her of what turned out to be my and her favorite verse of Scripture. John 3.16 has such a lot of truth in it; it can be broken down and looked at from many angles and it continues to shine forth in blessing to many.

Blessings.
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,492
28,588
73
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,270.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
John 3:16 within its chapter-context (NKJV)

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
:thumbsup: :amen:

Like E.F. Hutton, when the Son speaks, people better listen!

Matthew 17:5
Still of-Him speaking, behold! a luminous cloud, over-shadows them
and behold! a Voice out of the cloud saying "this is the Son of Me, the Beloved, in whom I delight, be ye hearing Him!".
[Deut 28/Acts 3:22/Reve 2:18]

Revelation 2:18
And to the messenger of the assembly in Thyatira, write!
Now this is saying the Son of GOD, the One having the eyes of Him as flame of fire, and the feet of Him as to burnished-brass.
[Mat]




.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

faroukfarouk

Fading curmudgeon
Apr 29, 2009
35,901
17,177
Canada
✟279,058.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
:thumbsup: :amen:

Like E.F. Hutton, when the Son speaks, people better listen!

Matthew 17:5
Still of-Him speaking, behold! a luminous cloud, over-shadows them
and behold! a Voice out of the cloud saying "this is the Son of Me, the Beloved, in whom I delight, be ye hearing Him!". [Deut 28/Acts 3:22/Reve 2:18]

Revelation 2:18
And to the messenger of the assembly in Thyatira, write!
Now this is saying the Son of GOD, the One having the eyes of Him as flame of fire, and the feet of Him as to burnished-brass. [Matt 17:5/Acts 3:22/Mark 9:7]

When E.F. Hutton talks, people listen. vintage tv commercial - YouTube



.

Interesting comments!
 
Upvote 0