Christianity killed all other gods

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In the first six months of leaving christianity I thought that god could be found in some other religion, untill one logical thought stopped me from heading in that direction.

"If jesus is not the real god, then why didn't the real god stand up."

This perplexed me because it make sense to think that the real god would have known I was reaching out to it, but like jesus it didn't manifest itself to me in a way I would know it to be real.

Then from there I thought,

"If jesus is not the real god and no other god stood up, then is there no god?"

Yes very perplexing.
 

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In the first six months of leaving christianity I thought that god could be found in some other religion, untill one logical thought stopped me from heading in that direction.

"If jesus is not the real god, then why didn't the real god stand up."

This perplexed me because it make sense to think that the real god would have known I was reaching out to it, but like jesus it didn't manifest itself to me in a way I would know it to be real.

Then from there I thought,

"If jesus is not the real god and no other god stood up, then is there no god?"

Yes very perplexing.
What makes you so sure that Jesus' god is not the real God? Did you ever think of Matthew 28:18? If this is true, and you have known God through Jesus why would any other god want to attract your loyalty? Of course you should also recognize your own contribution to this, which you confessed in your first sentence.
 
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The logical dilemma gets worse. Even if you did continue your search, you would find no other god that could compare with Jesus. Jesus is absolutely without any moral or spiritual flaw. Now add in that He loves us enough to give Himself in order to reconcile us back to Father. Search as you may, you won't find better than that.

So if you believe that Jesus isn't God, then I can see why atheism is trying to capture your mind. And yet our very existence argues conclusively against it.

There is an alternative. It is to reexamine why you abandoned faith in the Lord, find what lie you believed, repent and come back. It's that simple, and it is not too late.
 
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What makes you so sure that Jesus' god is not the real God? Did you ever think of Matthew 28:18? If this is true, and you have known God through Jesus why would any other god want to attract your loyalty? Of course you should also recognize your own contribution to this, which you confessed in your first sentence.
Because he never stood up.
 
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The logical dilemma gets worse. Even if you did continue your search, you would find no other god that could compare with Jesus. Jesus is absolutely without any moral or spiritual flaw. Now add in that He loves us enough to give Himself in order to reconcile us back to Father. Search as you may, you won't find better than that.

So if you believe that Jesus isn't God, then I can see why atheism is trying to capture your mind. And yet our very existence argues conclusively against it.

There is an alternative. It is to reexamine why you abandoned faith in the Lord, find what lie you believed, repent and come back. It's that simple, and it is not too late.
Do you really think I have not done that allready, in the last two years alone I have repented and returned to god at least a dozen times.

It's a dead end.
 
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What if all those other gods that people felt inspired to identify in their own way, god's of thunder, goddesses of healing, and all the rest, were actually the innate spirit of the one god speaking to primitive minds in ways they could understand so as to enter relationship with them?

And millions of years later, from when our primitive ancestors scribbled on cave walls to indicate some semblance of recognizing a creative force in their lives, to ancient Nubia, Egypt, Greece, all those cultures, all those polytheistic pantheons later, the one God decided to arrive and put an end to all the poly-theism.

And bring himself in the flesh to the world to show all people, those who saw him and those who would hear about him later, that the many were just primitive illusions that were created to unite with an innate longing to join with the father of all life and all that is living.

To answer the questions the many god worshipers sought in paying homage to every little thing in their life.
God's of wine, God's of the harvest. God's of the hunt, for instance. And culminate all that seeking into the one revelation that manifest as one truth in Jesus son of the one and only God.

In the first six months of leaving christianity I thought that god could be found in some other religion, untill one logical thought stopped me from heading in that direction.

"If jesus is not the real god, then why didn't the real god stand up."

This perplexed me because it make sense to think that the real god would have known I was reaching out to it, but like jesus it didn't manifest itself to me in a way I would know it to be real.

Then from there I thought,

"If jesus is not the real god and no other god stood up, then is there no god?"

Yes very perplexing.
 
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Chris, please continue to think about my last question. I was trying to see if there was an erroneous belief about what should or should not happen that is upsetting your faith.
 
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Chris, please continue to think about my last question. I was trying to see if there was an erroneous belief about what should or should not happen that is upsetting your faith.
Do you know how to help me? it seems to me that humans know how to hurt more than heal. Talking can only take you so far, then you have to do something to fix the problem or you will end up just talking some more.
 
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Sometimes in life we all go through mental torture in various ways. It does not mean we need to need to end our life. Life is not perfect. Christ gave His life for you and me so that we can have eternal life. Please live for Him. He loves you and will get you out of this. TRUST Him totally.
 
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In Daniel 3 can you relate to this in any way.
19 Then Nebuchadnezzar was furious with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, and his attitude toward them changed. He ordered the furnace heated seven times hotter than usual 20 and commanded some of the strongest soldiers in his army to tie up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and throw them into the blazing furnace. 21 So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace. 22 The king’s command was so urgent and the furnace so hot that the flames of the fire killed the soldiers who took up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, 23 and these three men, firmly tied, fell into the blazing furnace.
24 Then King Nebuchadnezzar leaped to his feet in amazement and asked his advisers, “Weren’t there three men that we tied up and threw into the fire?”
They replied, “Certainly, Your Majesty.”
25 He said, “Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.”
26 Nebuchadnezzar then approached the opening of the blazing furnace and shouted, “Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, servants of the Most High God, come out! Come here!”
So Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego came out of the fire, 27 and the satraps, prefects, governors and royal advisers crowded around them. They saw that the fire had not harmed their bodies, nor was a hair of their heads singed; their robes were not scorched, and there was no smell of fire on them.
28 Then Nebuchadnezzar said, “Praise be to the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, who has sent his angel and rescued his servants! They trusted in him and defied the king’s command and were willing to give up their lives rather than serve or worship any god except their own God. 29 Therefore I decree that the people of any nation or language who say anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego be cut into pieces and their houses be turned into piles of rubble, for no other god can save in this way.”
30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the province of Babylon.
 
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Who is Jesus? He is the intermediary between us and God:

My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense - Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. (I John 2:1-2,NIV)

He is not only the sacrifice, but also the priest who presented that sacrifice to God as the atonement for our sins:

First he said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them" (although the law required them to be made). Then he said, "Here I am, I have come to do your will." He sets aside the first to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are beig made holy. (Hebrews 10:8-14,NIV)

He is, of course, the atoning sacrifice, whose blood has made it possible for God to grant us as a gift the righteousness which we could never have earned as a salary:

Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.

But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished - he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus. (Romans 3:19-26,NIV)

He is the first to be resurrected, and by this resurrection he has conquered death itself. He also reigns for the present, and will continue to reign until death has been totally destroyed. Following The End of Days he himself will be made subject to God the Father:

But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. (I Corinthians 15:20-28,NIV)

The God we worship is the same God who spoke with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He sent his Son, Jesus Christ, among us, so that we would be able to comprehend him more fully through our witnessing his Son's actions and hearing his teachings. He also had his own Son be the perfect sacrifice of atonement, and thus closed the chasm between our shortcomings and his demand for righteousness.

So we worship God the Father as the architect who drew up the blueprints for our salvation. We worship his Son, Jesus Christ, for being the totally obedient Son of God the Father, and therefore the perfect sacrifice that cleanses all mankind of its sins. And we worship the Holy Spirit, who is always with us so as to direct us, guide us, and even scold us when we 'screw up'.
 
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