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I have already told you that I do not agree with any creeds. I already explained that I did not realize I have to agree with creeds to post here. You all read where I said that, and you still made posts to me. I answered you all out of politeness.
Then you didn't have to answer (though we understand you were being polite) and sadly I understand you do not go by the Scriptures but your own mind because the creed was and is Scripture in brief. If you really loved and believed Scripture the way it is you would have absolutely no problem with beliefs of Scripture being written out because that is what creeds are.

For instance we asked what you believe and you told us, you wrote a creed of your beliefs.
 
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Paul also called himself the father of the corinthians ;)

Was he violating Christ's commands?

If he told them to call him 'father'. However, he did not tell them to call him 'father'.
Your argument destroys itself. If Christ was speaking only to the 12, then He was not speaking to us and we need not follow it. But if He was speaking to all of us, then Paul violated it and so did Christ.

Those are your two options
Jesus was not only speaking to the 12.
 
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Then you didn't have to answer and sadly I understand you do not go by the Scriptures but your own mind because the creed was and is Scripture in brief.
Having a creed is against the Word of God. Nowhere does God tell us to have creeds. Having creeds is a tradition of men.

If you really loved and believed Scripture the way it is you would have absolutely no problem with beliefs of Scripture being written out because that is what creeds are.

For instance we asked what you believe and you told us, you wrote a creed of your beliefs.

I wrote no creed.
 
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Having a creed is against the Word of God. Nowhere does God tell us to have creeds. Having creeds is a tradition of men.



I wrote no creed.
Nowhere in Scripture does it tell us to play the kazoo. Playing the kazoo is a tradition of men. Therefore playing the kazoo is against the word of God.

See what I did there?

Saying that a creed is against the word of God is adding your tradition to Scripture, because Scripture never says to have no creed.
 
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Having a creed is against the Word of God. Nowhere does God tell us to have creeds. Having creeds is a tradition of men.

The Bible (which is not God's Word, God's Word is Christ John 1) is silent so if you say someone can not have a creed than you are adding to the Scriptures and as you have shown that is sinning. You can not point to anywhere that the Scriptures say do not have a creed.

I wrote no creed.

So this was not you saying this:

I am glad you asked.
I believe all denominations have false doctrines, and even a child of King David was to search for God’s Truth. See 1 Chronicles 22:19.
I believe that obeying Jesus’ teachings is everything, and that we have to check on everything that others try to teach us.
I believe that if you obey Jesus, he will live in your heart. See John 14:23.

Once you write down your beliefs you just made a creed, and your post above is your creed
 
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If he told them to call him 'father'. However, he did not tell them to call him 'father'.

He said "I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel" (1 Cor. 4:14–15).
The passage in Matthew also says that you should call no man teacher. But...
in Matthew 28:19–20, Christ himself appointed certain men to be teachers in his Church: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations . . . teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you." Paul speaks of his commission as a teacher: "For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle . . . a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth" (1 Tim. 2:7); "For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher" (2 Tim. 1:11). He also reminds us that the Church has an office of teacher: "God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers" (1 Cor. 12:28); and "his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers" (Eph. 4:11). There is no doubt that Paul was not violating Christ’s teaching in Matthew 23 by referring so often to others as "teachers."


Jesus was not only speaking to the 12.
Then Jesus broke his own commandment. So did Paul.
 
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I have already told you that I do not agree with any creeds. I already explained that I did not realize I have to agree with creeds to post here. You all read where I said that, and you still made posts to me. I answered you all out of politeness.
You have a creed, as has been shown. The following is your creed:

I believe all denominations have false doctrines, and even a child of King David was to search for God’s Truth. See 1 Chronicles 22:19.
I believe that obeying Jesus’ teachings is everything, and that we have to check on everything that others try to teach us.
I believe that if you obey Jesus, he will live in your heart. See John 14:23.

This is the Creed of THIS.
 
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Having a creed is against the Word of God. Nowhere does God tell us to have creeds. Having creeds is a tradition of men.
How is a 'creed' against the Word of God?
Which scripture or concept do you refer to?
Thanks.

(I don't feel any need for creeds myself, but I don't
see how they're "against" God's Word)
 
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The Bible (which is not God's Word, God's Word is Christ John 1)
According to the RCC catechism it is.
You're RC, correct?

If so, then I'm sure you wouldn't disagree with your church,
regardless if you "think" the Word of God is not Scripture.
 
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According to the RCC catechism it is.
You're RC, correct?

If so, then I'm sure you wouldn't disagree with your church,
regardless if you "think" the Word of God is not Scripture.
No I am not. Even Catholics will tell you the The Word of God is Christ
 
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How is a 'creed' against the Word of God?
Which scripture or concept do you refer to?
Thanks.

(I don't feel any need for creeds myself, but I don't
see how they're "against" God's Word)

There is no scripture telling us to make creeds. If we do things that God does not tell us to do, then we are following the traditions of men.
 
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There is no scripture telling us to make creeds. If we do things that God does not tell us to do, then we are following the traditions of men.
You are adding to Scripture by saying this, violating what you all told us not to add or subtract from Scripture. So where Scripture is silent you can add to Scripture? Don't tell us your not adding to Scripture everyone can see you are.
 
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You have a creed, as has been shown. The following is your creed:
I believe all denominations have false doctrines, and even a child of King David was to search for God’s Truth. See 1 Chronicles 22:19.
I believe that obeying Jesus’ teachings is everything, and that we have to check on everything that others try to teach us.
I believe that if you obey Jesus, he will live in your heart. See John 14:23.

This is the Creed of THIS.

What I said is not a creed.
 
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You are adding to Scripture by saying this, violating what you all told us not to add or subtract from Scripture. So where Scripture is silent you can add to Scripture? Don't tell us your not adding to Scripture everyone can see you are.

You are adding to scripture when you make creeds.
 
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What I said is not a creed.
Each statement begins with I believe. The definition of a creed is a statement of beliefs. Therefore, it is a statement of beliefs, which is a :fanfare: Creed!
 
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I am showing you what the scriptures plainly and clearly say. All you are doing is making insults.
It is not an insult to say something is a false statement. Scripture does not CLEARLY say "use Scripture alone".
 
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Each statement begins with I believe. The definition of a creed is a statement of beliefs. Therefore, it is a statement of beliefs, which is a :fanfare: Creed!
I believe in the whole Bible.
 
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What I said is not a creed.
Definition of Creed:

a statement of the basic beliefs of a religion
: an idea or set of beliefs that guides the actions of a person or group


So yes what you wrote out was a creed, you can't get away from that fact.
 
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