Background on 2P2P and "other Gospels" in Gal and 2 Cor

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Much of Paul's contest was with 2P2P in Judaism. Judaism had decided to replace the mankind-wide promise to Abraham. That promise was as wide as Gen 3:16. But Judaism grew to replace and void it with only those particulars that were about them (Gal 3:17). When the request by Christ and the apostles to be missionaries to the nations came, Judaism was like a deer staring at headlights. Both the content and method of the promise were at risk.

We have pretty much got used to reading the NT without awareness of this contest with Judaism. Or it has been turned into an issue of 'grace vs works,' which does not capture the totality. Paul said there were not other gospels in Gal 3, and he said that , there, because Judaizers would go around with others that were Israel-centric. He was dealing with the edge of that right there at Gal, and they were going to rupture that group into Judeo-centric believers with the proper circumcision vs others, to recieve the (mistaken) promises. Paul debates them on both the method and content of promise reception.

2 Cor also has this background. The "impostles" (impostor apostles) were Judaizers. They were not workers for the new covenant, but still trying to spread the 'gospel' of the old which was running on fumes by that time (ch 3-4). He has to refer to other gospels again: those with their other spirits/Jesuses/gospels are Jews (11:22) but have the old covenant's content, not God-was-in-Christ settling the debt of sin. 11:3 expresses the same fear as Gal 3:1. Satan's cunning and bewitchment.
 

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Hi all
and Hi again Interplanner,

What does "2P2P" mean?

I have seen this term used by you in several of your posts and could not find it from a google browse which is why I felt I should ask.

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PS – Thank you for tireless efforts in Jesus' and our behalf as one of His holy
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[+: Holiness defined via scripture is - - "set apart for service" to "all" of mankind, and the Trinity does this without favoritism so that eventually 1 John 3:8b+ would be fulfilled in the earth as more "believers" would become "Holy" disciples of Jesus.]

At this late date my strongest impression-concern for this "very" late hour, is that America and the world "direly" needs many many good-anointed, Christ-like, sacrificially-holy and persuasive Jonahs to begin to rise up on Pentecost Sunday in order to avert the cataclysmic economic Mystery Babylon “judgments” that throughout my soul I "know" are on the verge of occurring immediately after the economic Harbinger of 13 Sep 2015 occurs <>https://www.google.com/search?q=Harbinger+of+13+Sep+2015<> “IF” more “believers” would not “openly” and “obviously” repent as 2Chronicles 7:14 encouraged in past ages, and would convert away from their hard hearts and stiff necks and from their own covetousness and Laodicean idolatries in this hour.

Eventually everything that occurs would inevitably glorify
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our Shekhinah Creator God for His own sacrificial and tireless efforts within each church and city in our land and throughout our world, but some painful chastening may be necessary for more “Christians” within cult groups to be taught to repent-convert and to fight the battles with “covetousness” that must not only be fought in this life but also throughout our eternal-life to come.

The covetousness promoted by Beelzebub, Gog and Magog will have eventually been seen as the root of all evil within our Lord's vast creation. [1Timothy 6:10]

[*:<>John 15:8 - - Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
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2Chronicles 7:14 - - If my people, . . . will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and heal . . .
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Will it have been an eternal shame to us all that most American Evangelical churches dogmatically teach the scriptures in such a way that it promotes strong political pressures to NOT think very deeply concerning any other much-more “obvious” interpretations and doctrines that are true and could become “more” eternally fruitful than the doctrines- of- men that are already being taught?[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]So that each generation should have been taught to resist-expose evil tares and doctrines, and to separate oneself from the presence of obviously prideful or carnal men, so that converting believers might more easily grow in their grace and knowledge of the Lord and in their holiness [+] towards their Eternal Creator and “all” others.[/FONT]

And so like other cultures who were “suddenly” “chastened” in the decades or ages past, I do not “know” if there are enough virtuous, faith-filled and faithful Berean type “believers” in America and the world that have a “similar” heart as my own to work towards accomplishing the task to “turn” America and the world from its becoming a much more "obvious" slave-servant to the various Mystery Babylonian Empires that our Shekhinah Creator Father God has “allowed” Beelzebub, Gog and Magog to have created throughout the world that currently exists in this pivotal hour.

Since after almost an entire year of tireless efforts so few in this highly skilled and focused forum have “obviously” repented, so that my own “best” efforts might have been eternally “obvious” to have been similar to a Jeremiah rather than a Jonah.

Yet I know that our all powerful God of love and peace is able to radically change our world through a rare-few "believers" IF "more" of us angel-saints-in-training would give "their" life with all of their heart, mind, soul and strength to the immediate tasks at hand and would be willing to be sifted and trained to bear good eternal fruit within themselves and into others.

God bless you for your own efforts to be like a Jonah rather than a Jeremiah.

SEE ><> http://www.christianforums.com/t7821651-3/#post65755395 <><
AND ><> http://www.christianforums.com/t7824918-2/#post65746671 <><
AND ><> http://www.christianforums.com/users/333908/ <><

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Again God Bless you.

Into Jesus' love - we should all put our trust eternally,
AJCServant
John 10 & 15 & 17 & Revelation 21
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PPS -


This next thread-link was forwarded from a previous post {quicklink below} that questioned:


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What happens next if during the 4th blood moon "only" Jerusalem would photograph a day-star?
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Matthew 24:27 - - For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Could there be seven very very difficult years that could come upon America because no-one will rise up to stand in the gap for the American Church and for their culture??????[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Simply due to its Evangelical leaders who would not, or could not, repent of their corporate complacency to rightly-divide and to then “correct” doctrines- of- men within America's Churches??????[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Please consider again:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]2Chronicles 7:14 - - If my people, . . . will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and heal . . .[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Will it have been an eternal shame to us all that most American Evangelical churches dogmatically teach the scriptures in such a way that it promotes strong political pressures to NOT think very deeply concerning any other much-more “obvious” interpretations and doctrines that are true and could become “more” eternally fruitful than the doctrines- of- men that are already being taught??????[/FONT]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot the missionary.[/FONT]

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Matthew 4:19 - -
Come, follow me, Jesus said, and I will send you out to fish for men.

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]PPPS - Any further "edifying", "wholesome" and helpful comments anyone?[/FONT]
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Hi all,
and Hi again Interplanner,

I apologize for hijacking your efforts for these moments.

The CF key word search helped me answer my question when I found this thread:

Support 2P2P - - 4th May 2014, 09:03 PM - - Please present support for 2 Peoples / 2 Programs in the Bible.

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Again, God Bless you.

Into Jesus' love - we should all put our trust eternally,
AJCServant
John 10 & 15 & 17 & Revelation 21
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Yes that thread. Now for an update. This idea was introduced by Judaism, and Paul felt the need to respond to it in Gal 3. He would not have written v17 unless (a separation of 2 people, programs) was foreign ideas introduced by Judaism that weren't supposed to be there. We know they had a huge problem with it in Jesus and Paul's time. We know it is the issue in Jn 8 on Abraham's children.
 
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