Young girl covers her eyes as nude men walk past during Gay Pride Parade

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Even outside this one incident, you have had numerous other incidents where people are appalled by what takes place in these marches. Even other homosexuals are bothered with what takes place and don't want anything to do with it, especially those who have children.

Even I had the displeasure of witnessing this parade, and would you believe me if I told you that the naked men weren't what creeped me out, rather the husky naked women on bikes were what made me dry heave?
How dare women who don't conform to your standard of attractiveness display themselves like that? How DARE they?
 
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It's the outrage that this poor girl saw a naked man - when in reality, we should be outraged at the choices of the mother.

And this isn't about me disbelieving you - though I do wonder why you witnessed more than one aspect of the parade and didn't leave or avert your eyes when you knew what was occurring?

You can't complain about the eyesore of a "dykes on bikes" display if you put yourself in that situation and refused to look away.

It is an unfortunate reality that these parades occur and will continue to occur. But don't stand in front of a firing gun and complain when you get shot.
Do you know Sydney at all? Frankly it's hard to imagine anyone on Oxford street during Mardi Gras who doesn't really want to be there. Brooklyn's protestations to the contrary, it's not as if there would be a lot of people just going about their business who just happened to be there when all of a sudden the parade started. I have a hard time imagining similar events in other countries being much different.
 
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It's the outrage that this poor girl saw a naked man - when in reality, we should be outraged at the choices of the mother.

And this isn't about me disbelieving you - though I do wonder why you witnessed more than one aspect of the parade and didn't leave or avert your eyes when you knew what was occurring?

You can't complain about the eyesore of a "dykes on bikes" display if you put yourself in that situation and refused to look away.

It is an unfortunate reality that these parades occur and will continue to occur. But don't stand in front of a firing gun and complain when you get shot.

So your solution to anybody in that area is to basically look down or the other way if they want no part of the parade?

Well, if a homeless man is relieving himself in the middle of the street or two people decide to get it on on a sidewalk, would your response also be to look the other way, or possibly fault the person for witnessing that?

Consider that someone may need to be somewhere that is along that parade route, or they may have to travel up or down the sidestreets along the parade route, again, they should probably cover their eyes to only allow as much visibility that allows them to see what's in front of them whilst having their heads turned?

Or how about the politicians start getting a backbone and start enforcing the law since no one is supposed to be marching along a heavily city street naked?
 
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How dare women who don't conform to your standard of attractiveness display themselves like that? How DARE they?

I don't care if they are male or female. It shouldn't occur in the first place.
 
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I don't care if they are male or female. It shouldn't occur in the first place.
Um...

would you believe me if I told you that the naked men weren't what creeped me out, rather the husky naked women on bikes were what made me dry heave?

make your mind up.
 
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It doesn't negate that both were naked. All I did was explain which grossed me out worse, blackwater.
Which means you do care whether they're male or female. No one said anything about negating anything.
 
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Do you know Sydney at all? Frankly it's hard to imagine anyone on Oxford street during Mardi Gras who doesn't really want to be there. Brooklyn's protestations to the contrary, it's not as if there would be a lot of people just going about their business who just happened to be there when all of a sudden the parade started. I have a hard time imagining similar events in other countries being much different.

Yes I know Sydney. And I agree :thumbsup:.
 
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So your solution to anybody in that area is to basically look down or the other way if they want no part of the parade?

Well, if a homeless man is relieving himself in the middle of the street or two people decide to get it on on a sidewalk, would your response also be to look the other way, or possibly fault the person for witnessing that?

Consider that someone may need to be somewhere that is along that parade route, or they may have to travel up or down the sidestreets along the parade route, again, they should probably cover their eyes to only allow as much visibility that allows them to see what's in front of them whilst having their heads turned?

Or how about the politicians start getting a backbone and start enforcing the law since no one is supposed to be marching along a heavily city street naked?

Umm what?

No one is talking about whether it is right or wrong for these parades to occur. But... given they do occur... it is wise to plan your travels around them. And if you find yourself accidently exposed to such a parade (which is incredibly unlikely!) then you avert your eyes and come back later.

You never BRING YOUR KIDS! You don't stand around and wait and see what happens. You don't see a naked man, and think... gee this is interesting and offensive, let's hang around until the fat chicks on bikes offend me.

Goodness me.
 
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Umm what?

No one is talking about whether it is right or wrong for these parades to occur. But... given they do occur... it is wise to plan your travels around them. And if you find yourself accidently exposed to such a parade (which is incredibly unlikely!) then you avert your eyes and come back later.

You never BRING YOUR KIDS! You don't stand around and wait and see what happens. You don't see a naked man, and think... gee this is interesting and offensive, let's hang around until the fat chicks on bikes offend me.

Goodness me.

Why is that in any other parade or any other big social gathering, you are not permitted to be naked whilst out in public whereas Gay Pride Parades get a pass? And someone said Mardi Gras. We do not have anything remotely close to a Mardi Gras parade, and that occurs in Louisiana; not NYC.

Also, I'm not saying these parades shouldn't occur, and I don't believe these naked marches are the main focal point of these parades.

The parade route takes place on 5th Avenue, which always has heavy foot traffic, and has various stores and office buildings. To just suggest. "well, just plan ahead," is quite asinine. Not everyone will know when these parades take place, outside of those who live to close proximity of the parade, you neglect those who live on the outside of Manhattan and those who come in from every which direction. I think it's flawed to say to a family from Jersey who comes in and sees that to then tell them "you should have planned ahead."

And again, why are you not allowed to be naked any other time except for this parade?
 
