Illegals bussed to Wal Mart to shop with EBT cards

Ana the Ist said:

Back when I lived near the border (about 25 miles to be exact) you saw these busses full of workers all the time. Some workers would drive personal vehicles to the fields they were working...but even those were crowded full of passengers. Most of them didn't seem to have cars, weren't able to drive legally, or simply didn't want to spend gas money when they had a cheaper option.

This article could've only come from a conservative outlet.....
-no search for facts...check
-biased/unreliable sources...check
-unwarranted blaming of the government...check
-phony prefabricated outrage...check

The more prominent these conservative media outlets become the more hilarious their accusations at the mainstream media are.

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The Washington Free Beacon fact checks (they did not run with this story).

MachZer0 said:

Trouble is that if not for this thread, I know I never would have heard about the story.

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And we wouldn't have gotten the lulz of certain people scrambling to defend a false interpretation of an innocuous event.

DaisyDay said:

And we wouldn't have gotten the lulz of certain people scrambling to defend a false interpretation of an innocuous event.

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If that suffices as a good reason to spread false information, then the thread was worth it I suppose

It's called 'bait'. Did it taste good? Looked a little stringy to me.

Whether this particular story is true or not really doesn't matter too much as it depicts what generally does take place with people who arrive in this country destitute...handouts by the taxpayer.

I live in South Florida and it has for many, many years been the mantra of the struggling citizens that it would be best, once so down and out, to throw away all IDs and papers and pretend to arrive from Cuba on a boat for then everything one needs to begin a great life is given to them.

Not so for the Haitian, but for the Cubans, yes... "wet foot dry foot" policy.

We as a nation seem to forget how to take care of our own, but surely do put out the hospitality mat for certain others (not just singling out the Cuban refugees).

Whether this particular story is true or not really doesn't matter too much as it depicts what generally does take place with people who arrive in this country destitute...handouts by the taxpayer.

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In other words, so long as information fits your opinion, it does not matter whether it's true. Noted.

I live in South Florida and it has for many, many years been the mantra of the struggling citizens that it would be best, once so down and out, to throw away all IDs and papers and pretend to arrive from Cuba on a boat for then everything one needs to begin a great life is given to them.

Not so for the Haitian, but for the Cubans, yes... "wet foot dry foot" policy.

We as a nation seem to forget how to take care of our own, but surely do put out the hospitality mat for certain others (not just singling out the Cuban refugees).

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We has a nation have the resources to take care of our own children. We simply choose not to.

wing2000 said:

In other words, so long as information fits your opinion, it does not matter whether it's true. Noted.



We has a nation have the resources to take care of our own children. We simply choose not to.

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QFT.

DaisyDay said:

Charming.

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You skipped over post #25, which was the context for my post. (Based on posts before that)

DaisyDay said:

It depends - if each of them uses the exact same words or if they each quote from the exact same source, then it is really just one report, repeated and echoed.

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Exactly what I mean. For instance, rarely do we see independent reports from abroad. The Ukranian failure of flights sure is a concerning development though

Sweet rant! I'd give it an 8 out of a possible 10 only because you didn't use any BOLDING or RaNdOm switching of upper to lower case and would adding SoMe CoLoR be too much to ask for? But over all an excellent job!
tulc(well done sis!)

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I'm sorry, but I don't think there are any openings for unpaid interns at the Daily Show.

Besides, you're too old.

theophilus777 said:

You skipped over post #25, which was the context for my post. (Based on posts before that)

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I understood the context, but you are responsible for your own posts.

Exactly what I mean.

But strangely enough if a few of them corroborate the same story I tend to think its true? Hmmm ... maybe I should re-evaluate?

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Um, it's not corroboration if it's a mere recitation of the same source.

For instance, rarely do we see independent reports from abroad. The Ukranian failure of flights sure is a concerning development though

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You have to look in order to see.

wing2000 said:

In other words, so long as information fits your opinion, it does not matter whether it's true. Noted.



We has a nation have the resources to take care of our own children. We simply choose not to.

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No, that's not what I said.

nightflight said:

I'm sorry, but I don't think there are any openings for unpaid interns at the Daily Show.

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...OK, thanks for sharing that and I hope you have better luck the next time you apply. You'll keep us in the loop right?

Besides, you're too old.

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it was either grow old or die and I have grandchildren, so dying doesn't seem like a good idea just yet!
tulc(they're our reward for not eating our kids when they were teenagers!)

tulc said:

Sweet rant! I'd give it an 8 out of a possible 10 only because you didn't use any BOLDING or RaNdOm switching of upper to lower case and would adding SoMe CoLoR be too much to ask for? But over all an excellent job!
tulc(well done sis!)

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I could care less what you think. You're not the resident judge. But thanks once again for making it about me.

Fear is having a scary affect on compassion, which has lead to irrational outburst from American citizens. Me, mine, us, ours, that's what is being chanted. Too many Americans look upon these children with scorn. Consider what they're going through. Some are likely runaways, but there are many small children who would rather be with their parents instead of lingering at our borders.

