Will the false prophet be Israel's long-awaited "messiah king?"

ancientsoul · Mar 17, 2014

Douggg said:
That sounds depressing to me. I think that would be a terrible ending.

yes, it is depressing ... but it's the way it stands ... He says many will be deceived ... not just a few ... we ... imo ... have to stop painting pretty pictures of Truth ... if a movie were to be made with this ending it would also need to contain all the many scriptures where the Lord has tried and tried to get people to see the Truth ... they just refuse ... what should He do then ... does He not have a right ... did He not create and orchestrate all ... perhaps if the Truth were spilled out many would take a good hard look at what being a Christ follower means ... He says keep your eyes on Him ... yet how many do you nw who use HIS WORDS ... or actually believe what He says He means ... the whole movies could include many parts where the mass outwardly defy Him ... we are not told to lie to them ... we are told to use HIS testimony ... does He not say ... that He will say to some 'i never knew you' ... shouldn't we tell people the consequences ... for real ... it's not to say the movie shouldn't show His love ... but it needs to show His wrath, as well, if it's to be the full Truth ...

ty, for commenting ...

Douggg · Mar 17, 2014

ancientsoul said:
Christo (oil) ... Christ comes from Christos ... the Greek translation of the Hebrew term Mashiah ... the English source of the word Messiah ... Mashiah is related to the Hebrew verb Masach ... meaning 'to anoint'

Mashiah - okay, when referring to "the" mashiah, what does that mean? You can go to Judaism 101: Mashiach: The Messiah

... i ask you ... is Jesus the Christ not the oil of the people ...

The oil used to anoint the Kings is symbolic of the Holy Spirit. I am asking you what verse in the bible are you basing Christ as oil of the people - what does "oil of the people" mean anyway?

and you may have made a wrong conclusion that the anti-christ won't be tryng to pose as Christ ... Jesus Christ ... Christ being His supreme name ... the Messiah ...

pl;ease forgive me for being so intolerant in the moment ... it truly is a matter of what i said ... the never=ending talking down to ... in complete opposition to talkin straight to ... hmmm ... maybe would that be anti-talk ... instead of talking ...

Have you considered the original poster is writing a script for a movie? He can't go back and change it, if he is half way through the script or even worse if they are half way through making the movie and say "oh, I found out that the Antichrist can't be perceived to be Jesus'', let's go back and start over. So what you write in this thread needs to be right and subject to examination, in light of fitting all of the prophecies together.

Douggg · Mar 17, 2014

ancientsoul said:
yes, it is depressing ... but it's the way it stands ... He says many will be deceived ... not just a few ... we ... imo ... have to stop painting pretty pictures of Truth ... if a movie were to be made with this ending it would also need to contain all the many scriptures where the Lord has tried and tried to get people to see the Truth ... they just refuse ... what should He do then ... does He not have a right ... did He not create and orchestrate all ... perhaps if the Truth were spilled out many would take a good hard look at what being a Christ follower means ... He says keep your eyes on Him ... yet how many do you nw who use HIS WORDS ... or actually believe what He says He means ... the whole movies could include many parts where the mass outwardly defy Him ... we are not told to lie to them ... we are told to use HIS testimony ... does He not say ... that He will say to some 'i never knew you' ... shouldn't we tell people the consequences ... for real ... it's not to say the movie shouldn't show His love ... but it needs to show His wrath, as well, if it's to be the full Truth ...

ty, for commenting ...

The message of Salvation is not supposed to end on a depressing note.

And I don't think your movie has any tangible connection to the prophecies of the end times as events take place in the prophecies in a sequential order, ending with the Great and Glorious return of Jesus, which Handel's messiah will be what it will actually be like as Jesus begins his 1000 year reign.

No-one can script an accurate and meaningful bible end times movie on what you saying, because you are not fitting the prophecies together.

A person might be able to make an Omen type movie, but that is not what I think the original poster had in mind.

tranquil · Mar 17, 2014

CalebTumanako said:
The false prophet arrives on the scene and Israel sets up it's monarchy again as the false prophet brings in a "golden age" for the Jewish people by eradicating Christianity from the land as well as Islam with him winning the war with Palestine. This leads to a peace treaty set up by the President of the Council between Israel and Palestine and the rest of the world as the economy crashes -- leading to marks or chips that not only buy or sell but are used to identify people, connect people to the Internet, etc.

I'm trying to make it as grounded as possible but really there's no way to really know the truth until it happens so I would like to see what's people's theories out there about the false prophet and the antichrist.

