Pat Robertson: Jesus said an asteroid could destroy Earth next week

Cute Tink said:

Thanks Joykins. This is probably going to waste away much of my time

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SepiaAndDust said:

Oh, wow! See, I always thought that it was a combination of reflection and refraction of light. Thank you for rooting out the primitive superstition in my thinking!

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Hetta said:

Er, I think you should always listen to a woman when she addresses you, actually.

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cow451 said:

Or, at least, pretend to.......

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Hetta said:

Er, I think you should always listen to a woman when she addresses you, actually.

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7sForDays said:

However, just as we humans have our "own" understanding of Gods creation, it doesnt mean we know "why" he makes things work the way he does.

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SepiaAndDust said:

Naw, Brother... they can tell when you're pretending....

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Cute Tink said:

I'm not going to go there. Suffice it to say I disagree with your explanations for weather and whatnot.

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7sForDays said:

Is it not written?

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Joykins said:

Heh. I lost a day to it. :o

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7sForDays said:

Gen 3:16 Then He said to the woman, "I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you. "

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Feminism isnt exactly biblical...

Women are subject to men on earth, as in God saw fit to put the man above the woman for the sake of governance.

This doesnt detract from the valuable role a woman plays, which proverbs reminds me of so often..

Pro 31:11 Her husband can trust her, and she will greatly enrich his life.
Pro 31:12 She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life.
Pro 31:13 She finds wool and flax and busily spins it.
Pro 31:14 She is like a merchant's ship, bringing her food from afar.
Pro 31:15 She gets up before dawn to prepare breakfast for her household and plan the day's work for her servant girls.
Pro 31:16 She goes to inspect a field and buys it; with her earnings she plants a vineyard.
Pro 31:17 She is energetic and strong, a hard worker.
Pro 31:18 She makes sure her dealings are profitable; her lamp burns late into the night.
Pro 31:19 Her hands are busy spinning thread, her fingers twisting fiber.
Pro 31:20 She extends a helping hand to the poor and opens her arms to the needy.
Pro 31:21 She has no fear of winter for her household, for everyone has warm clothes.
Pro 31:22 She makes her own bedspreads. She dresses in fine linen and purple gowns.
Pro 31:23 Her husband is well known at the city gates, where he sits with the other civic leaders.
Pro 31:24 She makes belted linen garments and sashes to sell to the merchants.
Pro 31:25 She is clothed with strength and dignity, and she laughs without fear of the future.
Pro 31:26 When she speaks, her words are wise, and she gives instructions with kindness.
Pro 31:27 She carefully watches everything in her household and suffers nothing from laziness.
Pro 31:28 Her children stand and bless her. Her husband praises her:
Pro 31:29 "There are many virtuous and capable women in the world, but you surpass them all!"
Pro 31:30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty does not last; but a woman who fears the LORD will be greatly praised.
Pro 31:31 Reward her for all she has done. Let her deeds publicly declare her praise.


Gen 3:16 Then He said to the woman, "I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you. "

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Cute Tink said:

Natural explanations are also written about. Like I said, I'm just going to disagree with you on this issue.

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7sForDays said:

Is it not written?

Job 37:5 "God thunders with His voice wondrously, Doing great things which we cannot comprehend.
Job 37:6 "For to the snow He says, 'Fall on the earth,' And to the downpour and the rain, 'Be strong.'
Job 37:7 "He seals the hand of every man, That all men may know His work.
Job 37:8 "Then the beast goes into its lair And remains in its den.
Job 37:9 "Out of the south comes the storm, And out of the north the cold.
Job 37:10 "From the breath of God ice is made, And the expanse of the waters is frozen.
Job 37:11 "Also with moisture He loads the thick cloud; He disperses the cloud of His lightning.
Job 37:12 "It changes direction, turning around by His guidance, That it may do whatever He commands it On the face of the inhabited earth.
Job 37:13 "Whether for correction, or for His world, Or for lovingkindness, He causes it to happen.

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Sunshine Locket said:

You posted this to reply to Fuzzy's post. I ask you then, does Feminism do what Robertson argued it does in that quote?

And in God's wisdom as creator of all that exists women are certainly not less than men. Because the way God created things to be for the furtherance of the human species, while man may have been created first, he was given a female companion so he would not live alone. And due to the creation of the male and the female it is only through the female that the human race continues to be born from God.

Feminism therefore can be argued to be something Christian women can embrace. Because they accept their God given power as givers of life. And if they can give life they can certainly make a life for themselves. Without a man.
Jesus was not a sexist. And since God created the reproductive biology of women and men, God isn't one either. If it wasn't for women men with a patriarchal bias wouldn't exist.

Galatians 3:28

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DiligentlySeekingGod said:

It is also written in Scripture...

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,..." (Romans 1:20)

Here is the verse in context: "18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things." (Romans 1:18-23)

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Feminism therefore can be argued to be something Christian women can embrace. Because they accept their God given power as givers of life. And if they can give life they can certainly make a life for themselves. Without a man.

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DiligentlySeekingGod said:

It is also written in Scripture...

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,..." (Romans 1:20)

Here is the verse in context: "18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things." (Romans 1:18-23)

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Hetta said:

Wow. Thanks for 'allowing' Christian women to be feminists.

Many of us do have men, btw. Happily married here for a long time.

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DiligentlySeekingGod said:

21 years here.

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7sForDays said:

Forgive me, I didnt realize your faith was "humanist"..

I thought you were a Christian who was arguing against what is written..

Now I get why you believe what you do..


What is a "humanist" anyways?? Is that like atheism??

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Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith (fideism).

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