Is Mushrooms Food?

i love them and eat them, i hope they're food

According to Chabad . org they are:


Are mushrooms kosher?
By Rochel Chein

Yes, mushrooms are kosher. A mushroom is a fungus, and in general, natural fungi are kosher. Since bugs are not kosher, you should make sure that your mushrooms aren't infested with insects before eating them. Rinse the mushrooms and check a few samples to make sure that no creature calls these mushrooms "home." For this reason, the brown area under the top of portabella mushrooms should be removed.
If the mushrooms are canned, you should look for a symbol of kosher certification on the label, since non-kosher ingredients may have been used during the process, or the mushrooms may have been on the same production lines as non-kosher foods. The kosher certification agency also ensures that the mushrooms are not infested with insects.
Since you asked about mushrooms, I should mention that the sages of the Talmud (Brachot 40b) discuss the blessing to be recited before eating mushrooms. Mushrooms, though they grow on the ground, do not receive their nutrition from the soil as plants do. Therefore, the proper blessing for mushrooms is not ha'adamah ("Blessed are You... who creates the fruit of the earth"), the blessing said on vegetables, but rather the default blessing, "by whose word all things came to be."
You can find more information on Kosher and on the blessings recited on various foods in our Kosher Section.
Enjoy your mushrooms!
All the best,
Rochel Chein for Chabad.org

Of course mushrooms are food. Are you asking if they are kosher? Looks like that has already been answered.

If it ain't biblically kosher - it biblically is not called "food."

It's absurd to think that pork isn't food.

Daniel 1 says that the food and drink of the king's table was offered to Daniel. These were unclean food and drink, and Daniel refused to eat them. However, he never said that it wasn't really food. What an absurd ad hoc position to take! Of course it's food!

Just because some people (including foreign kings) call something "food" does not really make it so biblically.

When Our Lord declared "all foods clean" in Mark 7:19; do you really think pork and shellfish were declared "clean?" Or are they biblically not "food" and are thus exempted from that declaration?

DaveW-Ohev said:

Just because some people (including foreign kings) call something "food" does not really make it so biblically.

When Our Lord declared "all foods clean" in Mark 7:19; do you really think pork and shellfish were declared "clean?" Or are they biblically not "food" and are thus exempted from that declaration?

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If Daniel had answered by saying that what the king offered him was not food, then you would have a point. No such thing was said. Instead, this is what Daniel said:


Why didn't Daniel say "with that of the young men who eat the non-food given by the king"? It is a very odd thing to me that Messianics try to claim that unkosher food isn't food in the Bible. I understand that this is your ad hoc position created in order to re-interpret what was said about Jesus "making all foods clean." I understand why you hold your position, but it is an absurd position to hold. Food is anything that a person eats for the purpose of sustenance.

yonah_mishael said:

Why didn't Daniel say "with that of the young men who eat the non-food given by the king"? It is a very odd thing to me that Messianics try to claim that unkosher food isn't food in the Bible. I understand that this is your ad hoc position created in order to re-interpret what was said about Jesus "making all foods clean." I understand why you hold your position, but it is an absurd position to hold. Food is anything that a person eats for the purpose of sustenance.

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Agreed, it is indeed an absurd position to hold. And Jesus supposedly "declaring all foods clean" in Mark 7:19 is a parenthetical only, found in new age Bible versions. It is not part of the Greek text.

In some places, humans are food...

Torah Lishmah said:

Agreed, it is indeed an absurd position to hold. And Jesus supposedly "declaring all foods clean" in Mark 7:19 is a parenthetical only, found in new age Bible versions. It is not part of the Greek text.

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Not so.

In order for a leper to be "cleansed" the evil must first be "purged" out from him. It seems to me that this purging process, when used in the context of the digestive system, would not make anything "clean" for eating when it has "come out the other end" sort of speak.

That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man; perhaps then it matters not which end it comes out from or whether one desires to call it "food" or not.

daq said:

In order for a leper to be "cleansed" the evil must first be "purged" out from him. It seems to me that this purging process, when used in the context of the digestive system, would not make anything "clean" for eating when it has "come out the other end" sort of speak.

That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man; perhaps then it matters not which end it comes out from or whether one desires to call it "food" or not.

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Of course excrement will make you unclean. No one was arguing that. The discussion of "food" deals with what it is before it enters the body. Jesus said that nothing that enters the body can defile a man. In other words, you will not be defiled if you eat pork, if you eat shellfish or if you eat snails. What you eat does not defile you. It is what you do and what you think and what you say that makes you a bad person (or, alternatively, a righteous one).

yonah_mishael said:

Of course excrement will make you unclean. No one was arguing that. The discussion of "food" deals with what it is before it enters the body. Jesus said that nothing that enters the body can defile a man. In other words, you will not be defiled if you eat pork, if you eat shellfish or if you eat snails. What you eat does not defile you. It is what you do and what you think and what you say that makes you a bad person (or, alternatively, a righteous one).

