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When I observe the tragedies happening around the world it weakens any faith I had. People always says God is our hope but it seems like we have to make it through life and pain alone. I have lost hope for myself in my ways. I can't get rid of feelings of worthlessness. I hate the father God gave me he chose drugs instead of being a father. I'm a mistake but it wasn't God's will for the relationship between my mom and the sperm donor she chose. I am worthless and because of that I need to give up any dreams of finding love and having children. I work with kids as a substitute teacher and I would really appreciate the chance to be a mother. But based on the type of men that I attract which care nothing about me only what they can get out of me, I know that I could never attract a Christian man, so my hopes for marriage and children are gone. I know there must be something flawed in me that attracts evil men.

There was a book I saw online that talked about 4 dreams a woman has of being beautiful, being a daddy's girl, being a bride and mother. She also had a chapter on living with shattered dreams. I'm quite sure all of my dreams will be shattered, I already have 2 marked off, being beautiful and having a father. I've tried to look to God as a father but I can't reach him, I have very weak faith and instead if trusting him I always question him in my mind. My so called Christian walk has been a disaster since the day I accepted Christ.


Do even of you agree that I'm worthless? Isn't it evident? The only thing I have succeeded in was school but now I don't think I have a good chance of being accepted into a physician assistant program. I know that if I get rejected it will really crush me. I'm sorry if I'm complaining too much but everyday I live with this sense of worthlessness and lack.
 

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No one is more worthless than me. So, I win....:)

Seriously though, You are being too impatient knw.....You are so young and talking like you are 98.

You are not worthless. What about all those kids you help? You are also pretty, intelligent and just need to understand you are falling for those lying voices in your head.

Your day will come. I keep promising you that.

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Thank you Jim. You're not worthless. Thank you for your encouragement. I just see so many others my age that are in relationships and I wonder what's wrong with me and I judge my worth based on the weirdos who have approached me. I guess I'm defining my worth by them but it's hard not to. I find myself always defining my worth based on the choices my father made and how people treat me.
 
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I have no purpose to live either but I stick around, I don't know why either.

You stop! Both of you!

Now, let's pray all of us together (you can repeat when you read this).

Dear Lord, I pray for the many hurting people on Christian Forums. We know Lord that you have a purpose for each of us in your kingdom, but with depression it gets so hard. We know Lord that one day you will wipe away every tear, that you are with us here as we live, never leaving us and never forsaking us. Sometimes Lord we do get weak. We are weak. Please Jesus carry us during our times of weakness. Give our hearts peace and love and may we feel your presence with us as we each go through our daily struggles. May we recognize and look for your comfort and rest. We know in you we can find rest, but we must look for that. It is a spiritual thing. You renew our hearts and minds. Thank you for all our blessings. Please have mercy on each of us struggling with depression and take some of it away. Forever. We ask this in the name of your Son, Jesus Christ. Amen.
 
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No one is more worthless than me. So, I win....:)

Seriously though, You are being too impatient knw.....You are so young and talking like you are 98.

You are not worthless. What about all those kids you help? You are also pretty, intelligent and just need to understand you are falling for those lying voices in your head.

Your day will come. I keep promising you that.

Praying
Jim

You stop too!

Pray the prayer above. We'll all pray for each other. List your own prayer below and I will pray again.
 
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The Answer to Feelings of Unworthiness

In the end, it is love--and especially the infinite, unconditional, forgiving love of God our heavenly Father--that creates in us a feeling of value and worth. If Jesus, God's Son, went to the cross for us, surely we are worthy. If Christ died so that we might live with God forever in a heavenly home, surely we have value. If God created us, redeemed us, and desires to call us His children forever, surely we are of great importance to Him.

The answer to feelings of unworthiness is love. An always-and-forever kind of love. A love that is based not upon what a person does, but upon who a person is--a beloved child of almighty God.

Charles Stanley
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You stop! Both of you!

Now, let's pray all of us together (you can repeat when you read this).

Dear Lord, I pray for the many hurting people on Christian Forums. We know Lord that you have a purpose for each of us in your kingdom, but with depression it gets so hard. We know Lord that one day you will wipe away every tear, that you are with us here as we live, never leaving us and never forsaking us. Sometimes Lord we do get weak. We are weak. Please Jesus carry us during our times of weakness. Give our hearts peace and love and may we feel your presence with us as we each go through our daily struggles. May we recognize and look for your comfort and rest. We know in you we can find rest, but we must look for that. It is a spiritual thing. You renew our hearts and minds. Thank you for all our blessings. Please have mercy on each of us struggling with depression and take some of it away. Forever. We ask this in the name of your Son, Jesus Christ. Amen.

Thanks for your prayer sister.
 
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When I observe the tragedies happening around the world it weakens any faith I had. People always says God is our hope but it seems like we have to make it through life and pain alone. I have lost hope for myself in my ways. I can't get rid of feelings of worthlessness. I hate the father God gave me he chose drugs instead of being a father. I'm a mistake but it wasn't God's will for the relationship between my mom and the sperm donor she chose. I am worthless and because of that I need to give up any dreams of finding love and having children. I work with kids as a substitute teacher and I would really appreciate the chance to be a mother. But based on the type of men that I attract which care nothing about me only what they can get out of me, I know that I could never attract a Christian man, so my hopes for marriage and children are gone. I know there must be something flawed in me that attracts evil men.