Does the false prophet reign down fire from the sky? I could interpret this as him launching a missile down from a drone or a satellite weapons system or supernaturally, reigning fire down from the sky. I'm wondering how could the false prophet do something that Elijah, a man of God did? It would seem like that the false prophet might perhaps be someone is under God's Law, (righteousness upon himself instead of Christ) and yeah, it's quite an amazing book the Book of Revelations.

I ask God for wisdom concerning this. It's pretty heavy. I could see the false prophet being an ultra-orthodox Jewish rabbi who does great wonders that deceives even the elect (the Vatican (Peter's Church) and other Christians out there).

Thoughts?

The antichrist, I view as someone like Hitler or Stalin but coming as a man of peace and not so blunt but deceiving like the serpent, like the devil, "an angel of light", soft-spoken, non-threatening who ultimately ends up doing much, much worse, so not ultra-right or ultra-left but a humanitarian as Jesus said to Peter when he rebuked him, "Away from me, Satan, for you only have humanly concerns instead of the concerns of God."

I thought it could be an A.I. -- people could think, yeah, we made this A.I. human and the A.I. starts enslaving us all and sits in God's temple and proclaims it's God but yeah, getting a bit too fantastical with that -- I don't think that could happen in real life and I've been watching too many movies.

I think they will all be human but the Devil will start putting in his final plan of war where he will ultimately lose again. The first war was when he was thrown out of Heaven by Michael so it seems like this second war will involve us -- where as the first war was a spiritual one, this will take place in the physical world and basically seems like the penultimate of all that has happened from the spiritual world. A dimension higher than ours as God is our Father and Christ is our Lord and Saviour.

Since you're coming at it from a writing angle, maybe what I write will make more sense to you than to the others on the forum...

The unfortunate fact is that Satan is already prowling around and has been setting up his deception for a very long time. Most pop culture is geared to programming people to accept the "antichrist". This is in conjunction with lies within the "scientific community" and in cahoots with the "news organizations". Pop culture is as much "news" as anything else. In this vein, my point is that you already know Revelation from the movies. Everyone does to some extent. This stuff is literally everywhere: Left Behind, anything Cthulu, Dr. Who, Battlestar Galactica, virtually all kids movies, Superman, Batman, you name it.

Star Wars is the book of Revelation, only the "bad guys" are set up to be "Christians" and the "good guys" are Satanists. The "Death Star" is the New Jerusalem and the 'space nazis" are set up to be "Christians" (same idea you see in the movie Elysium). "Skywalker" is "prince of the air" (Prince William)/ Satan. Chewbacca is a "Bigfoot", in Tom Horn propaganda speak, a "Nephilim giant". Darth Vader is "Death" (Of "Death and Hades" - look at his "skull mask".) The emperor is a Pope (aka "Hades").

The Lord of the Rings is the same thing, only Viggo Mortensen is Prince William, defeating the evil Pope emperor. Gandalf and or the other white robed "bad" guy is a Pope. The "orks" are Nephilim. The "ghost kings" are the "sea giving up the dead"/ "souls under the altar" (more on this in a sec.)

I've studied Scientology, which I'm sure you know is the unofficial religion of Hollywood. Movies are merely propaganda vehicles. They are not just "money making ventures". Hubbard was a satanist and in public records, describes a great destruction that has 3 different explanations for it. Well, what he was describing is elite propaganda for the future. When you talk about "A. I" robots taking over, that is merely one of these overlapping "explanations" - the "timetravelling robot AI god" from the Large Hadron Collider, "God" the evil alien, and genetically engineered terrorists. Something along those lines. Basically, catering to everyone's taste so as to make it believable to everyone. Google "project bluebeam".

Does the false prophet reign down fire from the sky? I could interpret this as him launching a missile down from a drone or a satellite weapons system or supernaturally, reigning fire down from the sky. I'm wondering how could the false prophet do something that Elijah, a man of God did?

In one sense, fire coming down from the sky is a Pentecost scenario, filling people with the holy spirit. The false prophet fulfills this through Rev 18:23's "by your sorceries you deceived the world", sorceries here is "pharmakia" - drugs for sorcery, hallucinogens.

