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This is my last post here. I need a break. I feel like I wasted everyone's time as I did on the Ex-Christian site. they were nice to me as well, but they could do nothing about my mental agony. it's just words through the internet in the end. it only can do so much. I do not think I can go back to the Christian faith even if I was happy. I feel like the one Ex-Christian said to me about some years ago is right, do not think of it as a divorce, but think of it as you lost someone, meaning their is no chance of going back, though one can't say that with absolute certainty.

I believe based on some speculation that their is grand things out there, perhaps things that would perplex the best of human minds as said on the Ex-Christian site, but I just can't get myself to think the bible is the answer or Yahweh as some call God of the bible is the answer to mankind's questions. maybe there is a slight chance I been fooled, but in till then it is what is.:sigh:

As I said on the Ex-Christian forum in the end, I wasted the Ex-Christian guys time as I did with you guys as well. I cannot even fit in with them. it's like I'm a alien on this planet.

I say my final goodbyes to this site for now. I will close off private messaging since I will not post anymore.

Sorry.:sigh:

Peace Everyone.

John:sigh:

My hope and prayer for you is that God will become real to you and you will find the peace, insight and wisdom we all seek and that the narrow path will be a Light for your feet so you can see clearly and gain understanding and insight.

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I'm sorry I created another account. I did this with other sites as well. my OCD makes me do these things, so I think. I feel like I need to get rid of the account because I do not know when to stop replying back or I become obsessed with replying back over and over. I did this on the Ex-Christian site many years ago. just as I always have to send emails more then one time because I'm afraid they might not get there....weird stuff.

Anyway to get the other account back? my first account posted in the other last account has a lot of blessings, kinda want them, LOL

I will try to keep this. I hope I do not get banned, but I guess I could at this point.

My OCD, my social anxiety, constant living in fear, intrusive thoughts get the best of me.

My Grandam says it's the enemy, meaning Satan. she says are whole family needs a good prayer since we seen nightmare after nightmare. I told her to call her pastor to come over here and let him pray for us if he will still do it.

Please go easy on me even if you think I'm crazy.sorry:sorry:

I'm so afraid to take mental medications.:confused:

I did buy ginkgo biloba and 5-htp. natural stuff. I do not think it will work like some of the other stuff I have tried.

Anyone on here know what mental agony is and takes mental medications?

Maybe I have not given up just yet since I'm posting again on here. But I feel like I'm walking on thin ice as this point.

Sorry again:sorry:.

Thanks:wave:
 
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There is no place to go that the Lord will not be there. May you know the great love He has for you. We Christians, are just trying to get along as you. What we have in Christ is peace. What you desire for the world is peace. Allow Christ to be your peace. and you will have what you need to share with the world.
God bless, andrea

What is it like to have peace? I sometimes think such feelings or states are not possible.

I do not want to keep posting and posting. my OCD will not let me stop at times, I'm serious here.

Is there no cure for these said mental issues? is medication the only answer at this point? I sometimes I feel like my mood swings all over the place as well. I cannot stand it.

Take Care.
 
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Bless yer heart, praying for you.

What convinced you of Jesus being the way, not another way? I hope I do not post to much more in this topic. I'm just so alone and have been for years. it can alter your mind in many ways.

I hope others take no offense in this, but I feel many have not put any thought into why they believe in God or the Bible or Jesus in some way or form. Atheists call many Christians cultural Christians. some Christians I've seen have put some serious thought into it.

Does God mind if you question these things?

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He doesn't mind at all. He LOVES you.

However, i would not be able to convince you of the existence of God, and i wouldn't try. It's the Holy Spirit Who wins hearts, minds, and souls, not me or anyone else. Praying that He moves in your heart, mind, and soul as only He can.

My heart goes out to you, praying.
 
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There has to be some on here who are in mental agony and takes medications, it has before it least. many Christians on many mental forums I been on suffer these kinds of issues and take more then one because they suffer so badly. does anyone have any input on medication? I say this for good reasons. oh well.

