Did life first appear in this universe apart from abiogenesis?

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Strathos

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You mean after giving me a hard time for even daring ask such a thing?

You mean after waiting until your buddies gave me a hard time for even daring ask such a thing?

Then you decided to answer it?

Okay ... just so you won't have a cow about it:

Thank you for answering my OP.

How is asking you to clarify your question "giving you a hard time?" Knowing you, it could easily have been some kind of trick question.

And as for my "buddies", please note that I've only been responding to you and your posts here, whatever anyone else posted is completely unrelated to me.

Just because I often find myself concurring with other people who disagree with you about things doesn't mean we're in some kind of conspiratorial alliance against you. In fact, sometimes you and I are on the same side when disagreeing with someone else (like that guy in that "Ezekiel's Wheel is an atom" thread).
 
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Let's just forget about it, as I see you are not going to answer the straight forward question.

No, I'm not answering because it's pointless. You won't believe it anyway, as evidenced by your unwillingness to read a bona fide researcher and exorcist. The book is even on pdf for free. Let's just be honest here. You are already convinced of your nonbelief and the only reason you want to engage with me is to put me down as evidenced by your initial post. You aren't interested in learning or sharing anything with me as a human being as evidenced by another condescending reply to my second post. And finally you further show your lack of interest by not even having the slightest inkling in looking at the book at all from a well respected author and scientist in demonology and ancient languages by saying just forget about it. When I was searching I read everything i could get my hands on. So please spare me the patronizing. You weren't being honest from the very beginning.
 
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No, I'm not answering because it's pointless. You won't believe it anyway, as evidenced by your unwillingness to read a bona fide researcher and exorcist. The book is even on pdf for free. Let's just be honest here. You are already convinced of your nonbelief and the only reason you want to engage with me is to put me down as evidenced by your initial post. You aren't interested in learning or sharing anything with me as a human being as evidenced by another condescending reply to my second post. And finally you further show your lack of interest by not even having the slightest inkling in looking at the book at all from a well respected author and scientist in demonology and ancient languages by saying just forget about it. When I was searching I read everything i could get my hands on. So please spare me the patronizing. You weren't being honest from the very beginning.

Reading everything you can get your hands on isn't necessarily valid research. Anybody can write anything they want - doesn't make it valid or true. After all, what is a "scientist in demonology?"
 
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No, I'm not answering because it's pointless. You won't believe it anyway, as evidenced by your unwillingness to read a bona fide researcher and exorcist. The book is even on pdf for free. Let's just be honest here. You are already convinced of your nonbelief and the only reason you want to engage with me is to put me down as evidenced by your initial post. You aren't interested in learning or sharing anything with me as a human being as evidenced by another condescending reply to my second post. And finally you further show your lack of interest by not even having the slightest inkling in looking at the book at all from a well respected author and scientist in demonology and ancient languages by saying just forget about it. When I was searching I read everything i could get my hands on. So please spare me the patronizing. You weren't being honest from the very beginning.

You made a claim that non-believers were led by the devil (which by the way is a pretty degrading claim) and I asked you whether this was a personal assumption, or whether you had verifiable evidence to support this claim. You chose not to answer and that is fine.

And, I don't believe in demonic possession and have done a lot of reading on the same. Many neuropsychologists who know the brain and behavior quite well (in fact better than anyone) have examined this closely and don't buy demonic possession either and believe it does not exist.
 
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You mean after giving me a hard time for even daring ask such a thing?

You mean after waiting until your buddies gave me a hard time for even daring ask such a thing?

Then you decided to answer it?

Okay ... just so you won't have a cow about it:

Thank you for answering my OP.

You really don't get it do you 😖😉

Maybe if you were not so intolerable to be around you would have buddies too. But instead of engaging in meaningful conversation we get stupid PRATTs and Thalidomide.

Let's test the degree to which you are committed to King Poe. Today is my sons 5th birthday.

I'm self censoring the rest of what I have to say about you because I know you'd run to your moderator buddies who only seem to care if it's an atheist breaking the rules.
 
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You really don't get it do you 😖😉

Maybe if you were not so intolerable to be around you would have buddies too. But instead of engaging in meaningful conversation we get stupid PRATTs and Thalidomide.

Let's test the degree to which you are committed to King Poe. Today is my sons 5th birthday.

I'm self censoring the rest of what I have to say about you because I know you'd run to your moderator buddies who only seem to care if it's an atheist breaking the rules.


I am the first to agree that AV can be annoying and I have no problem giving him a hard time but that is not correct. AV has on several occasions been banned from the forum and he does not receive any special consideration that I can see. He has also been willing to modify his behavior when he has agreed it was egregious and apologized for his actions.
 
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I am the first to agree that AV can be annoying and I have no problem giving him a hard time but that is not correct. AV has on several occasions been banned from the forum and he does not receive any special consideration that I can see. He has also been willing to modify his behavior when he has agreed it was egregious and apologized for his actions.

I don't agree - at all. He knows the damage he did with his thalidomide jokes, he knows that he trampled all over some information I gave him - and he was a total (self censored). That man gets no mercy from me until he apologises. He knows what for. He has been told.

His silence reveals his heart.
 
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I don't agree - at all. He knows the damage he did with his thalidomide jokes, he knows that he trampled all over some information I gave him - and he was a total (self censored). That man gets no mercy from me until he apologises. He knows what for. He has been told.

His silence reveals his heart.

Everyone on this board gives giant clues about their motivations each time they put their fingers on the key board and post. AV has given truck loads of clues for all to see, and I happen to agree with you.
 
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[quote=AV1611VET;65458843]Did life first appear in this universe apart from abiogenesis?[/quote]

Dear AV, Of course it did since Abiogenesis is nothing but Magical Chemical Generation, which is based on the False Assumptions of people who REJECT God's Truth that He created. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 
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I don't agree - at all. He knows the damage he did with his thalidomide jokes, he knows that he trampled all over some information I gave him - and he was a total (self censored). That man gets no mercy from me until he apologises. He knows what for. He has been told.

His silence reveals his heart.
If he betrayed your trust then an apology is the least he can give to you!
 
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If he betrayed your trust then an apology is the least he can give to you!
Not even close, mzungu.

Just ignore her.

Unless you don't want to, that is.

It's your choice.
 
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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! If you read my post you will see that I used the word "IF".
More like you were trying to fan the flames, in my opinion.
 
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Did life first appear in this universe apart from abiogenesis?
Life first appeared in the universe by various mechanisms. Abiogenesis was only one of them. There is no clear evidence as to the first appearance.
 
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Life first appeared in the universe by various mechanisms. Abiogenesis was only one of them. There is no clear evidence as to the first appearance.
Not in criticism but in interest. What are some of these various mechanisms for the first life? I don't think I have heard this before.

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Having explored one tiny planet in the entire universe I'm going to go with "Who knows?"
I do.

There were no planets in existence when life was first created in this universe.

There weren't even any electrons.
 
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