Either very soon, or near Olympics time 2016 (my vote for when this happens), there will be a major terrorist attack, and in response, the govt will pass out hallucinogenic laced anti-radiation pills or vaccine (via experiments from MKULTRA and Jonestown). People will see "shadow people"/ interdimensional "aliens"/ ghosts of "raptured Christians" (again with the multi-explanation approach which incorporates the pre-trib rapture cosmic vacuum cleaner propaganda). See M Night Shamalyan movies for this, like "Signs" ("shadow people reptilians" attack in Brazil (the Olympics are in Brazil in 2016).

Douggg · Mar 17, 2014

Tranquil, I guess you don't have an actual start to finish scenario, but why make such a post? It's not helping anyone.

ancientsoul · Mar 17, 2014

Douggg said:
The message of Salvation is not supposed to end on a depressing note.

And I don't think your movie has any tangible connection to the prophecies of the end times as events take place in the prophecies in a sequential order, ending with the Great and Glorious return of Jesus, which Handel's messiah will be what it will actually be like as Jesus begins his 1000 year reign.

No-one can script an accurate and meaningful bible end times movie on what you saying, because you are not fitting the prophecies together.

A person might be able to make an Omen type movie, but that is not what I think the original poster had in mind.

well, first, i don't think it's depressing in that way ... it's depressing for me to know there will be those who just will not listen ...

where do you think those are that are standing outside the door ... do you think the Lord doesn't have a plan for them, too ... He wants that none should perish ... but, so it is, that some just will ... do you think that every soul that is saved is inside at the marriage table ... there's much more to the story ... it could be portrayed as God's view of what He would have... if only they would listen ...

but, i never intended to make this about my vision of a movie ... only ever intended to make a comment or two ...

thank you for the conversation ...

CalebTumanako · Mar 18, 2014

There's two or three projects I'd to get done. The most realistic of them all is a short film about Jesus fasting in the wilderness for forty days and nights, all spoken in Aramaic and Hebrew.

The second is a film about Christ called Yeshua, again, a very grounded, real film about Jesus. A Jewish, Middle-Eastern Rabbi, I want to take the Westernization and religiousness out of them and go back to it's roots.

The third is a film about the antichrist called The Son of Perdition and is basically about the rise and fall of the antichrist and the coming of Christ.

With the ending to the third, I visualize everything before I write it down and I imagine it with the return of Christ -- seen across the world as like a shooting star but with much great intensity, captured on handheld mobile devices, with the brightness -- the antichrist seeing the Lord's face and in instant is no more based on the Scripture -- anyone who sees my face will not live.

I would like to do it grounded without much flare, but poetic, artistic and not your normal conventional three act structure film but something that's life-changing. It should stir you up inside, just sticking with the Scriptures though.

How does one envision the antichrist? Especially with this knowledge that he will be the long-awaited Jewish messiah, would he wear a special royal robe? Or suit? Would he have a beard and keep his temple hair grown? I start with the visualization first then delve deeper. I'm thinking about setting it not in this generation or the next one but the one after that as technology grows as does our arrogance with science, with the growth of the world -- there would have to be a system (most likely the European Union) and a great economic crash leading it to be all kept digitally on the body (is there a word for that yet?), it's looking at the world and making assumptions based off observations then reading the Word, ultimately it's fiction but the closer, the better.

The opening would be John on the Island of Patmos, having the visions of the beasts as we cut to a future that's still relatable with tensions high in the world. We follow the rise of this figure, following an English journalist and an IDF soldier, the IDF soldier ends up assassinating the antichrist leading to his revival. So it's just trying to see which project I want to start on first but I still will write down the story.

Douggg · Mar 18, 2014

CalebTumanako said:
The third is a film about the antichrist called The Son of Perdition and is basically about the rise and fall of the antichrist and the coming of Christ.

With the ending to the third, I visualize everything before I write it down and I imagine it with the return of Christ -- seen across the world as like a shooting star but with much great intensity, captured on handheld mobile devices, with the brightness -- the antichrist seeing the Lord's face and in instant is no more based on the Scripture -- anyone who sees my face will not live.

I would like to do it grounded without much flare, but poetic, artistic and not your normal conventional three act structure film but something that's life-changing. It should stir you up inside, just sticking with the Scriptures though.

How does one envision the antichrist? Especially with this knowledge that he will be the long-awaited Jewish messiah, would he wear a special royal robe? Or suit? Would he have a beard and keep his temple hair grown? I start with the visualization first then delve deeper. I'm thinking about setting it not in this generation or the next one but the one after that as technology grows as does our arrogance with science, with the growth of the world -- there would have to be a system (most likely the European Union) and a great economic crash leading it to be all kept digitally on the body (is there a word for that yet?), it's looking at the world and making assumptions based off observations then reading the Word, ultimately it's fiction but the closer, the better.