Instead of jumping to mad we need to consider ways to help. Now the government has allocated money, and my idea is that they use it to open orphanages near these children's regions, and get regional governments involved in helping facilitate them, because these are their people. Also, those regions should enact a law that says any parent who abandons their children in this manner will get prison time. That should stop the mass influx.

Please post your suggestion that will benefit our borders and these children.

God bless,

BigRoost.com

If they have EBT cards, then the government cannot be unaware of their existence, so in a sense people are whipping up antagonism against the government (even if they have no moral reserve against whipping up antagonism against the people concerned).

TheGuide said:

Fear is having a scary affect on compassion, which has lead to irrational outburst from American citizens. Me, mine, us, ours, that's what is being chanted. Too many Americans look upon these children with scorn. Consider what they're going through. Some are likely runaways, but there are many small children who would rather be with their parents instead of lingering at our borders.

Instead of jumping to mad we need to consider ways to help. Now the government has allocated money, and my idea is that they use it to open orphanages near these children's regions, and get regional governments involved in helping facilitate them, because these are their people. Also, those regions should enact a law that says any parent who abandons their children in this manner will get prison time. That should stop the mass influx.

Please post your suggestion that will benefit our borders and these children.

God bless,

BigRoost.com

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I suggest that those who live in sanctuary cities take the illegal aliens into their homes. Lead by example

TheGuide said:

Fear is having a scary affect on compassion, which has lead to irrational outburst from American citizens. Me, mine, us, ours, that's what is being chanted. Too many Americans look upon these children with scorn. Consider what they're going through. Some are likely runaways, but there are many small children who would rather be with their parents instead of lingering at our borders.

Instead of jumping to mad we need to consider ways to help. Now the government has allocated money, and my idea is that they use it to open orphanages near these children's regions, and get regional governments involved in helping facilitate them, because these are their people. Also, those regions should enact a law that says any parent who abandons their children in this manner will get prison time. That should stop the mass influx.

Please post your suggestion that will benefit our borders and these children.

God bless,

BigRoost.com

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Also, if as one thread argues, the US was founded on Christian principles then why are we arguing about helping them? According to Christ Himself, we are to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, take in the stranger, give drink to the thirsty, and visit those who are sick or in prison. So we need to act on those Christian principles that our country was founded on. Unfortunately, those who seem to be arguing that we were founded on these principles seem to be arguing that we should do the opposite.

I would rather have the new illegals get direct assistance through an EBT card rather than going to crooked politicians in Central American countries. I've maintained that if we are going to give foreign aid, 90% should go to the poor who need it rather than to the deep pockets of corrupt foreign government officials. Definitely nothing should go for arms.

Living in the Light said:

I've maintained that if we are going to give foreign aid, 90% should go to the poor who need it rather than to the deep pockets of corrupt foreign government officials. Definitely nothing should go for arms.

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Don't be such a spoilsport. If things were done that way, who would feed our poor military industrial complex?

TheGuide said:

Fear is having a scary affect on compassion, which has lead to irrational outburst from American citizens. Me, mine, us, ours, that's what is being chanted. Too many Americans look upon these children with scorn. Consider what they're going through. Some are likely runaways, but there are many small children who would rather be with their parents instead of lingering at our borders.

Instead of jumping to mad we need to consider ways to help. Now the government has allocated money, and my idea is that they use it to open orphanages near these children's regions, and get regional governments involved in helping facilitate them, because these are their people. Also, those regions should enact a law that says any parent who abandons their children in this manner will get prison time. That should stop the mass influx.

Please post your suggestion that will benefit our borders and these children.

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First of all, my State has determined that foster homes are better than orphanages. I'm not sure if one has any economic advantage over the other ...

katherine2001 said:

Also, if as one thread argues, the US was founded on Christian principles then why are we arguing about helping them? According to Christ Himself, we are to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, take in the stranger, give drink to the thirsty, and visit those who are sick or in prison. So we need to act on those Christian principles that our country was founded on. Unfortunately, those who seem to be arguing that we were founded on these principles seem to be arguing that we should do the opposite.

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You both are suggesting rewarding the behavior of parents abandoning their children, exposing them to all sorts of human predators along their journey, all in the hopes of doing something that is not really practical. If we reward that behavior, it will increase. Meanwhile our border patrol can't do their job because they're swamped with these kids. Let's see, why do said human predators let these kids through again? Oh yea, to distract our border patrol. Don't you wonder what is crossing our borders while our patrols are distracted? Heroin use is an epidemic; could there be any connection?

The Guide did suggest punishing the parents who abandon their kids, but how will this be a deterrent? If we ever found said parents, which we can't, they live in other countries. We have no right to imprison them anyway. And if we did find them, wouldn't we rather have them care for their own kids? Isn't the idea to do the right thing? Wouldn't it also be cheaper to support the parents raising their own kids? Even cheaper than keeping the parents in our prison?

I see no easy solutions to this. POTUS' request for money from Congress would expand Judicial capacity by some 50,000 hearings for these kids, per year. IOW, we'd never catch up with the 2 year backlog that exists already.