MASSIVE Revival???

I don't think a "majority of the people" will be saved. I think a tremendous harvest is forthcoming. It's even been said that for a season, it will be popular to be a Christian. God will be revealing Himself with great signs and the media will run after it. At the same time the devil will do the same thing with lying signs and wonders.

As God told Kat Kerr, when the coming days of Noah, so to speak are here, the spirit realm will be openly reacting with the physical realm in many ways. We're still a ways from that, but great revival really is coming. One word said that it will break the net of every man made institution built to serve them.

Consider Lester Sumrall's vision of the Body of Christ, risen up, like Gulliver's "giant". God will have His day, but even though the glory of the Lord covers the earth like the waters cover the sea, the majority will reject it.

But think about it, if millions got saved and on fire for God in a very short time, the momentum visible on the earth; the displacement of evil forces; the resulting tumult on the earth physically.

The "kings" are prophesied to be coming forth, and they'll help move great amounts of money for the gospel. Great acts of charity... Speaking and declaring with great authority.

Get it in your spirit. Everyone should replace the "survival kit" brand of gospel that says the devil is about to fully take over and we're leaving.

It appears, based on Ephesians 4 that the "Visible church" will actually be "brought together in unity by the Holy Spirit" at some point in the future, and become the "Spiritual force" that it was in Acts 4. We had a small demonstration of that in the '70s.

The World hasn't really ever dealt with THAT church - only the Factioned and largely ineffective situation we see now.

SO I'd guess that there WILL BE a significant revival at the end of the age, and many will come into the kingdom at the 11th hour.

Alive_Again said:

I don't think a "majority of the people" will be saved. I think a tremendous harvest is forthcoming. It's even been said that for a season, it will be popular to be a Christian. God will be revealing Himself with great signs and the media will run after it. At the same time the devil will do the same thing with lying signs and wonders.

As God told Kat Kerr, when the coming days of Noah, so to speak are here, the spirit realm will be openly reacting with the physical realm in many ways. We're still a ways from that, but great revival really is coming. One word said that it will break the net of every man made institution built to serve them.

Consider Lester Sumrall's vision of the Body of Christ, risen up, like Gulliver's "giant". God will have His day, but even though the glory of the Lord covers the earth like the waters cover the sea, the majority will reject it.

But think about it, if millions got saved and on fire for God in a very short time, the momentum visible on the earth; the displacement of evil forces; the resulting tumult on the earth physically.

The "kings" are prophesied to be coming forth, and they'll help move great amounts of money for the gospel. Great acts of charity... Speaking and declaring with great authority.

Get it in your spirit. Everyone should replace the "survival kit" brand of gospel that says the devil is about to fully take over and we're leaving.

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That vision was by Tommy Hicks, not Sumrall. He did talk about it from time to time, however. I still have the cassette of it from all those years ago.

Ted Lang said:

I keep hearing the occasional preacher talk about some to the effect of "the majority of the population of the earth getting saved".

I do listen to numerous ministers (mainly on TV) that specialize in end times teaching and I don't recall anyone providing a list of scriptures that say this.

I remember reading when Jesus said the way wuz narrow and few would find it. Considering that, does anyone have at least a few scriptural references that indicate a large percentage of the earth's population will be getting saved?

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I guess the best thing to do would be to write down the preachers name.
Then what Bible verses he used as a reference would be a start.

It's hard to respond to {some guy said} since we do not know the implied teaching.

Example Bob C provided a good answer based on the limited info he had.

Your answer could be in the prophetic Books of the Old Testament,or in the book of Revelation.
So tell us where you found this topic and that way you and the rest of the forum will both know.

It is in their ignorance that they do what they do. They're not contacting "other gods" and so it's not idolatry. Idolatry takes place when you make a god out of the place Godis entitled to.

When they pray to saints, it is with the intent that they'll receive God's grace "via proxy" from someone who was known to have some kind of anointing in that department. They're really trying to receive from the real God. They're just ignorant of the Word that they can really receive directly.

It's ignorance, not idolatry. I used to wonder in a similar vein as you. People quote the "come out of her My people!" passage as though they are defiled and utterly unfit because of their ignorance (still seeking the same God). I was pleasantly surprised to find out otherwise.

You know, most of the church was caught up in the same ignorance and superstition for over a thousand years. Not many missed that detail. I'm sure their was a remnant somewhere, but it does not mean everyone else missed God entirely.

He looks on the heart. Of course they won't profit from "grace brokers" and anything outside of the Word won't be blessed or condoned, but He's not casting away those who want to honor Him the only way they know how. They hear the Word and desire to love. They may have little power, but they have humility and desire.

The Catholic revival is coming!

That's funny... they don't have bibles? You're just making excuses for sin!