There was a book I saw online that talked about 4 dreams a woman has of being beautiful, being a daddy's girl, being a bride and mother. She also had a chapter on living with shattered dreams. I'm quite sure all of my dreams will be shattered, I already have 2 marked off, being beautiful and having a father. I've tried to look to God as a father but I can't reach him, I have very weak faith and instead if trusting him I always question him in my mind. My so called Christian walk has been a disaster since the day I accepted Christ.


Do even of you agree that I'm worthless? Isn't it evident? The only thing I have succeeded in was school but now I don't think I have a good chance of being accepted into a physician assistant program. I know that if I get rejected it will really crush me. I'm sorry if I'm complaining too much but everyday I live with this sense of worthlessness and lack.

My father was an abusive alcoholic that beat me and beat my mother. I know what it's like to suffer at the hands of a father that is not a real father.

My mother divorced my father and took me to another country where I grew up as a foreigner. I couldn't speak the language. Meanwhile, my mother, who had the opportunity to make a great life for herself, fell into the sin of self pity. Instead of using the resources available to her to make a good life for us, she chose to wallow in that self pity. She was a victim who blamed every single difficulty on the fact that she had a bad marriage. The, in turn, she abused me emotionally, expecting me, a child, to be her support system.

In her miserable self pity, my mother allowed her life to deteriorate. She pushed people away. She let herself go. Eventually, it was so awful to be around her that I fled from her and that country, and came back to my own country all alone.

All alone in an unfamiliar place, I also started to fall into the sin of self pity. Why was self pity my sin? Because it separated me from the God that I love. My self pity caused me to doubt His goodness. But because He is good, He allowed me to suffer in my self pity until a wonderful friend told me to knock it off and get real. As long as I was wallowing in feeling sorry for myself, she said, God would not move in my life. I had a choice: follow Him, or remain self centered, pitiful and miserable. It was my turning point.

I chose Him. I chose to believe in the God of the Bible. I chose to set aside my skewed, sick thinking, and rely on Him. I chose to hold onto Him as though my life depended on it....because it did.

I know pain, and I know suffering. My 12 year old daughter died in my arms after being horribly disabled her whole life. That qualifies me to talk about suffering.

I understand that you are suffering as well. But you are choosing to allow the sin of self pity to overtake you, and as my friend told me, I will tell you: God will not move in your life as long as you make your self pity your God. When you choose your misery over Him, that is where you will stay. My mother did that and became completely emotionally crippled, pushing every single person who cared for her away from her. She created her own hell and refused to leave.

I did not go in that path. I chose to accept the call of our loving Father. He changed my life, and comforted me as I sent my precious little girl into His arms.

You say that you think He chose you to suffer. Really? I think not. He allowed this to happen so that you could overcome and become a blessing to others. But if you insist on calling yourself worthless because you had a dud for a father, then by extension, so are the rest of us. You cannot claim that God loves some and not you. That is not who He is. You cannot tell anyone else that God loves them with any credibility if you believe that you are worthless. He has told us, on no uncertain terms, that He loves every single one of His children. He did not say that there are some special cases that He torments just for the fun of it. No.... you have a challenge to face. You can choose to follow Him, to overcome, to be victorious, all in His strength Or, you can do what my mother did, and roll around in the muck of self pity. I understand the temptation to do that...if you do, you don't have to take responsibility. You can remain a victim and seek out people to feel sorry for you. But I promise you, that will never satisfy you.

Or you can choose life, and choose God. You have the opportunity to become a physician's assistant and make a difference in the lives of thousands. Or, you can just stay where you are. It is entirely up to you.

But I implore you...do not tell the lie that God doesn't care. Don't insult the Lord who laid down His life for you and me. Don't tell other people that God loves them while saying in the same breath that you are worthless. Because that is a lie from the pit of hell.

Self pity is the devil's favorite playground. It is the most insidious form of pride. It's where he can cripple God's people and render them useless for the Kingdom. We are called, as the children of the God most high, to put on the armor of God and not fall for it. We are not helpless victims. We are God's people called to push past difficulty and love others into the Kingdom. It is your choice which way you go. Which will you choose?
 
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Try to pray for God to alleviate the pain and suffering of people all over the world instead of losing faith. Try not to be too eager to marry and have kids. If you aren't careful you might end up marrying someone abusive and end up a single mom. Congratulations on getting a job. Even if you don't become a physician's assistant being an assistant teacher is a good profession. Imagine what you would feel like if you never succeeded at anything, including school? Feeling worthless comes with depression. It could be worse. It could always be worse. What are you basing your self worth on anyways?
 
