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Where in the Bible does it discuss or mention the tradition of Lent? Is Lent mentioned in the Bible? Is there a command in the Bible that orders this tradition to take place? Why is it that many people forego meat on Fridays during this time? What is the purpose of this or what does it represent? I'm trying to figure out if this is a man made tradition or if it's dictated by Jesus or God. Any enlightenment on the topic would be a great help. Thank you!! =)
 

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You are right to question church practices and dogma. You'll find that religious people aren't as astute when it comes to the gospel and follow all sorts of useless dogma and ceremonial rites that resemble Old Testament practices that were intended to establish and symbolize things to come, lacking spiritual substance. Except, many practices nowadays weren't even taught in the bible. They were made up by man somewhere along the way.

Some people may be offended by this, but Jesus himself blasted the Pharisees for the exact same thing.
 
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OCA - The Orthodox Faith - Volume II - Worship - The Church Year - Great Lent
This is a very brief and incomplete explanation. This could take up volumes if I gave it all the time it deserves. Every day of the calendar year, the Church is commemorating or celebrating something. We celebrate feasts as well as fasts.

The scriptures don't mention lent. However, the Church existed before the New Testament was compiled. The New Testament flowed out of the life of the Church, and the Church is guided by the Holy Spirit. Early on- the Church had liturgy and a calendar (it still does). At the First Council of Nicea the calculation for the date of Pascha (what you call Easter) was fixed. This was to ensure that all Christians were all in accord and celebrating feasts and fasts at the same time for continuity. The Early Church fasted together and celebrated feasts together. In fact, you can't truly celebrate feasts without fasts.

Lent is a time of fasting preceding the feast of feasts (Holy Pascha). In fact, the scriptures refer to fasting as an expectation. Matthew 6:16 says 'When you fast...'- implying that we will do this not maybe or not do this. While each of us ultimately fasts individually, and that is between us and God- the Church does have times when all of us fast corporately. Even though we corporately fast- my personal fast IS between me and God and isn't anyone else's business.

In the Orthodox Church- we fast most Wednesdays and Fridays of the year- with a few exceptions. Wednesday in remembrance of the betrayal and Friday for the crucifixion. In fact- we abstain from meat, fish, dairy, wine, oil, entertainment, and marital relations every day during lent (and not just on Fridays- as in the Western tradition). Every Sunday we celebrate the resurrection (which is the bare minimum that most Protestants and Evangelicals have held onto).

In the days leading up to Pascha (again- what you refer to as Easter)- lent is a time for repentance. Not that we shouldn't and/or don't repent the rest of the year, but it is a time when we concentrate more fully on prayer, fasting, almsgiving, and attending more church services (as we can). As the Church is the hospital for sinners, we have special services for every day of lent (and the calendar year- come to that). Everything is to help us in our walk with Christ. We engage all of our senses in the worship of Christ.

For example, in the Orthodox Church, we celebrate Holy Week. The Saturday before Holy Week is Lazarus Saturday, which commemorates the raising of Lazarus by Christ. It is a direct correlation to the ressurection. Then we celebrate Palm Sunday, which is Christ's entry into Jerusalem. Beginning at sundown on Sunday that week, we began Holy Week with the Bridegroom Matins of Holy Monday. On Monday morning, we celebrate Divine Liturgy (which is Holy Communion). We also celebrate Bridegroom Matins on Monday evening for Holy Tuesday. Tuesday morning we celebrate Divine Liturgy. On Tuesday evening we celebrate Bridegroom Matins for Holy Wednesday. On Wednesday morning we celebrate Divine Liturgy. Wednesday we will have Bridegroom Matins and a Holy Unction service (annointing with oil). On Thursday morning we commemorate the institution of the Eucharist with Divine Liturgy and foot washing. On Thursday evening for Holy Friday we have the Twelve Passion Gospels service and commemorate Christ's crucifixion. On Holy Friday morning we celebrate the Royal Hours. On Friday evening, for Holy Saturday, we have the Lamentations at the tomb service. In many Orthodox parishes throughout the world, we have an all-night vigil at the tomb and read the Psalms continuously until Liturgy on Saturday morning. On Holy Saturday morning, we celebrate the Liturgy of Saint James and the empty tomb. In some parishes throughout the world, the vigil is continued after Liturgy with the reading of the Book of Acts until Midnight on Sunday. Beginning at Midnight Sunday, we celebrate Matins, the Rush Service, and the Holy Pascha of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ- which is the ultimate celebration of the Resurrection.