Though my mind still is entangled and is all over the place because I been alone for so long, I still find it hard to think 2/3 of the world is doomed for simply not believing since they were born in the wrong or the wrong time period. also, if take my once hardcore stance, many Christians will hear I never knew you in the end, and some people use many verses how many Christians of today are in danger, some believe once saved always saved is false. I find it kinda ironic that many think they represents true Christianity, but another does not. I saw this before I came to this point. I still see all the indifference in what interpretation is true and what God is like. to say it does not matter is wrong since their would only be one interpretation if the bible is perfect, but many Christians do not think it is. my once best friend did not while I did think it was.

To me me it makes more sense for God to save all, infinite time, infinite chances, their is no need for eternal death or eternal hell. God would have %100% success rate, in least the Calvinistic view is true, then you have no choice in the end. very few uphold to this idea, but they are out there. I remember hearing Jonathan Edwards pieces....hard stuff to swallow.

I'm vastly curious if a soul is a natural thing as few have said it, but are understanding of reality is not as great as we like to think it is. nothing wrong with some speculation here, but I would get slapped around by people who understand physics and biology, LOL:D

Thanks for hearing me out.:wave:

PS- I'm the same person as the topic creator. read my profile page for more INFO.
 
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hi TruthAndPeace. Glad your stickin' around.....i hope you continue.....Your questions are precious.

Know what God invites all of us to do? To come and reason with Him:

"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." ~Isaiah 1:18

He LOVES you. He LOVES your questions.
 
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It seems no takers on mental medication, LOL.

Besides, praying, fellowship with other believers, reading the bible, what do you guys do keep your mind sharp? any takers on that? I'm more for the natural way since I rather take that way then have to resort to medications that failed in the past, but some people do benefit from them and I still might need them in the end. even if a small off ball chance it's all a placebo effect as some have said or their own will power, better then to suffer in some these cases I've seen.

Again, as I'm still the original topic creator, please pray for my 2 other brothers, Michael and CJ. they need it a lot, perhaps more then I do.

Peace:)
 
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Not sure what to say about the meds, as i have no expertise on any of them....

yes, praying for your brothers Michael and CJ....

I see.

what do you do to keep your mind sharp? any tips you can give me? herbs, work-out, I do not know.

Thanks for your understanding:wave:
 
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What is it like to have peace? I sometimes think such feelings or states are not possible.

I do not want to keep posting and posting. my OCD will not let me stop at times, I'm serious here.

Is there no cure for these said mental issues? is medication the only answer at this point? I sometimes I feel like my mood swings all over the place as well. I cannot stand it.

Take Care.
Years ago I had an OCD, trichoiliamania ( I was 3/4 bald bc I pulled my hair out. I had been dx as bi-polar, ADHD, PTSD, depression with suicidal ideation, with a seizure disorder and GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). i was on 8 medications 3-4 times a day and in therapy 4x a week.
15 years I take a little medication when necessary, I could go with none. I was on no meds for at least 10 years, until I got this new job and experienced some serious anxiety. I went numb over part of my body and had to be hospitalized bc they thought it was a stroke. But thats all gone again and I am fine.
I no longer have mood problems or seizures and I have a very full head of long hair. No depression and no thoughts of suicide.
I give a lot of my testimony in my blog posts Andrea | Pro 31 Women's Compendium

It really is about giving it to Jesus. Everyday, think about how much He loves you just the way you are... and believe for His will to be released into your life. Guess what, you've tried it your way... it didn't give you what you wanted. Try it His way.
When you sin, ask for forgiveness, realize how big a work the cross is... God who spoke the universe into existence comes down and lives as a man and dies as a man for you... it was and is a very big deal. Allow yourself to be loved by Him, accept His love, His grace and repent for your unbelief.
So what if you are crazy. God loved me while I was crazy. He doesn't love me more now. I'm happier now but not more saved.
Go find some fellowship, tell them the truth about yourself, ask for prayer and for the Lord to forgive you and baptize you in His Holy Spirit. He has promised to not refuse anyone who calls out to Him.
He isn't like tv on Demand, when you ask the Lord into your life... He will decide what and how you need Him, but life is too short to waste it thinking of dying. Just envelope yourself in His love and grace.... find fellowship with believers who are willing to love you where you are at.... not just when you get better.
Don't be afraid to get counseling, mental health is just like your physical health. Sometimes God uses doctors and medications. It doesn't matter if you don't like it... you need to try something besides doing it your way simply bc your way is not working.
Prayers, andrea

PS: The fact that your brothers have serious problems also is all the more reason to accept Christ and go to counseling. As you get better it will show them how to get better. Sounds like a deeply dysfunctional childhood. No reason to remove the FUN from dysFUNctional but it often needs to be addressed to move forward.
 
