Ice melt in part of Antarctica 'appears unstoppable,' NASA says

Supreme said:

This is going to sound *really* selfish, but I just can't bring myself to care. This is problem for my descendants hundreds of years down the line. Don't really see the need for me to do anything about it when it's not going to affect me or anyone I know.

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Well I have wonder what they plan to do with the rest of the world that isn't buying into the 'we are killing our world' - and polluting away.

Is it that they think ONE country will save the rest of the world? That the changes will only happen on their part of the globe - and our part of the world will be fine? lol since we were all so NICE to it!

If it was indeed 'fact' the way they present it? They wouldn't be attacking the 'deniers', but the polluter's. They had a listing a couple of weeks ago online showing the top polluter's in the world, and the USA didn't even make the top 10.

The fact the gusto behind all this isn't going towards them - but instead those that aren't buying into it? Frankly, makes me wonder how serious this issue is to them as well. They are drop in the ocean, and makes the whole case look even more silly.

I'll pay closer attention once they go after - and force change on them. They are pretty much spinning their wheels until they do. I mean one small section of the entire globe isn't going to save it. No doubt - lead by example right? We have and did...next!

GarfieldJL said:

Far less bad than they would be when people are running around in a blind panic (which is what Global Warming Alarmists are trying to get people to do).

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I see you won't answer the question.

It is easy to hand-wave consequences you won't even articulate.

Supreme said:

This is going to sound *really* selfish, but I just can't bring myself to care. This is problem for my descendants hundreds of years down the line. Don't really see the need for me to do anything about it when it's not going to affect me or anyone I know.

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Tragedy of the Commons baby!

AirPo said:

Seems some of the more dire predictions are becoming more of a reality.



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Paleoclimatology very clearly shows that for the vast majority of the earth's history there was no ice at either pole. Antarctica was, for most of the world's history, heavily forested with abundant wildlife. Why is it supposed by so many that a return to such a climate is "dire"?

StephanieSomer said:

Paleoclimatology very clearly shows that for the vast majority of the earth's history there was no ice at either pole. Antarctica was, for most of the world's history, heavily forested with abundant wildlife. Why is it supposed by so many that a return to such a climate is "dire"?

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Most of the land masses today fall between 40 degrees north and 40 degrees south. Most of the poorest populations live in that region. If Antarctica was suddenly verdant (which it wouldn't be) would the 2.5 billion people living between the 40s move there?

Context is important.

USincognito said:

Most of the land masses today fall between 40 degrees north and 40 degrees south. Most of the poorest populations live in that region. If Antarctica was suddenly verdant (which it wouldn't be) would the 2.5 billion people living between the 40s move there?

Context is important.

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No. There would be no need. The same evidence of the climate in Antarctica showed the climate in the temperate zones had moved slightly further from the equator of where they now sit. And the tropic zone was a few degrees wider than now. There is no catastrophe coming at our own hands from the climate. In reality, the end result would be an expansion of the temperate zones worldwide, and an almost elimination of the polar climates.

StephanieSomer said:

No. There would be no need. The same evidence of the climate in Antarctica showed the climate in the temperate zones had moved slightly further from the equator of where they now sit. And the tropic zone was a few degrees wider than now. There is no catastrophe coming at our own hands from the climate. In reality, the end result would be an expansion of the temperate zones worldwide, and an almost elimination of the polar climates.

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O.k. I can stop taking you seriously at this point.

MSM Pushes Doomsday Arctic Ice Sheet Propaganda

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Antarctic Sea Ice Sets Another Record – For Most Ice Ever This Time of Year

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USincognito said:

O.k. I can stop taking you seriously at this point.

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As is your prerogative.

Alex Jones needs help. I don't know what sort of help, but he needs help.

I watched his Youtube video of Dallas Police Department supposedly "cracking down" on his minions during the 2013 JFK observance. His minions basically yelled in the faces of the cops for an hour and when they tried to break out of an area designated for protests meant to disrupt the dignified observance of the assassination they were dealt with accordingly.

I also watched him take Jesse Ventura to a "FEMA death camp" in Taylor, Texas for the Conspiracy Theory program. There was just one mistake they made - they showed the name of the location in question. The "T. Don Hutto" facility has not one, but at least three (ICE, corporate and Wikipedia) pages describing in detail what the facility is actually for.

Alex Jones can't be trusted to predict lightning during a thunderstorm at this point.

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Lollerskates said:

Alex Jones is a misinformation agent - paid to mix truth with lies. Most developed countries hire these types of shills to cause confusion, disdain, ridicule and abhorrence of real truth. China just spent plenty of money hiring shills to combat people online exposing atrocities. It is big business.

