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Which areas does this "Palestinian government" actually control?
Well a few weeks ago it was the Islamist speaker calling for violence on the temple mount. It is not about area of land, it is about influence over the Palestinian people and their actions. That leader should have been the first to be held to account for his leadership.
 
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Well a few weeks ago it was the Islamist speaker calling for violence on the temple mount. It is not about area of land, it is about influence over the Palestinian people and their actions. That leader should have been the first to be held to account for his leadership.

So, what you are saying is that the President should be held responsible for the actions of all members of parliament?
 
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I can see by now you do not wish to discuss any responsibility of the Palestinian leaders among their people. This in my opinion is part of the problem.

Should Netanyahu be held responsible for the actions of the dozens of Jews who called for the deaths of all Arabs in the recent street protests?
 
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LK, this is just a few articles on the truth about Palestine, Israel, etc.

I really recommend you watch "Israel Indivisible" and start watching CBN Newswatch if you want the truth from reliable Christian sources.

It's the best I've seen on clearly presenting the truth.

As long as you continue believing secular media, you'll be misinformed on what's going on.


Palestinian government declared 1988 by PLO.


State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Palestinian National Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Palestinian government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The United Nations General Assembly recognized Israel as a State in 1947, and was formally declared so in 1948.

Declaration of Establishment of State of Israel

Israeli Declaration of Independence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Declaration of Israel's Independence, 1948 . Truman . WGBH American Experience | PBS

Jerusalem Dateline Show: Israel Indivisible

'Indivisible' Film Tackles Crusade to Destroy Israel - Inside Israel - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com



The truth about a historical Palestine.

What is Palestine?

Rewriting History? P.A. Claims Ancient Shechem - Inside Israel - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

Palestinians Trying to 'Wipe Out Jewish History' - Inside Israel - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
 
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Should Netanyahu be held responsible for the actions of the dozens of Jews who called for the deaths of all Arabs in the recent street protests?
No equivalence in your argument.
Netanyahu himself did not call for violence
. Rather Netanyahu is an authority over those which DID. You expect Netanyahu to act as a just Authority. The same should be applied to leaders of the Palestinian people. But you appear so far to be unwilling to apply the same. Just as your above scenario is unequal. You can bet Netanyahu would be called to account for many things he himself did not say or do. But not so on the other side. This is some of the problem LK
 
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Protests are breaking out right now in Israel at the funeral of one of the young men in this tragedy.

What I find odd is that one of these boys was a 16 year old American. And yet Obama hasn't said a word. Not while they/he was missing. Nor even after they were all found dead. At least not that I can find.
I never heard one was an American. WOW!
 
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No equivalence in your argument.
Netanyahu himself did not call for violence
. Rather Netanyahu is an authority over those which DID. You expect Netanyahu to act as a just Authority. The same should be applied to leaders of the Palestinian people. But you appear so far to be unwilling to apply the same. Just as your above scenario is unequal. You can bet Netanyahu would be called to account for many things he himself did not say or do. But not so on the other side. This is some of the problem LK

Abbas himself did not call for violence. Rather Abbas is an authority over those which did.
 
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Abbas himself did not call for violence. Rather Abbas is an authority over those which did.




Here is what happened by the Government of Israel..... concerning street protests in Israel


The rally took place at a square in central Jerusalem where three
On Tuesday night, hundreds of right-wing extremists took to the streets of Jerusalem, shouting racist slogans and calling for revenge against Arabs. In once case, a mob of 100 Jews attacked three Palestinians, one of whom was evacuated to a hospital for a head wound. Undercover police who were there quickly intervened, moved the attackers back and arrested three of them. Overall, police arrested 50 Jews for involvement in the riots.



Enough said....... done here...
 
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Here is what happened by the Government of Israel..... concerning street protests in Israel


The rally took place at a square in central Jerusalem where three
On Tuesday night, hundreds of right-wing extremists took to the streets of Jerusalem, shouting racist slogans and calling for revenge against Arabs. In once case, a mob of 100 Jews attacked three Palestinians, one of whom was evacuated to a hospital for a head wound. Undercover police who were there quickly intervened, moved the attackers back and arrested three of them. Overall, police arrested 50 Jews for involvement in the riots.



Enough said....... done here...