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Years ago I had an OCD, trichoiliamania ( I was 3/4 bald bc I pulled my hair out. I had been dx as bi-polar, ADHD, PTSD, depression with suicidal ideation, with a seizure disorder and GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). i was on 8 medications 3-4 times a day and in therapy 4x a week.
15 years I take a little medication when necessary, I could go with none. I was on no meds for at least 10 years, until I got this new job and experienced some serious anxiety. I went numb over part of my body and had to be hospitalized bc they thought it was a stroke. But thats all gone again and I am fine.
I no longer have mood problems or seizures and I have a very full head of long hair. No depression and no thoughts of suicide.
I give a lot of my testimony in my blog posts

It really is about giving it to Jesus. Everyday, think about how much He loves you just the way you are... and believe for His will to be released into your life. Guess what, you've tried it your way... it didn't give you what you wanted. Try it His way.
When you sin, ask for forgiveness, realize how big a work the cross is... God who spoke the universe into existence comes down and lives as a man and dies as a man for you... it was and is a very big deal. Allow yourself to be loved by Him, accept His love, His grace and repent for your unbelief.
So what if you are crazy. God loved me while I was crazy. He doesn't love me more now. I'm happier now but not more saved.
Go find some fellowship, tell them the truth about yourself, ask for prayer and for the Lord to forgive you and baptize you in His Holy Spirit. He has promised to not refuse anyone who calls out to Him.
He isn't like tv on Demand, when you ask the Lord into your life... He will decide what and how you need Him, but life is too short to waste it thinking of dying. Just envelope yourself in His love and grace.... find fellowship with believers who are willing to love you where you are at.... not just when you get better.
Don't be afraid to get counseling, mental health is just like your physical health. Sometimes God uses doctors and medications. It doesn't matter if you don't like it... you need to try something besides doing it your way simply bc your way is not working.
Prayers, andrea

PS: The fact that your brothers have serious problems also is all the more reason to accept Christ and go to counseling. As you get better it will show them how to get better. Sounds like a deeply dysfunctional childhood. No reason to remove the FUN from dysFUNctional but it often needs to be addressed to move forward.

I come from a very dysfunctional family, my whole family has seen a nightmare and beyond. I was abused very badly during my child hood, but it still pales next to the stress I deal with now. my own best friends at that time did many bad things to me and they made me cry continually. my own cousins picked on me even if they're decent people now.

It seems you beat generalized anxiety disorder and depression, you which you claim with the help of Jesus made it go away. I see. I have GAD and depression, there is little doubt about that. so you would understand me better then some. on that many medications....how the heck did your brain work still?

You made some good points.

Thanks:wave:

PS- When your best friend of all time, the last one I had left, betrays you badly and steals $4400$ from you, lies to your face, you show forgiveness and compassion still, you still get the dagger. it hurt me so badly. it's hard to trust people more then ever before. this happened almost 4 years ago. The summer of 1997 I meet him and August of 2010 was the demise of are friendship.
 
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I come from a very dysfunctional family, my whole family has seen a nightmare and beyond. I was abused very badly during my child hood, but it still pales next to the stress I deal with now. my own best friends at that time did many bad things to me and they made me cry continually. my own cousins picked on me even if they're decent people now.

It seems you beat generalized anxiety disorder and depression, you which you claim with the help of Jesus made it go away. I see. I have GAD and depression, there is little doubt about that. so you would understand me better then some. on that many medications....how the heck did your brain work still?

You made some good points.