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Ezekiel 4:9-15, Acts 10:11-16, and Acts 15:20-29 are related in addition to the fact that the same word for purged-cleansed is used for the cleansing of lepers. The portion found concerning the ten lepers in Luke 17 is likewise related and the same word for cleansing is found also in Leviticus 14 in the Septuagint. In the Mark passage which has been referenced in this thread the author uses broma which concerns ceremonial foods. Look at the immediate context in which the statement is found; it concerns in an idiomatic way that which comes out of both ends because the statement immediately preceding what you have referenced concerns "what goes out the daught" having gone through the belly. To say that this passage suggests that Yeshua declared "all foods clean" is the one of the most atrocious misrepresentations of the writings they have ever committed, (and why the definition of broma has been scrubbed for western consumption, pardon the pun, ).

Mark 7:19-20 KJV
19. Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging [GSN#2511 katharizo-(katharizon)] all meats? [GSN#1033 broma-(bromata)]
20. And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

Irregardless of what the modern definitions might say this word broma originally meant foods declared clean/unclean by Jewish law and therefore concerns ceremonial foods and not just anything that is eaten in modern times. The modern definitions have been scrubbed and we all know why for the most part, (because of preconceived mainstream doctrines concerning killing and eating anything and everything that moves, ).

Original Strong's Ref. #1033
Romanized broma
Pronounced bro'-mah
from the base of GSN0977; food (literally or figuratively), especially (ceremonially) articles allowed or forbidden by the Jewish law:
KJV--meat, victuals.

Luke 17:12-19
12. And as he entered into a certain village, there met him ten men that were lepers, which stood afar off:
13. And they lifted up their voices, and said, Yeshua, Epistata-Commander, have mercy on us!
14. And when he saw them, he said unto them, Go shew yourselves unto the priests. And it came to pass, that, as they went, they were cleansed-purged, [GSN#2511 katharthizo-(ekatharisthesan) Re: Mark 7:19].
15. And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God,
16. And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan.
17. And Yeshua answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine?
18. There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.
19. And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole.

Perhaps this is a kind of "leprosy" in the walls of a "house" which cannot be seen with the eyes of the flesh? I remember a day wherein I myself went to the Priest, and said, "It seems to me there is as it were a plague in the walls of my house!" And as I remember there was at that time an appointment made for me and my house: and the Priest commanded that they empty the house, before the Priest could go into it to see the plague, (which is the Law) so that all that is in the house be not made unclean. However, if one is not willing to admit that he might have some "leprosy in the walls of his house" then why would he feel the need for the Priest? But be aware if you do not already know that the Most High has said that He himself will put leprosy in the walls of a house, (Leviticus 14:34-35) and I suppose that is to see if his people who dwell in his Land will do the right thing and go to the Priest as he commanded. See what I mean? It really is about so much more than eating; and we have not even begun to address the deeper things such as Zechariah 5:1-4 which also concerns the stones and timbers of an unclean house.

By the way the Gospel of Mark is essentially that of Peter and that is why I referred to the Acts 10 vision previously above. How much later was that vision? It occurred some seven to ten years after Yeshua was crucified. Yet look at what Peter says in the vision:

Acts 10:14
14. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean [Re: Ezekiel 4:14].

Peter therefore did not perceive the Mark 7:19 statement the way it is commonly perceived today.

visionary said:

I love them.

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Hi friend! Just stopped by to see what's happening and saw your post. Hope all is well with you and yours.

Probably don't want my 2 cents but here it is anyway.

Are they food?

Well mushrooms are a fungus. They are produced by spores. And the Bible tells us in Genesis:

Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

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Seems things with seeds in them that grow from the earth or from trees are what is food for us. Perhaps why the blessing is different for them?

• They may exist as in 'by whose word all things came to be', but were these created for humans to eat?
• What about animals? It seems that mushrooms are eaten by many animals, oddly enough those that are considered unclean. (Badgers, mice, pigs, rabbits, squirrels, snails, slugs, etc.)
• Fungi are considered more closely related to animals than plants, maybe that is why they shouldn't be considered food for humans. They don't require the sun to live, but can live in darkness.
• Yeast is also a fungi which we are told to stay away from and is compared to sin. It is everywhere in the air, all around us, kinda like sinful things and temptations.

Just some things to contemplate.

Carry on.

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