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I do, but you're limiting God by the ignorance you see Catholics have. They get taught certain scriptures a certain way, and that allows their conscience to stand before God without condemnation.

I've seen Him work over there and He's not holding out on anybody. When they come to get Spirit filled, He does not tell them to "come out from them", He tells them to come out of the world (if they are). Usually if they approach God for this, in their hearts, they already have.

Yes, there is a lot of worldliness among Catholics (gambling, beer drinking, a lot of the wrong inputs media wise, etc.), but many really want God and would jump at the chance to really make contact with Him.

You remember Kenneth Hagin had the vision of the flowers and the waters that Jesus said were the denominations coming in to the Full Gospel experience. He preached in Catholic churches too. He said they wept at the fresh move they had in the prayer meetings they attended. They sung some of the old hymns and were very touched. Yes, it shocks some Pentecostals to think that He would even go there for want of all of the "religion", but if He can deal with it, I can too.

Ignorance and lack of knowledge have been quoted here a lot in this thread.

The Word says that God's people perish for lack of knowledge (ignorance). Hosea 4:6

Sort of similar to ignorance of the speed limit doesn't get you out of the ticket.

God doesn't want them to perish, but their ignorance and lack of knowledge will lead to that end.

Side note: I believe the RCC is getting a bit too much of the bad rap here, as there are many other denominations whose teachings are based on extra-biblical, unbiblical doctrines. Think of all the cessationist churches, just for starters.

OK, so you are saying God is cool with people making up their own teachings and ignoring His Word?

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As for anyone else, if you ignore the Word, you won't be blessed. It's not good for anybody. But we're talking about (usually) people who walk in the only light that they have (for lack of Biblical teaching He agrees with).

The do what they know. What was it He said, something like, "Every denomination has a deposit of truth." In other words, the Word they agree with (that He agrees with) enables them to be blessed. They use that to try and win others. They're not opposed to Him.

He told Hagin, "I bless My people as far as I can", but He went on to say that people have to walk in His plan and that's why they're not as blessed as they might; that's why they're not as happy as they might be; that's why they may tribulate more than they need to; that's why sometimes they're not financially prosperous; or healed, etc.

Unquestionable the enemy entered into the picture and weaved some bad doctrine and He won't bless it no matter how many times they genuflect or use holy water, etc. But as much of the Word they do walk in, He'll bless them because many of their hearts are right.

They might not have any power working, but they're on board. They do the "Mary" thing without a troubled conscience. I'm convinced it's wrong, but it does not disqualify them in their ignorance.

I know it's a real stronghold and it really irks some Catholics to hear me say this. It was handed to them just like some of the junk we've heard was handed to us.

A lot of "religious" thinking has to get dismantled and He's doing it. It takes patience to get past that labyrinth of doctrine. I can assure you that He never gave up on them, even though they deviate from the plan in some ways. It's better to be part of the solution and not dismiss a camp He's very much active in. That's all I can really say.

You could quote a bunch of scripture that would seemingly disqualify them, but since He reads the heart and speaks through the conscience, the fruits of it (what we're to judge by, because of our limited knowledge of the heart condition of the one you'd be inclined to judge) are favorable.

You'll see a lot more in the future from them. I do get tired of the "Peter's successors" thing, and Purgatory robs them of the joy and consolation of their loved one's passing, but believe it or not, they are your brothers and sisters.

Ted Lang said:

I keep hearing the occasional preacher talk about some to the effect of "the majority of the population of the earth getting saved".

I do listen to numerous ministers (mainly on TV) that specialize in end times teaching and I don't recall anyone providing a list of scriptures that say this.

I remember reading when Jesus said the way wuz narrow and few would find it. Considering that, does anyone have at least a few scriptural references that indicate a large percentage of the earth's population will be getting saved?

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I think many times people confuse what they WANT to happen with what the Bible says WILL happen. The Bible says it is going to be like Sodom & Gomorrah & like Noah at the time of the Flood.... In both of those instances, there were not many people saved. Lot and his two daughters made it out of Sodom & Gomorrah & Noah, his wife, and their 3 sons and their wives, made it through the Flood. The majority have NEVER been on the right side...

And you are right...the Bible says, "NARROW is the way that leads to Heaven and FEW there be that find it." So when a preacher says otherwise....you know you better turn him off and not listen to anything he says....cause he's probably preaching other errors as well.

Hi Ted,

How about this passage:

"When the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" {Jesus in Luke 18:8}

It doesn't sound like there's going to be a whole lot of true faith when Jesus returns. Which certainly is in harmony with the narrow way verse:

"The way is narrow that leads to life, and only a few ever find it." {Matthew 7:14}

God Bless