You were the one trying to make a big deal out that. I just wanted you to back up the rhetoric. Doesn't look like you can.
If I can't, why haven't you addressed this:
http://www.christianforums.com/t7827988-27/#post65864768
If v.9 can be preached to unbelievers, why would you need proof that Paul did so? Paul wanted his kinsmen saved did he not? v.9 is what they must do and Paul preached in the synagogues right?
You rebuke me for posting too much on this and yet you still say I haven't succeeded in backing it up...
Inappropriate? For whom? The underlying assumption you hold here appears to be that the unsaved are neutral with regard to the Gospel, only needing information to make a decision about it. That is unbiblical in the extreme! Elsewhere you have admitted that no one will believe without the help of the Holy Spirit. You cannot have it both ways. Yet you seem to be trying to.
I wrote this:
It does present a problem for Calvinists. As a Calvinist you will tell those whom you deem non-elect to believe in Christ's resurrection which God never intended for their justification. That is inappropriate.
You didn't deal with it. I wasn't discussing total depravity or the need for the holy spirit.
Oh, so now we need a disclaimer? What kind of nonsense is this???
Saying it's nonsense without explaining why is not a rebuttal. Please try again.
You are enjoining belief in Christ's resurrection which is for 'our' justification (Romans 4:25) to those whom you say it was not intended for.
And unless the Holy Spirit opens their hearts and minds (via regeneration) they won't believe in the resurrection, or any of the rest of the Gospel, at least not in any salvific way. So what's yer problem?
This is the bit Paul NEVER said. Integrity says you must say it (when preaching) but Paul didn't - certainly not in the sense of unconditional election.
Paul quoted Moses who said it was, 'not too difficult or beyond your reach.'
Who was Moses talking to?
The letter is address to Roman Christians. Moses words were intended for Israelites. Paul was discussing Israelites.
Again with demanding that Calvinists provide a disclaimer...Horse-hockey!
Then some men you preach to are misled. That is a fact - v.9 will be, de facto, taken as an offer.
What do you mean by "salvifically irrelevant"? What part of the gospel is "salvifically irrelevant"???
If Christ did not die for a person then he did not resurrect unto justification for that person. For the individual concerned, it's salvifically irrelevant.
And yet you tell them to believe in the resurrection unto salvation. So did Paul.
Limited atonement cannot survive this anomaly.
Nor would he have if you had tried to tell him this baloney! His reply might have been along the lines of "Get thee behind...."
You haven't dealt with it yet.