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If this concept of living perfectly in God was restricted solely to our Lord, then He could never have said,
Luke 6:40 "The disciple is not above his Master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his Master"

The concept of one's living free of sin and being perfect in this life is not only difficult for a modern so-called follower of Christ to believe or accept, but it is also incomprehensible. In fact, it is ridiculous to every one who has not experienced the New Birth. Nevertheless, the Word of God stands true and unchangeable. We read in the Book of Hebrews that
Heb 10:14-15 "by one offering He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified. Whereof, the Holy Ghost is a witness to us."

Peter verified this when he wrote these words of consolation

1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, Who hath called us unto His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, establish, strengthen, settle you.


Heb 6:1 "Therefore, leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ," says the writer of the Book of Hebrews, "let us go on unto perfection"

It was Paul who said,

Eph 4:4-6 "He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fill all things. And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith"

Eph 4:10 "and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.

Here is a Revelation for you doubters that God can not make man perfect like He is before He returns....

Col 1:26-28 "Which," as Paul emphatically declared, "hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to His saints: to whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus"
 
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Now before everyone goes off on the step perfect in the Law, something that can not be done in our own strength, let us look at it from the Way that God wants us to be perfect. Not that all our efforts in keeping the law perfectly is a waste of effort, in fact, it is well worth the meditation, the effort, and the prayer to over come and achieve success at it. But it is still elementary to the really living it as God would have us live it. This is where God steps in our lives as our Holy Spirit to guide us in the right place, time, and right attitude towards it.

Perfect is in harmony with God's call... it is like a conductor of an orchestra.. at the right moment of the baton, .. its the moment for that note to be sounded.. any sooner and it is out of sequence even if it is tune.. You have to hear His voice to know..
 
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May it be so.

I still struggle in areas, but this is my path, my goal.

That is why very soon, I shall press in with all my being to seek Him for
"REAL" change, that I will and desire in reflection of His Torah.

It takes Him, coupled with our willingness.

As in Pesach, by His Mercy, the death angel passes us by, due to the Blood
of the Lamb.

But after this passing over, we must move on towards His Direction, and cannot
stay and reside in Egypt.

I love Romans 12:1
I exhort you, therefore, brothers, in view of G_d’s mercies, to offer yourselves as a sacrifice, living and set apart for G_d. This will please him; it is the logical “Temple worship” for you.
 
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May it be so.

I still struggle in areas, but this is my path, my goal.

That is why very soon, I shall press in with all my being to seek Him for
"REAL" change, that I will and desire in reflection of His Torah.

It takes Him, coupled with our willingness.

As in Pesach, by His Mercy, the death angel passes us by, due to the Blood
of the Lamb.

But after this passing over, we must move on towards His Direction, and cannot
stay and reside in Egypt.

I love Romans 12:1
I exhort you, therefore, brothers, in view of G_d’s mercies, to offer yourselves as a sacrifice, living and set apart for G_d. This will please him; it is the logical “Temple worship” for you.
Amen, the temple is the template. May we be like Yeshua and want the same thing He prayed for.
John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them. AMEN
 
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May it be so.

I still struggle in areas, but this is my path, my goal.

That is why very soon, I shall press in with all my being to seek Him for
"REAL" change, that I will and desire in reflection of His Torah.

It takes Him, coupled with our willingness.

As in Pesach, by His Mercy, the death angel passes us by, due to the Blood
of the Lamb.

But after this passing over, we must move on towards His Direction, and cannot
stay and reside in Egypt.

I love Romans 12:1
I exhort you, therefore, brothers, in view of G_d’s mercies, to offer yourselves as a sacrifice, living and set apart for G_d. This will please him; it is the logical “Temple worship” for you.
A lovely post Yoseft. Your post brings to my mind this...

Num 8:10 And thou shalt bring the Levites before the LORD: and the children of Israel shall put their hands upon the Levites:
11 And Aaron shall offer the Levites before the LORD for an offering of the children of Israel, that they may execute the service of the LORD.
:priest:
 
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Sanctification is a process that continues during our lives as believers. Until the last generation, where those who are alive and awaiting the Lord’s return, it has been that only after death are the saints referred to as “perfect”.
Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Sanctification involves the believers in the process and a responsibility as commanded in the Bible. We are commanded to be holy; to be perfect and to present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness and purity.
1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 This is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God
This will take effort on our part, working with the Holy Spirit to put to the death the evil deeds of the body or works of the flesh. We are to separate ourselves and walk in the Spirit that we may display the fruits of the Spirit and be the final harvest that Yeshua is looking for.
Leviticus 23:33-44. The LORD said to Moses, 34. "Say to the Israelites: `On the fifteenth day of the seventh month the LORD's Feast of Tabernacles begins, and it lasts for seven days. 35. The first day is a sacred assembly; do no regular work. 36. For seven days present offerings made to the LORD by fire, and on the eighth day hold a sacred assembly and present an offering made to the LORD by fire. It is the closing assembly; do no regular work
So it is that the feasts are rehearsals until the day that the Lord makes them fulfill in reality what they are telling us in rehearsal. May we always rehearse until He comes to perfect it in us His Will.
 
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We can see that this gathering to the temple of God will be the most glorious experience for the believers, than that which has ever been experienced before.
Haggai 2:1 In the seventh month, in the one and twentieth day of the month, came the word of the LORD by the prophet Haggai, saying, 2:9 He said, don’t worry about it….., The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts.
He was speaking of Solomon’s Temple where there was a manifest presence of God in the former house. He is also speaking of the latter house being more glorious. We are to be the latter house.
Ephesians 4:11-12 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
 
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Vis, why are you teaching Christian concepts in here?

