Young girl covers her eyes as nude men walk past during Gay Pride Parade

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MikeK

Traditionalist Catholic

Mar 25, 2014

Michie said:
Why do people see men holding hands & think homosexuality & when they see women or little girls do it it barely registers?

Because some men are not as comfortable in their sexuality as they would like the world to believe. They know that they would become aroused if they held a man's hand, so they assume that all hand-holding between two men is sexual. While we all likely have our perversions, we'd be wise not to project them onto others.

Fun fact: Much heterosexual hand-holding leads to sodomy.

New Legacy

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Mar 25, 2014

MikeK said:
We might see that. We might not. What we have seen is a glimpse into your soul. Our Pope isn't blaming Islam for the missing plane. Our cardinals aren't. Our Bishops aren't. Learn from them. When you post with that red cross icon, you represent Christ's Church. You have been given good men to emulate.

The Pope and other leaders do not do a lot of things, that does not mean they are wrong.

I am simply pointing out the obvious.

MikeK

Traditionalist Catholic

Mar 25, 2014

ForJesusChrist said:
I have one question, what are they exactly proving, nevertheless trying to say, by being naked???

Makes NO sense!

I suspect that they are attempting to showcase outlandish behavior in hopes that homosexuals who display "normal" public displays of affection will go unnoticed instead of being harassed or beaten mercilessly like the homosexuals I went to middle and high school with were.

ForJesusChrist

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Mar 25, 2014

There are many other ways of showing this.

Armoured

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Mar 25, 2014

ForJesusChrist said:
I have one question, what are they exactly proving, nevertheless trying to say, by being naked???

Makes NO sense!

The idea is to be clearly "out". The idea is that if enough people are obviously "out", than homosexuality will no longer be a taboo subject, possibly even become accepted.

Personally, I think gay pride parades are quite vulgar, but I understand their motivation. Still don't see why you'd take a kid to one, then get upset when the kid is shocked.

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Mar 25, 2014

ForJesusChrist said:
There are many other ways of showing this.

Such as?

ForJesusChrist

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Mar 25, 2014

Whatever they are trying to say, its no need to march down a street butt naked, it only offends people more!

Michie

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Mar 25, 2014

LoAmmi said:
I'd say two things:

One: gender roles accept females showing emotion though these things whereas men are supposed to remain stoic.

Two: People are generally more accepting of lesbians for some reason.

I think a lot of men let their imaginations run wild.

Newsflash: Lesbians do not want to invite you into their bed.

MikeK

Traditionalist Catholic

Mar 25, 2014

New Legacy said:
The Pope and other leaders do not do a lot of things, that does not mean they are wrong.

I am simply pointing out the obvious.

You are pointing out your prejudice, much as the poster who stated that the Iranians with stolen passports had something to do with the downing of the plane did. Keep doing your thing if you like. Do it with even more usernames if you want. You might be right. I hope that if you are wrong you will start a thread seeking forgiveness and sincerely repenting of your false witness, and that you will humbly seek to make amends with the Muslim community that you wronged.

Michie

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Mar 25, 2014

Back to the topic. Gay Pride Parades are parties. Some go as drag queens, some look for bears, others go as leather daddies, some look perfectly normal...there are all sorts. People going to these parades should know what to expect. The town basically treats it as a convention & the surrounding businesses usually accommodate the interests. Anyone not wanting their kids to see these things should not go.

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MikeK

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Mar 25, 2014

ForJesusChrist said:
Whatever they are trying to say, its no need to march down a street butt naked, it only offends people more!

You are likely correct, and that is why so few gays march down the street butt naked. Only a very small percent of the homosexual population does that. Given that virtually every college track or cross country team has a nude run through town once a year, I suspect that straight people scamper about in public more often than gays do. Children averting their eyes from coed runners isn't as juicy a headline though.

New Legacy

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Mar 25, 2014

MikeK said:
You are pointing out your prejudice, much as the poster who stated that the Iranians with stolen passports had something to do with the downing of the plane did. Keep doing your thing if you like. Do it with even more usernames if you want. You might be right. I hope that if you are wrong you will start a thread seeking forgiveness and sincerely repenting of your false witness, and that you will humbly seek to make amends with the Muslim community that you wronged.

I didn't state anything about passports. I said "Islam" and that will be the answer.

The rest of your post does not apply.

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Mar 25, 2014

ForJesusChrist said:
Whatever they are trying to say, its no need to march down a street butt naked, it only offends people more!

I think the theory behind it is that it's impossible to effect social change without getting in people's faces.