The opening would be John on the Island of Patmos, having the visions of the beasts as we cut to a future that's still relatable with tensions high in the world. We follow the rise of this figure, following an English journalist and an IDF soldier, the IDF soldier ends up assassinating the antichrist leading to his revival. So it's just trying to see which project I want to start on first but I still will write down the story.

He goes through 4 stages to his career.

1. Little horn politician
2. prince who shall come
3. son of perdition, man of sin
4. the beast

You are going to call the movie the "son of perdition"? Do you know why Judas was called the son of perdition? It was because Satan entered him to carry out the act which by betraying Jesus, so that Jesus could be arrested in the wee hours of the morning so that there would not be a riot from the common people, it was an act of Judas betraying his (Judas's) land and his (Judas's) people.

It was only for a short time that Satan entered Judas to carry out that act.
The Antichrist is called the son of perdition in 2thessalonians2 for similar reason - of being entered into by Satan.

The Antichrist when after being the illicit King of Israel, son of David anointed, for 3 year 4 months of peace and safety throughout the world, will out of nowhere, totally unexpected, reached a point of being convinced by Satan that he has reached God-hood, will like Judas, be entered into by Satan for a very brief time, to go into the temple and sit in the sanctuary, declaring that he is God. With that act, the Antichrist will be betraying his land and his people - like Judas entered into for a brief period by Satan, is called the son of perdition because of it.

Which after a very short period of time, maybe a day or week, God has him killed, Ezekiel 28:1-10. Then brought back to life in Isaiah 14.

So the title of your movie "the Son of Perdition" actually takes the shortest period of the Antichrist's career - and magnifies it - while the longest part of his career (the fourth stage) is the last part as the beast, 42 months.

Until you can construct an end-times flow chart of events which requires visualization of how all the events piece together, a movie in your mind - you are not ready to make a movie on film about the Antichrist.

Once you can do that, then you have a basis for the fictional characters in your movie to go through.

dfw69 · Mar 18, 2014

The false prophet is a future king of Judah and the Antichrist is a future king of Israel (king of the north)

One possible scenario

CalebTumanako · Mar 18, 2014

I'm still sticking with Son of Perdition because it's one of the titles better fit for marketability purposes and getting it out there, plus it focuses on a period -- one of the most important where he sits in God's temple but I think the Lord wants me to come away from this for awhile and focus on Him. You are right, I am not ready. Thanks for the discussion.

CalebTumanako · Mar 18, 2014

The King of the North is an excellent title. I just ask for the blood of Christ to wash over each and everyone of us here and for the spirit of fear to be commanded out in the name of Jesus along with all conspiracy theories and deception in the name of Jesus. Praise you Lord.

I started to get a bit dreadful and dark reading through this so we all put on our full armor of God, I know the enemy will attack us anyway possible. Thank you Lord.

Lift every revelation up to the Lord and Ask him for wisdom concerning John's visions and prophecies along with Daniel's.

ebedmelech · Mar 18, 2014

I doubt anitchrist or the false prophet are persons.

It has nothing to do with the EU either (which is the thinking of so many).

It's about spiritual warfare...the weapons of our warfare are not carnal.

Shocker · Mar 19, 2014

ebedmelech said:
I doubt anitchrist or the false prophet are persons.

it will be crystal clear eventually.

Douggg · Mar 19, 2014

CalebTumanako said:
The King of the North is an excellent title. I just ask for the blood of Christ to wash over each and everyone of us here and for the spirit of fear to be commanded out in the name of Jesus along with all conspiracy theories and deception in the name of Jesus. Praise you Lord.

I started to get a bit dreadful and dark reading through this so we all put on our full armor of God, I know the enemy will attack us anyway possible. Thank you Lord.

Lift every revelation up to the Lord and Ask him for wisdom concerning John's visions and prophecies along with Daniel's.

It is a great title, as long as you are not making a movie about the Antichrist.

The Antichrist is the King of the West.

Caleb, are you an established scriptwriter or are wanting to get established?
Because I would like to see some examples of your work. Never mind I found you on the internet.

Caleb, you look to be a fairly young man. I am 65 and have studied this subject for over 40 years, every day.

It is not something you are going to become an expert in overnight. And how are you going to evaluate the large number of conflicting views you are going to get? Who is right? You have to have a basis, that is only going to come with time.

