Psalm 77:9 Has God forgotten to be merciful? Has he in anger withheld his compassion?
Isaiah 48:22 There is no peace, says the Lord, for the wicked.
Isaiah 48:22 There is no peace, says the Lord, for the wicked.
is trolling a sin? *moved from Computer & Internet forum*
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"I came to send fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how distressed I am till it is accomplished! Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division. For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Luke 12: 49-53.)
I mean I'm just saying. ][
I mean I'm just saying. ][
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"I came to send fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how distressed I am till it is accomplished! Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division. For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Luke 12: 49-53.)
I mean I'm just saying. ][
To be frank, I don't think you know what trolling is
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So this begs the question: was Jesus trolling (lol)? Srsly, He made a lot of people angry with His comments.
What's the difference between the strife stirred up by Jesus and sinful stirring of strife?
What's the difference between the strife stirred up by Jesus and sinful stirring of strife?
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Unlike what Jesus did, trolling always involves deceiving someone in some way in order to anger them.
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Hmm. Ok, but what if someone uses "stirring of strife" to manipulate their will on others? An example of that might be asserting that others follow one's own instruction, then upon encountering any resistance or disagreement, this is followed by anger and possibly accusations of divisiveness, etc.
Among children we would call it a temper tantrum. Among adults, we might call it a pecking order. If someone were to, say, intentionally ruffle the feathers of those willing to throw a temper tantrum in order to maintain some semblance of manipulative control over others, is that necessarily trolling? If not then where is the line between right and wrong, trolling, and whatever it is that Jesus was doing?
You say it's deception. Ok I can agree that lying ought not be condoned, but I think there is a big difference between setting one's self up to be attacked for ridiculous (or wrong) reasons, and telling Joe that Jim may have done something so that Joe wants to punch Jim in the face, and for no good reason other than to create strife between friends.
Among children we would call it a temper tantrum. Among adults, we might call it a pecking order. If someone were to, say, intentionally ruffle the feathers of those willing to throw a temper tantrum in order to maintain some semblance of manipulative control over others, is that necessarily trolling? If not then where is the line between right and wrong, trolling, and whatever it is that Jesus was doing?
You say it's deception. Ok I can agree that lying ought not be condoned, but I think there is a big difference between setting one's self up to be attacked for ridiculous (or wrong) reasons, and telling Joe that Jim may have done something so that Joe wants to punch Jim in the face, and for no good reason other than to create strife between friends.
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Trolling is a term for those uneducated in reality.
One either intentionally harms others secretly, cause they are afraid, or openly and intentionally cause they want attention,(whiney).
One is wicked or one isn't wicked. No matter how many lame terms pop up, evil is evil and good is good.
One either intentionally harms others secretly, cause they are afraid, or openly and intentionally cause they want attention,(whiney).
One is wicked or one isn't wicked. No matter how many lame terms pop up, evil is evil and good is good.
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Yes, it tends to cultivate an atmosphere illustrated in James Chapter 3 espousing demonic wisdom . bitter and envious individuals usually troll .
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Yes, of course it is a sin. Christians know the definition of sin and Trolling fits it.
Unfortunately, there are Trolls who love to sin because they know there is no accounting for it. They goad, bait, flame, defame, harass, and they're untouchable.
While their targets that they bait because the Troll feeds off of such antisocial behavior, suffer the repercussions if they dare call them what they are. TROLLS!
I lurked in a forum for a few weeks at invitation of a friend who was a member there. The staff assumed sock accounts just to Troll the forum! Their trolling increased pages on threads which in turn increased Advertisment space that benefited the owner.
Anyone who reported that Troll received a warning from them in their staff moderator guise.
Trolling is a sin.
Trolls have no soul.
Unfortunately, there are Trolls who love to sin because they know there is no accounting for it. They goad, bait, flame, defame, harass, and they're untouchable.
While their targets that they bait because the Troll feeds off of such antisocial behavior, suffer the repercussions if they dare call them what they are. TROLLS!
I lurked in a forum for a few weeks at invitation of a friend who was a member there. The staff assumed sock accounts just to Troll the forum! Their trolling increased pages on threads which in turn increased Advertisment space that benefited the owner.
Anyone who reported that Troll received a warning from them in their staff moderator guise.
Trolling is a sin.
Trolls have no soul.
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Nope, that is not trolling because there is no deception. Trolling is very specific: the use of deceit to cause someone else to be angry for one's own personal amusement or entertainment.
No, because there is no deceit.
Making someone mad by "ruffling feathers" and presenting your views to them has little to do with trolling. Trolling is always using deceit to bring about anger in another person for one's own personal amusement/entertainment.
No, not all deception is trolling, since not all deception brings about anger in another person, and even if it did, it may not be done for amusement/entertainment.
This could be trolling if you do not hold to those reasons and are doing it for your own amusement/entertainment
Not trolling unless done for personal amusement.
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I don't think you understand what this means. By giving you this award, they were implying that you are not actually a Christian, but pretending to be a Christian in order to anger people on the forum. Since you are actually a Christian, you weren't trolling, since you weren't actually trying to trick people into thinking you were a Christian.
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My bold. I agree with this. One can pretend to hold a view in order to parody a belief they find mistaken or to make a point about the normal arguments in favor or opposed to a particular POV on a subject, philosophy or belief , if those are the actual reasons but not simply to stir people up in order to entertain oneself or to make fun of another's ideas to make oneself feel superior. Parody is very tricky in that our own motivation may be hard for us to judge. Are we using parody to point out the weakness of our opponents arguments or are we using it to denigrate our opponent and lift ourselves up as the superior intellect?
Is trolling a sin? Well, if calling someone a fool( even if that person is a fool) or being angry(even if someone is being very annoying) or lusting in our hearts( even if we have no intention of following up on that lust) are all sins, then I suppose so is trolling.
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Not sure if this is trolling. Using parody to make a point about opposing arguments isn't trolling because it is done for a specific purpose besides entertainment/amusement. The way it would be trolling is only if one does not actually hold to those views and one is doing it to entertain or amuse oneself.
The reason trolling is sinful is because it always involves deceit and it always involves using someone else's pain (anger) for your own entertainment.
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