Why would people who are likely to be offended by that sort of thing going to these parades anyway?

gurneyhalleck1

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Mar 26, 2014

Yeah, you're pretty much right, Lo. Do you see a lot of men holding hands just for the heck of it? Do you happen to know a lot of straight arrows who just have a strong urge to hold hands with nothing else bound to happen? ay yay yay....

LoAmmi said:
Yes, because obviously two men holding hands are obviously just waiting to get home and have some sodomy. There couldn't be any other reason for that gesture.

gurneyhalleck1

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Mar 26, 2014

Look, of course context matters! If you had an elderly man and his son held his hand during an illness or loss, or you have two men holding hands at church praying or some situations like that, but if you see two men walking down the street holding hands in 2014, you can bet it isn't sharing karma or praying together....

Michie said:
Well not so much now. But as early as a hundred years ago it was not uncommon. I've seen two old guys holding hands in the nursing home for support. I just think it is sad that something as innocent as holding hands equals a roll in the hay.

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Brooklyn Knight

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Mar 26, 2014

Sayre said:
Why don't we point a finger at the parent for taking her there? These parades are no place for kids in the first place. Honestly - what kind of parent.... !??!?!?

Secondly, this seems somewhat staged. Is the kid that much upset when massive billboards of women in barely there lingere are out on display?

Our society is so trained to "find the sin" but only in socially acceptable ways. There is something wrong with exposing kids to adult nudity, especially when the nudity has sexual overtones - but there is also something wrong when we pick and choose what forms of adult semi sexual nudity we will have outrage at.

You are aware these marches are held on streets/avenues that have high foot traffic and also may have residences along the side streets? These parades aren't held in back alleys.

That is quite a false equivalency: a scantily clad person vs. a birthday suit.

It's not so much "find the sin" as it is "embrace the sin," or at least downright tolerate it.

Sayre

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Mar 26, 2014

Brooklyn Knight said:
You are aware these marches are held on streets/avenues that have high foot traffic and also may have residences along the side streets? These parades aren't held in back alleys.

That is quite a false equivalency: a scantily clad person vs. a birthday suit.

It's not so much "find the sin" as it is "embrace the sin," or at least downright tolerate it.

We aren't talking about a mother who lived on the street who couldn't avoid her child seeing a naked man. We are talking about a mother who intentionally took her child to a parade and positioned her child at the front where she could see everything. Unless this mother was extremely naive, she knew what the daughter would see. Sexually charged men at various degrees of undress parading their sexuality. We all know what a mardi gras is.

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Mar 26, 2014

Sayre said:
We aren't talking about a mother who lived on the street who couldn't avoid her child seeing a naked man. We are talking about a mother who intentionally took her child to a parade and positioned her child at the front where she could see everything. Unless this mother was extremely naive, she knew what the daughter would see. Sexually charged men at various degrees of undress parading their sexuality. We all know what a mardi gras is.

note: actually, to Seppos Mardi Gras is something else. You're going to confuse them.

Brooklyn Knight

On a narrow road but not narrow minded

Mar 26, 2014

Sayre said:
We aren't talking about a mother who lived on the street who couldn't avoid her child seeing a naked man. We are talking about a mother who intentionally took her child to a parade and positioned her child at the front where she could see everything. Unless this mother was extremely naive, she knew what the daughter would see. Sexually charged men at various degrees of undress parading their sexuality. We all know what a mardi gras is.

Even outside this one incident, you have had numerous other incidents where people are appalled by what takes place in these marches. Even other homosexuals are bothered with what takes place and don't want anything to do with it, especially those who have children.

Even I had the displeasure of witnessing this parade, and would you believe me if I told you that the naked men weren't what creeped me out, rather the husky naked women on bikes were what made me dry heave?

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Sayre

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Mar 26, 2014

Brooklyn Knight said:
Even outside this one incident, you have had numerous other incidents where people are appalled by what takes place in these marches. Even other homosexuals are bothered with what takes place and don't want anything to do with it, especially those who have children.

Even I had the displeasure of witnessing this parade, and would you believe me if I told you that the naked men weren't what creeped me out, rather the husky naked women on bikes were what made me dry heave?

It's the outrage that this poor girl saw a naked man - when in reality, we should be outraged at the choices of the mother.

And this isn't about me disbelieving you - though I do wonder why you witnessed more than one aspect of the parade and didn't leave or avert your eyes when you knew what was occurring?

You can't complain about the eyesore of a "dykes on bikes" display if you put yourself in that situation and refused to look away.

It is an unfortunate reality that these parades occur and will continue to occur. But don't stand in front of a firing gun and complain when you get shot.

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