Douggg · Mar 19, 2014

CalebTumanako said:
I'm still sticking with Son of Perdition because it's one of the titles better fit for marketability purposes and getting it out there, plus it focuses on a period -- one of the most important where he sits in God's temple but I think the Lord wants me to come away from this for awhile and focus on Him. You are right, I am not ready. Thanks for the discussion.

For the Antichrist, that man of sin - son of perdition, revealing period is going to be very brief, because it has be in the midst of the week, and before he is brought back to life to reign as the beast for the last 42 months of the 7 years.

Caleb, you need to connect going into the temple and sitting as God in 2thess2, with Ezekiel 28:1-10 God having him killed for it, with Isaiah 14, God casting him out of the grave being him back alive, with Revelation 13:1, the wounded head come back to life, with there being 42 months in Revelation 13 of him ruling as the beast.

And you need to study on the crowns/no crowns on the heads and horns of Revelation 13, Revelation 12, Revelation 17 - why they are different for each chapter, because that study is going to reveal things about the end times and how to understand them.

Notrash · Mar 19, 2014

CalebTumanako said:
I write screenplays and am into directing and film-making. I'm putting together a story/concept based on the Books of Revelation from John and Daniel's prophecies.

It seems like the beast that rises from the water -- represents a Governmental system coming from the Gentiles. With the Beast from the land, representing one coming from Israel.

In my story, the economy ends up crashing and there are some minor wars across the world, leading to the United Nations and European Union joining together to form the International United Council where the U.N.'s Deputy Secretary General becomes the President of the Council which is a revived Roman empire.

The false prophet arrives on the scene and Israel sets up it's monarchy again as the false prophet brings in a "golden age" for the Jewish people by eradicating Christianity from the land as well as Islam with him winning the war with Palestine. This leads to a peace treaty set up by the President of the Council between Israel and Palestine and the rest of the world as the economy crashes -- leading to marks or chips that not only buy or sell but are used to identify people, connect people to the Internet, etc.

I'm trying to make it as grounded as possible but really there's no way to really know the truth until it happens so I would like to see what's people's theories out there about the false prophet and the antichrist.

Does the false prophet reign down fire from the sky? I could interpret this as him launching a missile down from a drone or a satellite weapons system or supernaturally, reigning fire down from the sky. I'm wondering how could the false prophet do something that Elijah, a man of God did? It would seem like that the false prophet might perhaps be someone is under God's Law, (righteousness upon himself instead of Christ) and yeah, it's quite an amazing book the Book of Revelations.

I ask God for wisdom concerning this. It's pretty heavy. I could see the false prophet being an ultra-orthodox Jewish rabbi who does great wonders that deceives even the elect (the Vatican (Peter's Church) and other Christians out there).

Thoughts?

The antichrist, I view as someone like Hitler or Stalin but coming as a man of peace and not so blunt but deceiving like the serpent, like the devil, "an angel of light", soft-spoken, non-threatening who ultimately ends up doing much, much worse, so not ultra-right or ultra-left but a humanitarian as Jesus said to Peter when he rebuked him, "Away from me, Satan, for you only have humanly concerns instead of the concerns of God."

I thought it could be an A.I. -- people could think, yeah, we made this A.I. human and the A.I. starts enslaving us all and sits in God's temple and proclaims it's God but yeah, getting a bit too fantastical with that -- I don't think that could happen in real life and I've been watching too many movies.

I think they will all be human but the Devil will start putting in his final plan of war where he will ultimately lose again. The first war was when he was thrown out of Heaven by Michael so it seems like this second war will involve us -- where as the first war was a spiritual one, this will take place in the physical world and basically seems like the penultimate of all that has happened from the spiritual world. A dimension higher than ours as God is our Father and Christ is our Lord and Saviour.

From a preterist understanding, the false prophet(s) were and are that spirit, intent and doctrine that says that Jesus was not the seed promised from God to mankind through Eve. Very similar to the "spirit" of anti-christ" They also may deny that his rein 'in the flesh' was meant to mean the reigh of his authority, teachings and truths as ingested and embodied by recievers of Him. This is wat john meant/said in I john 4 saying that the spirit or doctrine against christ denies his continuation indwelling believers. This point is confirmed in surrounding context.

If there was an individual anti-christ intended from any of johsns mentions it would have likely referred to Simon bar kochbah in 132-135 AD who embodied the combined rejection of what Christ brought. I believe he may have been Gog whom God said that HE was AGAINST or anti-.

