Your view demands the addition, whether you understand it or not. Makes no difference. You've been clear; those who claim faith but have no works aren't saved.
I gave the correct view and you haven't refuted it. Just claiming your view is the correct one is hardly a refutation.
You've really misunderstand my points by a mile.
That's what James says. I agree with himYour view demands the addition, whether you understand it or not. Makes no difference. You've been clear; those who claim faith but have no works aren't saved.
ie, without works, one is not saved. Pretty clear.
I didn't claim it. I've shown it.I gave the correct view and you haven't refuted it. Just claiming your view is the correct one is hardly a refutation.
Since you have no understanding of what he wrote, impossible.
All that was done was claim it. I guess we could say that you've shown what you've claimed. No refutation of my view, nor proof of your view.
I know what you're talking about, but the Bible doesn't use your terms, so what you're talking about doesn't exist.
Let me remind you of a recent post:
I know what you're talking about, but the Bible doesn't use your terms, so what you're talking about doesn't exist.
Nothing that you'll accept because your free grace [term not found in scripture] theology says that if anyone even says they believe, they are saved forever.
I am truly amazed that your error of my view is perpetuated. NO ONE in free grace theology EVER says that "if anyone even says they believe, they are saved forever".
Right. But the hammster discounted those who are deceivers, which is the context in Gal. But, nice try anyway.
I am truly amazed that your error of my view is perpetuated. NO ONE in free grace theology EVER says that "if anyone even says they believe, they are saved forever".
What is clearly emphasized is what people HAVE BELIEVED, not what people claim to believe.
It's never about words said. It's all about placing one's trust in Christ for eternal life.
Do you really understand the difference here? It seems not. Or, just another stab at trying to mischaracterize a theology that you don't like but cannot refute.
btw, so what that "free grace" isn't found in Scripture? Either is "Trinity", "rapture" and many other words that are fully accepted theologically.
How about this: Calvinism isn't mentioned either. And it isn't taught either.
Oh, one more thing. Since you believe there is mention of "false converts" in Scripture, though obviously not those exact words, please just define the term. So I know what you mean when you use the word. Thanks.
I've been very clear all along. Of course people can make claims as to being saved, or being a Christian. Some have been deceived and don't understand saving faith. Just look at the mainline liberal protestant denominations. They think they are Christian because they go to church, etc. Yet they have no idea.
