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Rhamiel

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well I learned something new today, there is a legislative and executive bodies in the government of Vatican City
I knew there was a judicial branch, but I never knew there were executive and legislative bodies

the Pope is the absolute monarch of the very tiny Vatican City State, he has the power to over rule or dismiss any legislative, executive or judicial body in Vatican politics
at the current time, the Pope is the only absolute monarch in Europe (the other monarchs in Europe being Constitutional Monarchs)
 
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at the current time, the Pope is the only absolute monarch in Europe (the other monarchs in Europe being Constitutional Monarchs)

Well, it's debatable that the Prince of Lietchenstein is also an absolute monarch. The Principality has a constitution, but he has the power to veto all legislation, dissolve the elected body, etc. The prince is a good Catholic man, by the way, and he took flak recently in the media for vowing to veto abortion legislation in his country.
 
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lol fair enough :) hope I did not sound too guarded

the Pope used to hold a large swath of land in central Italy
at some time the Pope was the sovereign of those lands, but a lot of the time France, Spain or Austria, at different times was the real authority in the Papal States

then in the 1800s, the Victor Emmanuel of Savory, the King of Sardinia and Piedmont became the King of all Italy
it was not until Mussolini that the Vatican was able to separate itself from Italy
 
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lol fair enough :) hope I did not sound too guarded

the Pope used to hold a large swath of land in central Italy
at some time the Pope was the sovereign of those lands, but a lot of the time France, Spain or Austria, at different times was the real authority in the Papal States

then in the 1800s, the Victor Emmanuel of Savory, the King of Sardinia and Piedmont became the King of all Italy
it was not until Mussolini that the Vatican was able to separate itself from Italy

Hello Rhamiel,

States of the Church has always interested me. Catholics, starting with Constantine in 321 A.D., started to donate a great deal of wealth to the Church. Over the millenniums, this grew to the Church owning a great deal of land, and other wealth. The Church owned like two thirds of Italy. I would have to read it again to find the exact amount of land.

What is really interesting is that States of the Church only fell in 1870. That is not that long ago. Popes used to wield some real civil power back in the day. The common people who lived in States of the Church were much better off than those who lived under the rule of secular kings.

Here is a link to States of the Church.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: States of the Church

States of the Church

Consists of the civil territory which for over 1000 years (754-1870) acknowledged the pope as temporal ruler. The expression "Patrimonium Sancti Petri" originally designated the landed possessions and revenues of various kinds that belonged to the Church of St. Peter at Rome. Until the middle of the eighth century this consisted wholly of private property, but the term was later applied to the States of the Church, and more particularly to the Duchy of Rome.

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At last Rome was also to follow. Napoleon had at the end of December, 1866, withdrawn the small French garrison from Rome. It is true indeed that a foreign legion, composed for the most part of French soldiers and officers, was formed at Antibes to undertake the protection of Rome, but its position was nevertheless very critical. Garibaldi in the autumn of 1867 invaded the States of the Church with his insurgents. Then Napoleon once more sent a force from Toulon, which together with the papal army repulsed the forces of Garibaldi near Mentana, northeast of Rome on 3 November, 1867. The French garrison after this remained in Rome, since the Parisian Government had to yield to the wishes of the Catholics of France. Not until 20 July, 1870, after the Franco-German War had broken out, were the troops withdrawn. After Napoleon had been taken prisoner at Sedan, Italy, which had removed its capital to Florence in 1865, sent troops against Rome under Cadorna, and these on 20 September, 1870, entered the city through the breach at the Porta Pia. A vote, which declared in favour of annexation to Turin, was here also to give approval to the occupation. Pius IX excommunicated all participants in and authors of the occupation of the States of the Church. All Catholics condemned the action of Italy. To protect itself against the remonstrances, Italy on 13 May, 1871, issued the so-called law of the Papal Guarantees (see LAW OF GUARANTEES), which was to secure to the pope his sovereignty, the inviolability of his person, as well as the freedom of the conclave and of the œcumenical councils. In addition to this a yearly pension of 3,225,000 francs was voted to him. The Vatican, the Lateran, and the country-seat Castel Gandolfo were declared extra-territorial. But Pius IX to maintain his protests against the seizure of the States of the Church refused to accept the law, and shut himself up in the Vatican.

The Roman question remains unsettled to the present day, since its solution by Italy has thus far been absolutely one-sided, besides having been brought about by violence. Without heeding the protests of the pope, Rome was declared the capital of Italy on 30 June, 1871. The radical elements, who were hostile to the Church and who had contributed so much to the unification of Italy, continued for the future also to hold the upper hand. Pope Pius IX by the Decree "Non expedit" of 29 February, 1868, had forbidden the Italian Catholics to participate in the political life and especially in the election of representatives of the Kingdom of Italy. Only in very recent years has a gradual tendency to a change of relations become noticeable. Although Pius X, because of the principle involved, adheres to the "Non expedit", he permits the participation of Catholics in administrative elections (municipal and provincial elections), and since the Encyclical "Certum Consilium" of 11 June, 1905, in certain cases on the recommendation of the bishop also participation in the parliamentary elections. Since that time the Catholics have begun to take part in the political life of Italy (1909: 22 representatives) and to exert an influence which we hope will redound to the welfare of the Church and of Italy.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: States of the Church
 
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