What of the Palestinian boy brutally murdered in a suspected revenge attack? All we have heard so far from Israel is "a call for patience and not to jump to conclusions until the investigation is finished". (which of course is the most sensible thing to do in this situation)

What happened when those three Israeli teens were brutally murdered? Israel were quick to round up literally over a 100 Palestinians (including children) who had little or nothing to do with the attack and had them detained without even a trial or charge. Israel also destroyed several homes of those suspected in the murders.

Is that just to you? Do you think it's ok for a government to destroy the property of suspects without even giving them a fair trial? Do you think it's ok for a government to just lock up people without a charge?
 
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What of the Palestinian boy brutally murdered in a suspected revenge attack? All we have heard so far from Israel is "a call for patience and not to jump to conclusions until the investigation is finished". (which of course is the most sensible thing to do in this situation)
Ok so you agree with the governments response. They are responding that s the point.

What happened when those three Israeli teens were brutally murdered? Israel were quick to round up literally over a 100 Palestinians (including children) who had little or nothing to do with the attack and had them detained without even a trial or charge. Israel also destroyed several homes of those suspected in the murders.
Kidnap, and Murder vs rounding up suspects. What did the Palestinian GOVERNMENT DO ABOUT IT?
Is that just to you? Do you think it's ok for a government to destroy the property of suspects without even giving them a fair trial? Do you think it's ok for a government to just lock up people without a charge?
What justice did the Palestinian government attempt to provide? Did they assist in attempting to bring justice in finding kidnapped children? Did they assist in finding murderers? Why are you making Israel alone responsible for finding these boy's and finding the perps?
Now, seriously, I am done here. All this leads to with you is..... what ISRAEL DID. You simply Ignored what ISRAEL DID, and What the Palestinian government didn't do.
Done, oh so done here. This is the problem.......
 
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Kidnap, and Murder vs rounding up suspects. What did the Palestinian GOVERNMENT DO ABOUT IT?

You haven't answered any of my questions. Do you think it's just for Israel to imprison the Palestinians without a charge? Do you think it's fair to destroy Palestinians homes without a trial or actual evidence that they did commit the crime?

What justice did the Palestinian government attempt to provide? Did they assist in attempting to bring justice in finding kidnapped children? Did they assist in finding murderers? Why are you making Israel alone responsible for finding these boy's and finding the perps?
Now, seriously, I am done here. All this leads to with you is..... what ISRAEL DID. You simply Ignored what ISRAEL DID, and What the Palestinian government didn't do.
Done, oh so done here. This is the problem.......

Isn't Israel in control of West Bank?
 
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What of the Palestinian boy brutally murdered in a suspected revenge attack? All we have heard so far from Israel is "a call for patience and not to jump to conclusions until the investigation is finished". (which of course is the most sensible thing to do in this situation)

What happened when those three Israeli teens were brutally murdered? Israel were quick to round up literally over a 100 Palestinians (including children) who had little or nothing to do with the attack and had them detained without even a trial or charge. Israel also destroyed several homes of those suspected in the murders.

Is that just to you? Do you think it's ok for a government to destroy the property of suspects without even giving them a fair trial? Do you think it's ok for a government to just lock up people without a charge?


What government in the world would not have destroyed them completely for what they do everyday?


You think if Canada or Mexico started sending rockets to kill Americans everyday that our government would just sit there?


What if all Mexicans and all Canadians swore to kill all Americans?

What if their whole ideology was based on the complete genocide of all Americans, and they just started firing rockets all day long, or kidnapping and killing people just because they were American?

What?

Would you be some little girl saying,'' So what they want to kill all of us, so what, they want to fire rockets continually to kill us.''


If you were in charge of defense while watching rockets continually being fired from Mexico and Canada, what would you do?

What would you do to protect your people from nations who called for the genocide of all Americans?

What?


What kind of country doesn't stand up and defend themselves from people who want to commit genocide?


You are over here talking about a people who are committed to genocide of the Jewish people as if you have some sort of rational debate.

You don't.


All that land, and 100 times that much land was given to the Jewish state by the league of nations after they had witnessed what was done to the Jews.


And all though the Jews have given land for peace over and over and over, they are still not allowed just to live and breath.

After a holocaust that frightened the whole world from the gruesomeness we found in those camps, you still come here and think you have a rational debate.


It is beyond me that you think you can even compare Palestinian terrorist with the Jewish state.

What are you thinking?


I would sure hate to see somebody like you in defense.
 
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Zechariah 14 King James Version (KJV)

14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
 
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