If you wish to write an interestin screenplay connect with John Noe who's working on a story from yhe preterist perspective, or Hank Handegraff.

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Notrash · Mar 19, 2014

ebedmelech said:
I doubt anitchrist or the false prophet are persons.

It has nothing to do with the EU either (which is the thinking of so many).

It's about spiritual warfare...the weapons of our warfare are not carnal.

AGREED with the possible exception of Bar Kochbah referring to Glog, prince of the scattered descendants of the Assyrian concuest who came back into Judea after 70 AD and were reformed by the sanhedrain.

I don't know yet, still in the hypothesis stage.

tranquil · Mar 22, 2014

Douggg said:
Tranquil, I guess you don't have an actual start to finish scenario, but why make such a post? It's not helping anyone.

As to me having a "start to finish scenario", I'll have a better grasp of it after April.

As to me "Not helping anyone"....

Why do you say I'm "not helping anyone" - because it makes you afraid? Or because it annoys you?

Who else on this forum is telling people that Satan is roaming around looking for people to devour with his lies?

Psalm 69

16 Hear me, O Lord; for thy lovingkindness is good: turn unto me according to the multitude of thy tender mercies.
17 And hide not thy face from thy servant; for I am in trouble: hear me speedily.
18 Draw nigh unto my soul, and redeem it: deliver me because of mine enemies.
19 Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonour: mine adversaries are all before thee.
20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none.
21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
22Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.
23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.
24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.
25 Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their tents.

@Caleb

I just ask for the blood of Christ to wash over each and everyone of us here and for the spirit of fear to be commanded out in the name of Jesus along with all conspiracy theories and deception in the name of Jesus. Praise you Lord.

I started to get a bit dreadful and dark reading through this so we all put on our full armor of God, I know the enemy will attack us anyway possible. Thank you Lord.

Because you are scared, that makes me deceived and/ or a liar. Is that correct or not?

@Dougg,

All I'm trying to do is get people to see the "end-times" in the everyday world, and not in a beginning to end scenario. (Although that would be nice). The best I can do is see pieces here and there.

Here, watch this: American Blackout American Blackout 2013 - National Geographic - YouTube
In it, you can see
10 days of tribulation, destruction of Mystery Babylon, and lots of other stuff like the false prophet and the mark of the beast.

How did this all come to "accidentally" get in there? Concerning the "mark", it probably wouldn't occur to people to think of the Red Cross being the mark of the beast, but there it is.

See, that's the problem, we have been programmed with this stuff our whole lives, but because it is "ordinary", people don't think twice about it.

tranquil · Mar 22, 2014

And a couple more points @ Caleb, now that I'm riled up.

I have to question your motives for making a movie about the end-times. If you think that my post was overly dark and filled with oooh soo scary conspiracy theories,

1) I really wonder about your writing abilities, and

2) what business do you have writing a movie about the end of the world? I mean, seriously...

All your attitude tells me is that you merely want to titillate - not to educate. There are already a million harlots in Hollywood Babylon, on the TV set, posing as Christian material - "worshiping Jesus" but really, it's all in the name of making a buck.

What do you think the "myths" are here?

2 Tim 4:

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

Myths are movies, books, whatever kind of pablum that tickles people into turning to a fantasy world where they can "escape". I don't have a problem with fiction, but I do have a problem when it deceives people into thinking that the tribulation is all sweetness and light- and as an added bonus we get to "watch the plebes stuck down on earth" while we eat heavenly popcorn because we have been "magically whisked away". (The only real "rapture" is being gathered in the wilderness after God tells us to leave Babylon.)

After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was made bright with his glory. 2 And he called out with a mighty voice,“Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!
She has become a dwelling place for demons,
a haunt for every unclean spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast.
3 For all nations have drunk[a]
the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality,
and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her,
and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living.”

4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,
“Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;
5 for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.
6 Pay her back as she herself has paid back others,
and repay her double for her deeds;
mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed.
7 As she glorified herself and lived in luxury,
so give her a like measure of torment and mourning,
since in her heart she says,
‘I sit as a queen,
I am no widow,
and mourning I shall never see.’
8 For this reason her plagues will come in a single day,
death and mourning and famine,
and she will be burned up with fire;
for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her.”

Scary stuff, indeed.

Interplanner · Mar 22, 2014

The original OP question has to do with the calamity that hit Israel in the 1st generation of the church.

Will the false prophet be Israel's long-awaited "messiah king?"

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