Thanks:wave:

PS- When your best friend of all time, the last one I had left, betrays you badly and steals $4400$ from you, lies to your face, you show forgiveness and compassion still, you still get the dagger. it hurt me so badly. it's hard to trust people more then ever before. this happened almost 4 years ago. The summer of 1997 I meet him and August of 2010 was the demise of are friendship.

forgiveness.... sets you free. I found that as long as I held onto my anger and unforgiveness I was giving those people who had hurt me the same power to continue to hurt me. When I let them go, I released myself.
Only when I forgave could I realize why Christ said, if you want to be forgiven you must forgive. In order to be set free you must let go or you will carry that pain with you like a piece of baggage you yourself refuse to put down. Complaining how awful it is but refusing to let it go.

Your best friend stole from you, mine was murdered. I would prefer to have to forgive someone than grieve them.

I don't know if you'll be set free from GAD, I know your life will be better in Christ.
My father was a pedophile, my mother an alcoholic. She in particular did not like me, I was 11th of 15 children. It seemed that I represented something to her, maybe the truth. IDK. I could not forgive her for most of my life until Jesus told me I didn't need to forgive her, I needed to allow myself to love her. I was set free to love her.
My father .... I can't even remember the last time I thought of him, it is sad, he died alone. All those children and not one wanted him. He was a sad human being, how can I be bothered to even have anything but sympathy for him.

You see the Lord has given me a wonderful husband, a kind and sensitive daughter, we are a happy and whole family but not until I was willing to look at the pain, take responsibility for my unforgiveness and be set free, that we could become a healthy and whole family. Only after my own daughter tried to commit suicide was I willing to do what ever it took to find happiness... that meant being honest about myself and that was not easy. It was necessary. Today we have broken the cycle of abuse and dysfunction...

It was a long journey but it has allowed me to grow into someone who empathizes with others and understands what it takes to climb out of a lifetime of pain.
Today life is good, it always was more about my own perspective then about my conditions. There is joy no matter where you are at if you are willing to receive it....

LOL... I have not shared the worst so believe me we can go toe to toe for pain and heartbreak and I'm still going to say, it is a choice. Choose Christ. :prayer:

God bless, andrea
 
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forgiveness.... sets you free. I found that as long as I held onto my anger and unforgiveness I was giving those people who had hurt me the same power to continue to hurt me. When I let them go, I released myself.
Only when I forgave could I realize why Christ said, if you want to be forgiven you must forgive. In order to be set free you must let go or you will carry that pain with you like a piece of baggage you yourself refuse to put down. Complaining how awful it is but refusing to let it go.

Your best friend stole from you, mine was murdered. I would prefer to have to forgive someone than grieve them.

I don't know if you'll be set free from GAD, I know your life will be better in Christ.
My father was a pedophile, my mother an alcoholic. She in particular did not like me, I was 11th of 15 children. It seemed that I represented something to her, maybe the truth. IDK. I could not forgive her for most of my life until Jesus told me I didn't need to forgive her, I needed to allow myself to love her. I was set free to love her.
My father .... I can't even remember the last time I thought of him, it is sad, he died alone. All those children and not one wanted him. He was a sad human being, how can I be bothered to even have anything but sympathy for him.

You see the Lord has given me a wonderful husband, a kind and sensitive daughter, we are a happy and whole family but not until I was willing to look at the pain, take responsibility for my unforgiveness and be set free, that we could become a healthy and whole family. Only after my own daughter tried to commit suicide was I willing to do what ever it took to find happiness... that meant being honest about myself and that was not easy. It was necessary. Today we have broken the cycle of abuse and dysfunction...

It was a long journey but it has allowed me to grow into someone who empathizes with others and understands what it takes to climb out of a lifetime of pain.
Today life is good, it always was more about my own perspective then about my conditions. There is joy no matter where you are at if you are willing to receive it....

LOL... I have not shared the worst so believe me we can go toe to toe for pain and heartbreak and I'm still going to say, it is a choice. Choose Christ. :prayer:

God bless, andrea

I see. you have suffered way worse then I have. you must to had to endure all sorts of pain in which you did not deserve.

Thanks for hearing me out. someone like you that's been through very tough times would understand me better then others.

Take Care:)

PS- My mind needs a break and rest, it truly does since it's become so chaotic.
 
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