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believe it or not every single person suffers from the same thing inside of themselves as you do. people go at it in all kinds of ways attempting to find true union with God. it does not matter if they believe God is real or not. it does not matter if they believe God hates them or not. everyone suffers the same affliction and trys to solve the problem in different ways, thinking they will be made whole by doing this or that. that is our side of it, the human part of the story. we saw glimpses of the story with our hard hearts and blind eyes when we saw God come to the world and eventually dying for the sake of humanity. now we must realize that we all have God suffering inside of us and all of humanity is in travail in slowly giving birth to God. it is as if we are for the most part walking in darkness and we don't really know what to do and so we attempt to forever struggle on with this travailing of giving birth. humanity not only wishes to enter into the rest of the seventh day, but to be part of the creation of the eighth day. but we don't know how to bring out this endless desire of love that is inside of us and this is the only thing we go about trying to do. and God waits and watches in expectation, for he has veiled from himself and from us what shall happen so that we may both rejoice together in this walk...

love demands so much out of us all. we ourselves demand so much. each person desires to both give and receive real love, but real love is still such a confusing thing to us and a mystery so grand that it even justifies evils existence for a time.

words alone can not solve our problems just as much as concepts of the idealized "love" or "good life" or " God" or "truth" or whatever else we want to call this thing we want... neither can anything at all make us complete but God alone and this is why we struggle and suffer so much. we have such a hard time in this world where it does not look like God is with us at all. I honestly tell God "why don't you just come as a person so i can really hold on to you and love you, you are the only one that can truly know me and be with me to the degree that i desire and yet you deny me of yourself for some reason. without you I don't even know how to love another person"

I truly wish I could find this love I seek in another person here in this world but from what i have experienced and learned from others, humanity relationships kind of feel like dust through my hands compared to the solid thing I want that is God. my sufferings are not eased, that is, they are not eased by the possibility of having my love compete in finding a good friend or a mate or in physical satisfaction or in having children... it only increases the pangs of true love. but I must have this true love and I think every single person says the same thing in spirit and strives for it as much as they can. I hope we may all truly be overflowed with real love, complete and whole love, in whatever way that it is supposed to take shape... we are each unique because God love each of us uniquely.

we can't really live without the comfort that God promised to give us. truly we will not find solutions on the outside of us, because God is inside of us. it does not mean that the outside is bad, it just means we must find that stable peace on the inside of us to also have it on the outside. we may not always be able to get what we want from things outside of us but we are ourselves on the inside and we can have or can gain some kind of control over what we are more than what others are to us. we can be something to others even if they are not what we want to self. we can change our own perspective about how people are to us and in doing so we accept healing from God to some degree as we willingly and freely love and forgive we find we draw out that thing in us that we so desperately want for ourselves. let love grow in our hearts that we might have our burden eased. sometimes the very pain we feel is proof that love is in us. we have but to realize that we do love and thus we torture ourselves for thinking we do not love God enough or that God does not love us enough. it is a struggle for each of us to love, to truly be ourselves, each a different color of the love of God. to love a person in the highest sense is to also love God. if we are truly Gods love and Gods beloved then everything is fine, if we are not then everything is hell and nothing can truly solve our problems though we will have to direct our pain in some direction regardless. this is not an easy struggle each of us has...


i'm just thinking out loud and expressing my feelings and thoughts and desires... i feel it is good to try to talk and feel things out, it helps to attempt to reach for the good when we struggle. don't stop at "I feel worthless" try to pour out everything of your mind and heart to yourself or God or even others. you might find solutions that you did not know you had, you might find some kind of comfort that you did not expect. I think that one of the most helpful things to me is to attempt to be open and honest to God and myself about what i feel and what i think and desire and to search into myself.... attempting to find the truth that is hidden inside of me. trying to view aspects of me in that are still in the dark, that i might rejoice at what God made of me even if no one else notices, it does not have to stop me from loving others and seeing good in people, for I know God is good to all of us. every puppy and kitty reveals this fact plainly.
 
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You are not worthless. And I've seen you so you can't tell me you're not beautiful either, because I know that you are!

Please don't base your worth on how your father has treated you, or the circumstances you find yourself in. You're worth so much more than your genes or your circumstances. You are worthy because Jesus has made you worthy, it's not about you it's about Him.

I know that it's hard to feel like you're doing okay when you are measuring your success on what the world looks at as successful: marriage, career, finances etc. You don't need any of those things to prove your worthiness to God or to make you successful. You just need to trust that God sees the bigger picture and that when the time is right the right person will come along.


Praying that you get into the program you want to :prayer::hug::hug:
 
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You are not worthless. And I've seen you so you can't tell me you're not beautiful either, because I know that you are!

Please don't base your worth on how your father has treated you, or the circumstances you find yourself in. You're worth so much more than your genes or your circumstances. You are worthy because Jesus has made you worthy, it's not about you it's about Him.

I know that it's hard to feel like you're doing okay when you are measuring your success on what the world looks at as successful: marriage, career, finances etc. You don't need any of those things to prove your worthiness to God or to make you successful. You just need to trust that God sees the bigger picture and that when the time is right the right person will come along.


Praying that you get into the program you want to :prayer::hug::hug:

I wish I would have said that, but so glad that you did! :clap:
 
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