The hypocrisy of men of the Bible.

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Can anyone explain what is with the hypocrisy of men of the Bible?

When Tamar was told, "Your father-in-law is on his way to Timnah to shear his sheep," she took off her widow's clothes, covered herself with a veil to disguise herself, and then sat down at the entrance to Enaim, which is on the road to Timnah. For she saw that, though Shelah had now grown up, she had not been given to him as his wife. When Judah saw her, he thought she was a prostitute, for she had covered her face. Not realizing that she was his daughter-in-law, he went over to her by the roadside and said, "Come now, let me sleep with you." "And what will you give me to sleep with you?" she asked...He said, "What pledge should I give you?" "Your seal and its cord, and the staff in your hand," she answered. So he gave them to her and slept with her, and she became pregnant by him.
About three months later Judah was told, "Your daughter-in-law Tamar is guilty of prostitution, and as a result she is now pregnant." Judah said, "Bring her out and have her burned to death!" -Genesis 38:13-24


And I couldn't understand what David did to get Uriah's wife as his wife.

How could a God who hates wrong and hypocrisy tolerate this? Could this perhaps mean that mankind was helpless and hopeless in their wickedness without Christ having set an example? And if so, what was the purpose in all of God's laws if such alleged "men of God" couldn't obey them?

How strange. This kinda stuff makes it hard to debate with atheists sometimes.
 
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I believe the idea you are looking for is the mercy of God. No one claims the people talked about in the Bible, especially the OT people are perfect, or even good, but the point isn't to make them look good, but to highlight the goodness of God towards those undeserving.

Even the prophets are not perfect, look at Moses or Samuel for example.

If you are looking for a purpose of the Bible, it is found in the cross, and Jesus taking our punishment because heck yeah God hates sin, but He also loves us immensely, and that's the point, He takes it upon Himself to free us from our hypocrisy and sin, while also taking the blow that we deserved.

Obviously you see that the people couldn't keep the laws set out by God, and that's true and is in fact a major argument used by Paul to point people to the un-earned grace of God at the cross which does in us and to us what the law could never do.

Though pro-tip, don't go about searching for answers just to use in debates with atheists, go about studying for yourself to come to gripes with it personally.
 
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Can anyone explain what is with the hypocrisy of men of the Bible?

When Tamar was told, "Your father-in-law is on his way to Timnah to shear his sheep," she took off her widow's clothes, covered herself with a veil to disguise herself, and then sat down at the entrance to Enaim, which is on the road to Timnah. For she saw that, though Shelah had now grown up, she had not been given to him as his wife. When Judah saw her, he thought she was a prostitute, for she had covered her face. Not realizing that she was his daughter-in-law, he went over to her by the roadside and said, "Come now, let me sleep with you." "And what will you give me to sleep with you?" she asked...He said, "What pledge should I give you?" "Your seal and its cord, and the staff in your hand," she answered. So he gave them to her and slept with her, and she became pregnant by him.
About three months later Judah was told, "Your daughter-in-law Tamar is guilty of prostitution, and as a result she is now pregnant." Judah said, "Bring her out and have her burned to death!" -Genesis 38:13-24


And I couldn't understand what David did to get Uriah's wife as his wife.

How could a God who hates wrong and hypocrisy tolerate this? Could this perhaps mean that mankind was helpless and hopeless in their wickedness without Christ having set an example? And if so, what was the purpose in all of God's laws if such alleged "men of God" couldn't obey them?

How strange. This kinda stuff makes it hard to debate with atheists sometimes.

"How could a God who hates wrong and hypocrisy tolerate this?"

Do you apply this to yourself or only to sins you perceive to be worse than your own? Does the Bible not say that failing to keep the law at one point means you are guilty of breaking all of it (James 2:10)? How could he tolerate any of our sin and even those who have pleasure in it and rejecting Him? But God is rich in mercy (Ephesians 2:4) and long suffering not wishing that any should perish (2 Peter 3:9).

So what's the purpose of the law?

Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:20 (NKJV)

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.” Romans 7:7 (NKJV)

I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” Galatians 2:21 (NKJV)

But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” Galatians 3:11 (NKJV)

Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Galatians 3:24 (NKJV)
 
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This is the third or fourth thread you've begun attacking men and women of the Bible. You 'demonstrate' they are sinful, prideful, wrong-headed and an embarrassment to God. (All of which is true, by the way; just like you.)

But you cannot understand - or even give token acknowledgement to God's overwhelming love and mercy.

Do you not grasp that God - presuming you have gone to him in surrender and faith - has already forgiven every sin you have ever committed, and every sin you will ever commit? It isn't like He doesn't know or suspect what sins you will commit tomorrow, or next week.

In like manner, God - through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ - counted all the sins of the people of the Bible - those who served Him - as Jesus' sins. They are simply forgiven.

Not that God didn't discipline sinners for their willful misdeeds. He still does, by the way.

So what's your point will all these threads questioning God's justice and judgement? I'm really curious about it.
 
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This is the third or fourth thread you've begun attacking men and women of the Bible. You 'demonstrate' they are sinful, prideful, wrong-headed and an embarrassment to God. (All of which is true, by the way; just like you.)


I'm really growing tired of your judgments. I will consider contacting both the website administers and perhaps God himself and then perhaps we'll see who is more righteous. I've already exposed prejudice in one of your prior posts. I hardly think you're in the right to judge me.

Do you not grasp that God - presuming you have gone to him in surrender and faith - has already forgiven every sin you have ever committed, and every sin you will ever commit? It isn't like He doesn't know or suspect what sins you will commit tomorrow, or next week.

I know this. You assume that I'm that ignorant about the scriptures, but you are ignorant of me. You assume this because you don't know my intentions in my inquisitions, another reason I don't believe you have a right to judge me.

The difference between me and a man like Judah, is that unlike Judah, though God may have forgiven me of all my sins and any other sin I may commit, I do not have the right to freely and deliberately sin. Such a thing cannot be forgiven on my part, esp since I have come to knowledge of the truth, just as it is written;

'If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,' -Hebrews 10:26

I suppose the difference between me and Judah however, is that I have one final sacrifice that has been made for my sins by the Lamb of God himself who died to take away my sins and if i were to continue to sin I would might as well be crucifying him all over again and putting him to shame.

But excuse me if I can help but shake my head at the immoral acts of some men of God. Don't get me wrong; I don't necessarily wanna doubt God's righteousness, but I must admit that such a thing certainly does amaze me that such a man could possibly be deemed worthy in the eyes of God, but if God did then I don't doubt he wasn't wrong for doing so, but perhaps all too compassionate and merciful.

I am content with the way things are today; come to Christ and let his love and your love for him act as a catalyst for your soul and the blood of Christ wash away your impurities and sins and sin no more, but follow Christ your Lord in his every footstep, and if you dare deliberately step of the path, you say goodbye to the Lord forever.

I just feel that's the way it should be and I'm surprised it was ever the other way around. Once again; it raises question as to what the law was for.
 
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If God just intervened and wiped out all who did something sinful there would be no human race...Adam and Eve would have been immediately smitten (all over...done deed)! God gave man dominion (under His ultimate Lordship) and free will...GOd does not go back on His word (He is faithful) then man gave over dominion to the one whom He obeyed and it was intended that in the fulness of time (when it was most appropriate) He would send forth His Son...the dominion had to be regained by a man (but one without sin)...
 
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Jesus and His disciples did not teach nor defend the o.t. because they did not believe it and neither should we.
They certainly did teach the OT. There are plenty of quotes from Jesus (and others) where He's referencing the OT. Where did you get such an idea?
 
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