Perfection in Christ


by George Clark

The Pioneer Tract Society?

Did you know that that website is only for those who have
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Received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, with the Evidence of Speaking in other Tongues,"



Speaking in OTHER tongues? interesting wording.


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Vis, why are you teaching Christian concepts in here?

Perfection in Christ


by George Clark

The Pioneer Tract Society?

Did you know that that website is only for those who have
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Received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, with the Evidence of Speaking in other Tongues,"



Speaking in OTHER tongues? interesting wording.


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Perfection in Christ is Paul's teachings and I have no idea how that website relates to what I am talking about other than it is a similar subject ..?? and you know me better than to think I think speaking in tongues is a sign.
 
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To me it sounds like the great triumph for our freedom.. For it come from within Him and is found within the temple services.
Ezra 2:62-63 These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but they were not found: therefore they were, as polluted, put away from the priesthood. 63 And the Tirshatha said unto them, that they should not eat of the most holy things, till there stood up a priest with Urim and with Thummim. (the word "Urim" and it means "light". "Thummim" means "completion or perfection")
 
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The sound of the trumpet on Feast of Trumpets is a remembrance of the ultimate ingathering.
Ezra 3:1 And when the seventh month was come, and the children of Israel were in the cities, the people gathered themselves together as one man to Jerusalem.
This "one man" theme came right out of Yeshua's prayer for us.

Remember Ephesians chapter 4 where it says this will not happen till we come together as a perfect man. Here it says they gathered together as one man. Who do you suppose that one man is in type? They came together in type in the seventh month as one man and they began to build. Seventh month is when the Feast of Trumpets begins to sound. We are to come together, and with the Lord's blessing, we will become as one man. We will shine forth as His as He wished and prayed for. It will be perfect.
 
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When the high priest stood before God on the Day of Atonement, he was said to be "face to face" with God. Because of this, the Day of Atonement became known by the phrase "face to face." "Face to face" is a terminology used in:
1 Corinthians 13:9-12 For we know in part; and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known .
And that is why I think that "perfect" day will be the great fulfilling of Yom Kippur, when we will have our sanctuaries cleansed of all unrighteousness and be perfected in Him. We will be fully filled not only in His Image but in His Spirit. It is the union of marriage that He is seeking and Yom kippur is the wedding day.
 
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Silence was kept by the congregation on Day of Atonement during to time when the High Priest was in the most holy. The congregation gathers around the temple and by faith they pray for their High Priest and the mission He is on for their sins to be removed from the book of life/sanctuary. Here we see a reference to silence during the time when God is raised up out of the Most Holy Place to wed/choose/receive the inheritance/bride/believers which are the perfect in Yeshua. This time of silence is the very time when the New/Eternal Covenant is ratified and we wait until King Yeshua emerges to claim His inheritance.
Isaiah 41:1 Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew their strength: let them come near; then let them speak: let us come near together to judgment.

Habakkuk 2:20 But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before him.

Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
 
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The seven trumpets will test to see what type of metal you are made of. By the Day of Atonement, when the Lord opens up the Book of Your life....the polishing will be finished, the potter will have finished molding your character that is to hold His spirit, the temple which is you. Can you hold the Spirit of God within you perfectly?
 
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The seven trumpets will test to see what type of metal you are made of. By the Day of Atonement, when the Lord opens up the Book of Your life....the polishing will be finished, the potter will have finished molding your character that is to hold His spirit, the temple which is you. Can you hold the Spirit of God within you perfectly?
Great challenge and post.

I do not know, but I press on to please Him.
 
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Great challenge and post.

I do not know, but I press on to please Him.
I don't think any of us will know, but we all will press on like Yeshua by faith before His crucifixion. He sweated blood over the challenge ahead and the desire to please Him above all else.:clap: Just as we will.
 
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"For the law having a shadow of good thing to come and not the very image of the things, can never ....make the comers there unto perfect." Heb 10:1 "...because that the worshipers once purged should have no more conscience of sins" Heb 10:2 The work of the High Priest (Yeshua) is on the perfecting of the saints to sin no more, to be in perfect harmony with the will and word of God. "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified....Now where remission of these is, there is not more offering for sin" Heb 10:14, 18 So when the Day of Atonement is over in heaven there is no more offering for sin, judgment comes (the plagues), and the end of the world.
Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times [seven trumpets of Revelation]

1 Corinthians 1:10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Yeshua, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. with God through Yeshua, our Messiah.
 
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It is in the last days of earth’s history that the concept that the Lord has wanted perfected in the minds of men, is that it is possible to obey His laws perfectly, through the power of the Holy Spirit, in the example of Yeshua. But there is also an added bonus, in that we will be able to understand perfectly, comprehend it like God does, and execute it like God would.

Jeremiah 23:20 The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
 
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IT is not even at what stage of faith a person is at, but what, how, why, and when they do what they do at where they are at that counts. You see all the Lord is looking for in the final harvest are those who by faith are walking in truth in the
last days.

Isaiah 18:5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches.

Isaiah 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.
 
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It will be the 144,000 in whom is no guile, those who have become perfect in the last days when the world will become so wicked, they will shine in contrast. While I see good evidence and likely chances of all 144,000 being Jews, I do not think that gentile should not strive to be like them in reaching that perfect status of having no guile in them.

John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. This can only be done with the constant dwelling on the Holy Spirit, which has to be invited in to stay.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Yeshua, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
 
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