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Why is that in any other parade or any other big social gathering, you are not permitted to be naked whilst out in public whereas Gay Pride Parades get a pass? And someone said Mardi Gras. We do not have anything remotely close to a Mardi Gras parade, and that occurs in Louisiana; not NYC.

Also, I'm not saying these parades shouldn't occur, and I don't believe these naked marches are the main focal point of these parades.

The parade route takes place on 5th Avenue, which always has heavy foot traffic, and has various stores and office buildings. To just suggest. "well, just plan ahead," is quite asinine. Not everyone will know when these parades take place, outside of those who live to close proximity of the parade, you neglect those who live on the outside of Manhattan and those who come in from every which direction. I think it's flawed to say to a family from Jersey who comes in and sees that to then tell them "you should have planned ahead."

And again, why are you not allowed to be naked any other time except for this parade?

You've missed the point again. You don't find yourself accidentally at the front of the crowd watching the MG.
 
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You've missed the point again. You don't find yourself accidentally at the front of the crowd watching the MG.

You have to be at the front of the crowd in order to notice it? I wasn't in the front of the crowd.

Again, why condone it at this parade but not in any other? And again, we do not have Mardi Gras here.
 
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You have to be at the front of the crowd in order to notice it? I wasn't in the front of the crowd.

Again, why condone it at this parade but not in any other? And again, we do not have Mardi Gras here.

I'm not condoning it anywhere.

I'm saying that despite our wishes, these parades exist and we should be wise about not putting our kids in the middle of it.

We should also be consistent in the ways we condone sin.
 
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You have to be at the front of the crowd in order to notice it? I wasn't in the front of the crowd.

Again, why condone it at this parade but not in any other? And again, we do not have Mardi Gras here.

I don't have a big issue with public nudity and so long as there is no overt sexual activity or health risk to the public I see no reason to rail against it. Does NYC really never have naked runs or bike rides? That stuff happens with regularity in college towns around here. Seems pretty harmless to me. Not everyone is up to the high standard of beauty you seem to be advocating for, but we manage. We have a stupid open intoxicant law here, no drinking while you're diving or operating machinery on a public road. I parades your often see men driving their classic tractor pulling a float, and enjoying a cold one. I don't mind the inconsistency. Sometimes they throw candy.
 
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I love it when people make a dramatic show of ignoring someone because they cannot keep pace with their arguments. It happened to me a few times and few things taste sweeter. Relish this, Armoured.

to be fair he did stipulate that neither man or woman should be allowed in public in the nude and somehow armoured believed he would not have any problems with naked males as a result of him being more spurred off by lesbians on motorcycles. that's not only a false assumption but also a false accusation.
 
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Plenty of blame to go around here---the dumb parent for taking the kid to the parade; the idiots in the parade, who try to prove their point (whatever in God's name that might possibly be) by displaying their wares in public; and our sick and decaying society at large, which permits this kind of disgusting nonsense to go on. The only one blameless here---and the only one with both a modicum of common intelligence and a reasonable sense of modesty and decency, is the girl.
 
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Plenty of blame to go around here---the dumb parent for taking the kid to the parade; the idiots in the parade, who try to prove their point (whatever in God's name that might possibly be) by displaying their wares in public; and our sick and decaying society at large, which permits this kind of disgusting nonsense to go on. The only one blameless here---and the only one with both a modicum of common intelligence and a reasonable sense of modesty and decency, is the girl.

it does remind me of that one time years ago where the parents wanted to show their kid how bad it is working at a strip club. it was that or one parent took their kid to meet prostitutes.
 
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That was kind of my first thought. If the kid is going to be so disgusted, who took her to a gay pride parade in the first place? I assume it wasn't a stealth surprise parade, you kind of have to think that the kid and/or parents went out of their way to be there...
MAYBE the mom or dad is gay... and or a strong proponent to their rights...
Thats who.
I have one question, what are they exactly proving, nevertheless trying to say, by being naked???

Makes NO sense!

Why isnt it illegal to do this??
Why does this parade get a thumbs up signal?

Im just ---- whoa... i dont know what to say.
 
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The idea is to be clearly "out". The idea is that if enough people are obviously "out", than homosexuality will no longer be a taboo subject, possibly even become accepted.

Personally, I think gay pride parades are quite vulgar, but I understand their motivation. Still don't see why you'd take a kid to one, then get upset when the kid is shocked.
IT IS and should remain ILLEGAL to be nude in any public place.

Maybe the decency laws - in place - led them to feel ok about going? Perhaps advocates of gay pride or gay themselves? Who would of thot it?
Ooo - what laws?
Doesnt seem gays have to follow them?

Its called indecent exposure and once upon a time - streakers were arrested for pulling open their coat and exposing themselves.

What the heck?
I dont see any defense for this.

Where were the cops? :o
You are aware these marches are held on streets/avenues that have high foot traffic and also may have residences along the side streets? These parades aren't held in back alleys.

That is quite a false equivalency: a scantily clad person vs. a birthday suit.

It's not so much "find the sin" as it is "embrace the sin," or at least downright tolerate it.
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Even outside this one incident, you have had numerous other incidents where people are appalled by what takes place in these marches. Even other homosexuals are bothered with what takes place and don't want anything to do with it, especially those who have children.

Even I had the displeasure of witnessing this parade, and would you believe me if I told you that the naked men weren't what creeped me out, rather the husky naked women on bikes were what made me dry heave?
^_^
How dare women who don't conform to your standard of attractiveness display themselves like that? How DARE they?
:doh:

Have we really got to this point? :o
 
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