I absolutely cannot express to you enough how awesome, reverent, exciting, ecetera- Pascha is. You should come and see!

Some hymns from Lent and Holy Week:

Lazarus Saturday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rju5GyVtfnQ
Palm Sunday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmadHMRLuWQ
Holy Monday, Holy Tuesday, Holy Wednesday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyrUVmOHnss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVGmf4EhUMI&list=UUMtDlit_XhorZwarvvzFXIA
Holy Thursday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_G2jgGQjUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roW36jlaUlw
Holy Friday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhUNgkqT4aI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9su_FNDiVEQ
Holy Saturday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-6hawl7Fgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsqJGMHvyjA
Pascha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hgMoudjg3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvjgar-Mc48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-La9Iv52Yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs--5yMg1g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3_FQ_blPYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHfM0QwdgGw

The Paschal Sermon of St. John Chyrsostom
If any man be devout and loveth God,
Let him enjoy this fair and radiant triumphal feast!
If any man be a wise servant,
Let him rejoicing enter into the joy of his Lord.

If any have laboured long in fasting,
Let him how receive his recompense.
If any have wrought from the first hour,
Let him today receive his just reward.
If any have come at the third hour,
Let him with thankfulness keep the feast.
If any have arrived at the sixth hour,
Let him have no misgivings;
Because he shall in nowise be deprived therefore.
If any have delayed until the ninth hour,
Let him draw near, fearing nothing.
And if any have tarried even until the eleventh hour,
Let him, also, be not alarmed at his tardiness.

For the Lord, who is jealous of his honour,
Will accept the last even as the first.
He giveth rest unto him who cometh at the eleventh hour,
Even as unto him who hath wrought from the first hour.
And He showeth mercy upon the last,
And careth for the first;
And to the one He giveth,
And upon the other He bestoweth gifts.
And He both accepteth the deeds,
And welcometh the intention,
And honoureth the acts and praises the offering.

Wherefore, enter ye all into the joy of your Lord;
Receive your reward,
Both the first, and likewise the second.
You rich and poor together, hold high festival!
You sober and you heedless, honour the day!
Rejoice today, both you who have fasted
And you who have disregarded the fast.
The table is full-laden; feast ye all sumptuously.
The calf is fatted; let no one go hungry away.
Enjoy ye all the feast of faith:
Receive ye all the riches of loving-kindness.

Let no one bewail his poverty,
For the universal Kingdom has been revealed.
Let no one weep for his iniquities,
For pardon has shown forth from the grave.
Let no one fear death,
For the Saviour’s death has set us free.
He that was held prisoner of it has annihilated it.

By descending into Hell, He made Hell captive.
He embittered it when it tasted of His flesh.
And Isaiah, foretelling this, did cry:
Hell, said he, was embittered
When it encountered Thee in the lower regions.

It was embittered, for it was abolished.
It was embittered, for it was mocked.
It was embittered, for it was slain.
It was embittered, for it was overthrown.
It was embittered, for it was fettered in chains.
It took a body, and met God face to face.
It took earth, and encountered Heaven.
It took that which was seen, and fell upon the unseen.

O Death, where is thy sting?
O Hell, where is thy victory?

Christ is risen, and thou art overthrown!
Christ is risen, and the demons are fallen!
Christ is risen, and the angels rejoice!
Christ is risen, and life reigns!
Christ is risen, and not one dead remains in the grave.
For Christ, being risen from the dead,
Is become the first-fruits of those who have fallen asleep.

To Him be glory and dominion
Unto ages of ages.

Amen.
 
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I appreciate the responses

This is what I understand (perhaps over simplified):

To be a Christian we must follow/obey the word and example of Jesus Christ. Christ's word is in the new testament and he commanded us to follow His teaching and not that of the old testament and traditions. That if it is not in the bible then it is not from him, but rather, man-made (which is detested.)

If we are instead following the old testament and following the original traditions and time-keeping, then we are not Christian, we are Jewish.

There is not a 'grey' area of the bible. You are Christian or you are Jewish (?), or you aren't in the Kingdom of God.

This is just how I understand what I've learned in a bullet-style so I can keep it straight and explain it clearly to form questions. Is this information correct? This is why I ask about Lent since I can't find it in the Bible.
 