You can be sure he is an agent because he is not dead. Real whistle blowers with real damaging evidence are "suicided." For example, William Cooper and 9/11. Alex Jones is still alive because he isn't telling the whole truth, and is not a threat. He is also rich. Snowden is also a misinformation agent. They want people to known their sinister activity so there is a challenge. People that believe their lies they treat as not evolutionarily advanced enough to contend with anyway. That includes scoffers.

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Alex Jones is a professing Christian and you might want to watch how you talk about Fellow Christians.
Your accusations are unfound and not true.
I have found him to be highly truthful and resent you accusing the brethren.

If you wish to dispute the substance and evidence of the article I put up there go ahead but don't be attacking fellow Christians again, it is totally unchristian to do so.

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*eyeroll*

USincognito said:

Alex Jones needs help. I don't know what sort of help, but he needs help.

I watched his Youtube video of Dallas Police Department supposedly "cracking down" on his minions during the 2013 JFK observance. His minions basically yelled in the faces of the cops for an hour and when they tried to break out of an area designated for protests meant to disrupt the dignified observance of the assassination they were dealt with accordingly.

I also watched him take Jesse Ventura to a "FEMA death camp" in Taylor, Texas for the Conspiracy Theory program. There was just one mistake they made - they showed the name of the location in question. The "T. Don Hutto" facility has not one, but at least three (ICE, corporate and Wikipedia) pages describing in detail what the facility is actually for.

Alex Jones can't be trusted to predict lightning during a thunderstorm at this point.

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First of all Alex Jones didn't write these articles, the article I happen to find on Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! , it just goes to show how the truth is subjugated by those that don't really want the truth. If you had even looked instead of falling in to the your programing you might have seen that.
I'm sorry you are in total error.

MSM Pushes Doomsday Arctic Ice Sheet Propaganda

Dubious prediction isn’t even expected for 1,000 years

» MSM Pushes Doomsday Arctic Ice Sheet Propaganda Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Antarctic Sea Ice Sets Another Record – For Most Ice Ever This Time of Year

» Antarctic Sea Ice Sets Another Record – For Most Ice Ever This Time of Year Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

I'll trust NASA, Bill Nye, and Neil Degrasse Tyson over Jones any day.

mpok1519 said:

I'll trust NASA, Bill Nye, and Neil Degrasse Tyson over Jones any day.

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First of all Alex Jones didn't write those articles one was from Forbes Magazine and the other from Paul Watson, Alex Jones links to other writers like Drudge does, Man I can't believe I have to keep telling people that; they are so program to reject Alex Jones they become blind.

Now here is another article, Mike Adam Natural News *(once believed in the Global Warming Hoax) and is renown genius.

Historic deep freeze across North America conclusively proves global warming is getting worse, right?

(NaturalNews) Global warming is getting worse. It's so bad now that it has thrust most of North America into an historic deep freeze with plummeting temperatures that haven't been seen in decades. This is absolute proof that global warming is worsening, and the way I know that is because the same people who told me that record HOT temperature last summer were caused by global warming -- "See? It's really, really hot!" -- are now saying that record COLD temperatures are also caused by global warming. "See? It's really, really cold!"


Learn more: Historic deep freeze across North America conclusively proves global warming is getting worse, right? - NaturalNews.com

Impacts from sea level rise are taken seriously by professionals from coast to coast.

The Center for Ocean Solutions has gathered data concerning coastal erosion and saltwater intrusion. Not only are coastline communities at risk when freshwater sources are contaminated and properties lost, responding communities become at risk when freshwater shortages then occur.


Jason Hanna-Massive ice melt 'appears unstopable'



Center For Ocean Solutions-Impacts From Sea Level Rise

I'd still trust NASA, Nye, and NDT over these sources. Over most sources here on CF.

JacobLaw said:

First of all Alex Jones didn't write those articles one was from Forbes Magazine and the other from Paul Watson, Alex Jones links to other writers like Drudge does, Man I can't believe I have to keep telling people that; they are so program to reject Alex Jones they become blind.

Now here is another article, Mike Adam Natural News *(once believed in the
Global Warming Hoax) and is renown genius.

Historic deep freeze across North America conclusively proves global warming is getting worse, right?

(NaturalNews) Global warming is getting worse. It's so bad now that it has thrust most of North America into an historic deep freeze with plummeting temperatures that haven't been seen in decades. This is absolute proof that global warming is worsening, and the way I know that is because the same people who told me that record HOT temperature last summer were caused by global warming -- "See? It's really, really hot!" -- are now saying that record COLD temperatures are also caused by global warming. "See? It's really, really cold!"


Learn more: Historic deep freeze across North America conclusively proves global warming is getting worse, right? - NaturalNews.com

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JacobLaw said:

Historic deep freeze across North America conclusively proves global warming is getting worse, right?

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Looks like "renown genius" Mike Adam doesn't understand what "global" and "climate" means.

Hint - winter isn't climate and North America isn't global.