What bothers you more? BLM vs Bundy

Which is more disturbing to you?

  • The BLM's violent, armed intimidation of unarmed citizens

  • Cliven Bundy's rhetoric about racial issues


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I agree. I'm racially slav(e) and I'd take the same thing as you.

That said, the thread topic is, which bothers you more: the government aiming sniper rifles at unarmed civilians, or a Racist Old Man's stupid rant.

Well obviously some guy's rant doesn't bother me as much as anything the fed's do, so there you go.
 
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It wouldn't have had anything to do with taxes if Harry Reid hadn't started claiming Bundy didn't pay his taxes.

Since Bedford, decided to drag Harry Reid's accusations into the mix, I think it was only fair for me to point out the problem with those claims.
Can you show that the reference to unpaid taxes was income tax and not the grazing fees?

I don't think the welfare programs were originally intended to cause harm, but that's what they are causing and I think modern politicians want these programs kept in place because it means that they have a captive voting base.
Welfare has made poverty less onerous, but generational poverty proceeded welfare by millennia.
 
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I don't think he really has an excuse for his racism. It's bad.

That said, which is worse, in your opinion: Racist Old Dude or federal government sniping and intimidating unarmed citizens with cameras?

Neither of them are particularly important to me.

"The government trying to recoup some unpaid grazing fees" doesn't really raise my hackles, nor does "racist rancher says something stupid".
 
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I don't really care about the bundy situation, I consider it the government impounding some cattle.

You left out them gunning down 2 prize bulls and several milk cows for kicks...

You left out the tearing up water tanks and leaving it as garbage all over the landscape...

You left out them threatening people with those guns.

I'm just finding it interesting that some people need to excuse racism of the guy because their politics agrees with his.

Cause I've been falsely accused of being a racist in the past simply for disagreeing with Obama's policies, and I'm actually of mixed ethnicity. I don't think a poorly worded commentary where he used a word that granted I wouldn't use, necessarily means he's a racist.

I have quite frankly had it with people calling people racists simply because they disagree with someone.

Btw, let's get real here, the only reason people are obsessing over Bundy's comments is because it distracts from the abuses of Big Government gone wild.
 
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You left out them gunning down 2 prize bulls and several milk cows for kicks...

That's because that is just the ranchers view of what happened. The other side says that they euthanized two bulls because they are a safety hazard to move.

You left out the tearing up water tanks and leaving it as garbage all over the landscape...

Were the water tanks on federal land?

You left out them threatening people with those guns.

Guns. Terrible things. When enforcement officials use them. In the hands of the "protesters" I suppose they are the tools of freedom fighting and liberty.

Cause I've been falsely accused of being a racist in the past simply for disagreeing with Obama's policies, and I'm actually of mixed ethnicity. I don't think a poorly worded commentary where he used a word that granted I wouldn't use, necessarily means he's a racist.

So, you're not objective. Not news.

I have quite frankly had it with people calling people racists simply because they disagree with someone.

We're calling this guy a racist for saying racist things. Perish the thought.

Btw, let's get real here, the only reason people are obsessing over Bundy's comments is because it distracts from the abuses of Big Government gone wild.

Of course it isn't important, it just kind of screws up the folk hero story that's been spun about the guy.
 
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I don't see his comments as racist at all. I think it is pretty clear blacks in America are better off as slaves.

I think this article covers this topic fairly well.

Slavery & welfare: Why there is no comparison | Southern Nationalist Network

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Why is the Bureau of Land Management militarily armed to the teeth and so readily disposed to display their power?
Some are suggesting that the armed personnel hired by the BLM. Military contractors possibly from the former Blackwater group
 
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It is the only issue. Had he paid his taxes we would not be discussing any of this.
He pays his taxes. Reid lied about him not paying taxes just like he lied about Romney not payng taxes. Some people believed Reid, others know better.
 
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Again, another poorly thought out poll. You should have at least put a choice for neither.
Hypothetically, if you chose neither would t]hat mean that both bothered you equally or neither bothered you at all?
 
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Some are suggesting that the armed personnel hired by the BLM. Military contractors possibly from the former Blackwater group
Some have suggested the moon is made of cheese. Possibly cheddar.

He pays his taxes.
How do you know? We do know that he has refused to pay his grazing fees.
 
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Well obviously some guy's rant doesn't bother me as much as anything the fed's do, so there you go.

Same here. Behind the poll is the presumption that they both bother a man. It seemed strange, though, that some people were going nuts about his dumb rant, while the BLM is running around with sniper rifles.
 
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It seemed strange, though, that some people were going nuts about his dumb rant, while the BLM is running around with sniper rifles.

I'll be more inclined to care if someone actually gets shot, otherwise this seems like it really is about the cattle grazing.
 
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I'll be more inclined to care if someone actually gets shot, otherwise this seems like it really is about the cattle grazing.
Actually, this isn't about cattle grazing. Perhaps you should review the OP
 
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Same here. Behind the poll is the presumption that they both bother a man. It seemed strange, though, that some people were going nuts about his dumb rant, while the BLM is running around with sniper rifles.

If someone was trespassing on your land, would you meet them with a .38 or a rifle? The fact is that this would never have happened if Bundy hadn't been grazing his cattle illegally on land owned the the Government. The land is owned by the Federal Government and Bundy has been grazing his cattle illegally on the land while refusing to pay grazing fees required by the owners of the land. I wonder what Bundy would do if someone was grazing their cattle on his land.
 
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