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I appreciate the responses

This is what I understand (perhaps over simplified):

To be a Christian we must follow/obey the word and example of Jesus Christ. Christ's word is in the new testament and he commanded us to follow His teaching and not that of the old testament and traditions. That if it is not in the bible then it is not from him, but rather, man-made (which is detested.)

If we are instead following the old testament and following the original traditions and time-keeping, then we are not Christian, we are Jewish.

There is not a 'grey' area of the bible. You are Christian or you are Jewish (?), or you aren't in the Kingdom of God.

This is just how I understand what I've learned in a bullet-style so I can keep it straight and explain it clearly to form questions. Is this information correct? This is why I ask about Lent since I can't find it in the Bible.

Yes, leaning toward the simplistic approach can mean throwing the baby out with the bath water. Having said that..

I come from a background where Lent was and still is recognized as a time when in prayer and fasting one prepares for the rememberance of the Lord's supper, Good Friday..all in preparation for Easter. Lenten practices (which are simply organized ways to practice one's faith) observed by some mainline denominations today are based on biblical prinicples all of which are in the bible but not all in one place--called Lent. The word Easter is also not in the bible..yet we do observe it, don't we? The important thing is to find out what something really means before we condemn it as unbiblical. And I think that is what you are asking here.

Since most of the Christian churches still observe Lent as a season in which their hearts are prepared for the celebration of Good Friday and Easter..I don't think that it should be simply dismissed as wrong for everyone. Organized fasting, sacrifices, and self-discipline based upon prayer are not wrong in themselves.

We must not judge those who observe Lent. And, yes, Jesus did come to bring the New Covenant but he did not eliminate major Jewish practices when He came, lived, and preached. He had come up to Jerusalem to observe the Passover feast when he was crucified. The Lord's supper was a Passover feast.
 
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I think this is sort of what Krikey is getting at-

Joel 2:[13] "And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God:..."

God isn't interest in ceremony and outward appearances. He wants genuine repentance, and it's certainly not restricted to a once a year thing.
 
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Instead of listening to people who make erroneous assumptions, learn about what Great Lent is and what those in such churches believe. I think it is rather like playing God for one to assume they know the hearts of others and whether or not their repentance is genuine. Neither is our repentance only once a year, or for show, etcetera.
 
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Is Lent for show? Is it ceremony, tradition, or actual repentance?

Colossians 2:[16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:[17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.[18] Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,...”
 
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Just to clarify a bit since it can be sensitive, there's no judgment. Jesus does warn of the possible pitfalls of tradition and for this main reason I was trying to find mention of Lent in the Bible. Mostly, I'm trying to figure out what is commanded in the Bible and what is our choice (hence the questions).

Not having grown up with Lent and not being able to find it in the Bible and so many people seem to do it just a little differently, the practice of it is a bit confusing to me. I'm sure with some time and some fellow Christians I can sort it out =)

Thank you everyone for your help and replies. This blog has been very helpful!
 
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Part of Lent began with Passover, which Jesus and His disciples celebrated:
`These are the appointed times of the LORD, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at the times appointed for them. 5`In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at twilight is the LORD'S Passover. 6`Then on the fifteenth day of the same month there is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the LORD; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. 7On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any laborious work
Lev. 23:4-7

The forty days was not a scriptural instruction, but commemorated Jesus fasting 40 days in the wilderness. The Bible has other 40's too -- Moses 40 days getting the law on the mountain, 40 exodus years in the desert, Noah's 40 days of rain... Elijah and Jonah had some 40's too.


In March, before Passover, the Jewish celebration of Purim honors Esther's preservation of the Jews under the Persians (Mordecai too).

Esther 9:22

Because on those days the Jews rid themselves of their enemies, and it was a month which was turned for them from sorrow into gladness and from mourning into a holiday; that they should make them days of feasting and rejoicing and sending portions of food to one another and gifts to the poor.


(see mishloach manot)

This probably tied in with the Easter baskets we give now.
 
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I view Lent as a season of reminders. No matter how we observe it, sober thoughts of Jesus' last days on Earth are good for us. Little rituals like fasting, not eating meat, or giving things up can be symbolic acknowledgements, but shouldn't be done out of obligation or duty. Nor should we consider people who remember in other ways somehow disobedient or lacking discipline. It's all a matter of worship style, and there is room for diversity.
 
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