Mysteries of the Flood

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Originally Posted by Aman777
Dear Queller, Yes, but it reverts back to speak of the Flood, when describing the SNARE. Here's the verse:

Isaiah 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare:

The Snare is the Trap which God set with the Flood. It catches Evols in its trap, because it shows that the ToE is FALSE. Here is the description of the Snare:

for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
One, this claim contradicts the first six words of Isaiah 24:18 ""And it shall come to pass"

Dear Queller, It does come to pass at the end of time that he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the SNARE. Then the account identifies the SNARE as the Flood. Many teachers of Godless Evolutionism which have offended the little ones who believe in Jesus, will come up out of the pit or ground and be taken in the Snare of the Flood. Jesus tells us about their fate:

Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


Two: Isaiah 24:17 states that "Terror and pit and snare await you, people of the earth."

If the snare is the Flood from 1500 years earlier and is intended to catch "evols" then what are the terror and the pit and who are they intended to catch?

Terror and the pit await those who offend the little ones with the LIES of Godless Evolutionism. The first Humans came to this Planet in an Ark, and falsely teaching little ones that that is UnTrue and teaching the False Assumptions of Godless men instead, will not go unrewarded. Terror and the pit, awaits those who teach Evol Lies to innocent children.
Humans came to our Planet from Adam's world which was "clean dissolved" in the waters of the Flood.
You keep having to change verse tenses to support your claim "is dissolved" in the verse becomes "was dissolved" in your argument.

That's because it's written in Hebrew perfect tense, which means the action has already been completed. IOW, it's in the past.

Stem: Hithpoel
Aspect: Perfect
* The Hithpoel Perfect verb form occurs 2 times in the Old Testament.

Definition of "Perfect"

The Perfect expresses a completed action.

You are confusing the tenses of English with the tenses of the Hebrews.

We did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes as the ToE falsely assumes. Evols have forced their False assumptions upon our children for more than 50 years now.
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"Evols" don't assume anything.

Sure they do. They observe the Facts which point to Evolism and then they Falsely ASSUME their Theory. That's what a scientific Theory is. It's an educated assumption based on facts which leads to their assumption. The problem with the ToE is that it is based on InComplete data since the scientists have rejected God's Truth which shows that Humans were made on another world.

I would also think that if the world WAS "clean dissolved" in the Noachian Deluge, it would have been mentioned in the Genesis accounts.

Many believe the Bible should be written in other ways, but God doesn't agree. Here's the way God is:

Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
BTW, this could not be referring to events yet to come since God promised Noah that NEVER again would a Flood destroy the Earth. Gen 9:11 Our Earth is NOT the one which was clean dissolved in the Flood because it's a Rock, and water covers it but doesn't dissolve it. It's just another difference between Adam's earth and the present earth. God Bless you.
That might be an argument if Isaiah 24 only spoke of a flood destroying the earth. However it also speaks of droughts (Isaiah 24:4) and fire (Isaiah 24:6).

You must believe that each chapter of Scripture speaks of the same thing throughout the entire chapter. It's not so, since God conceals His Truth from Unbelievers. This is clear when you read the PROPHECY of Genesis 1:28-31. This prophecy will NOT be fulfilled until AFTER Jesus returns to the Earth at the end of time. Isaiah 11 tells of the fulfillment of the prophecy at the end of the present 6th Day. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 
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Originally Posted by Aman777
Dear mzungu, False. Adam was made the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 BEFORE the Stars were made on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 This gives us a good date to start from since it was some 13.7 billion years ago, in man's time, when the first stars of our Cosmos lit up.
And that is contradicted by Genesis 1:26-31 which states that Adam is made on the sixth day, two days AFTER the "first stars of our cosmos lit up".

How do you reconcile the two logically?

Dear Queller, Genesis 2:4-7 tells us that man was "FORMED" on the 3rd Day after the Earth was made Genesis 1:9-10 but BEFORE the plants which grew on the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:12

This is the account of when YHWH/Jesus made Adam a living soul, physically, from the dust of the ground.

Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 5:1-2 show that Adam and Eve were both "created in God's Image" on the 6th Day. It takes the AGREEMENT of the Trinity to Create a New Christian, Spiritually, Eternally. Genesis 1:26 and John 14:16.

This is also confirmed by this verse from the New Testament:

1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 
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Originally Posted by Aman777
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, (Greek-God Breathed) and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Which in no way means it is without error. In fact the presence of errors could be God's encouragement of critical thinking instead of unquestioning acceptance.

Dear Queller, How is one saved apart from believing in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, which you see errors in?
Can you show us one?
How many blind men did heal Jesus at Jericho? 1, 2, 3, or 4?

Two.Mar 10:46 And they came to Jericho: and as He went out of Jericho with His disciples and a great number of people, blind Bartimaeus, the son of Timaeus, sat by the highway side begging.

Luke confirms this:

Luk 18:35 And it came to pass, that as He was come nigh unto Jericho, a certain blind man sat by the way side begging:

One was as He came into Jericho and one when He left.

In Love,
Aman
 
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Anything that has a supernatural cause would be un-falsifiable.
You're catching on to what we've been saying.

Just pick one event and test your theory:

1. Calming the storm – Matthew 8:23-27; Mark 4:37-41; Luke 8:22-25

2. Feeding 5,000 - Matthew 14:14-21; Mark 6:30-44; Luke 9:10-17; John 6:1-14

3. Walking on water - Matthew 14:22-32; Mark 6:47-52; John 6:16-21

4. Feeding 4,000 – Matthew 15:32-39; Mark 8:1-9

5. Fish with coin – Matthew 17:24-27

6. Fig tree withers – Matthew 21:18-22; Mark 11:12-14, 20-25

7. Huge catch of fish – Luke 5:4-11; John 21:1-11

8. Water into wine – John 2:1-11

Healing of Individuals

1. Man with leprosy – Matthew 8:1-4; Mark 1:40-44; Luke 5:12-14

2. Roman centurion’s servant – Matthew 8:5-13; Luke 7:1-10

3. Peter’s mother-in-law – Matthew 8:14-15; Mark 1:30-31; Luke 4:38-39

4. Two men possessed with devils – Matthew 8:28-34; Mark 5:1-15; Luke 8:27-39

5. Man with palsy – Matthew 9:2-7; Mark 2:3-12; Luke 5:18-26

6. Woman with bleeding – Matthew 9:20-22; Mark 5:25-34; Luke 8:43-48

7. Two blind men – Matthew 9:27-31
My theory:confused: What exactly do you mean by that:confused: Do you understand the scientific meaning of the word theory:confused:
 
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Anything that has a supernatural cause would be un-falsifiable.
You're catching on to what we've been saying.

Just pick one event and test your theory:

1. Calming the storm – Matthew 8:23-27; Mark 4:37-41; Luke 8:22-25

2. Feeding 5,000 - Matthew 14:14-21; Mark 6:30-44; Luke 9:10-17; John 6:1-14

3. Walking on water - Matthew 14:22-32; Mark 6:47-52; John 6:16-21

4. Feeding 4,000 – Matthew 15:32-39; Mark 8:1-9

5. Fish with coin – Matthew 17:24-27

6. Fig tree withers – Matthew 21:18-22; Mark 11:12-14, 20-25

7. Huge catch of fish – Luke 5:4-11; John 21:1-11

8. Water into wine – John 2:1-11

Healing of Individuals

1. Man with leprosy – Matthew 8:1-4; Mark 1:40-44; Luke 5:12-14

2. Roman centurion’s servant – Matthew 8:5-13; Luke 7:1-10

3. Peter’s mother-in-law – Matthew 8:14-15; Mark 1:30-31; Luke 4:38-39

4. Two men possessed with devils – Matthew 8:28-34; Mark 5:1-15; Luke 8:27-39

5. Man with palsy – Matthew 9:2-7; Mark 2:3-12; Luke 5:18-26

6. Woman with bleeding – Matthew 9:20-22; Mark 5:25-34; Luke 8:43-48

7. Two blind men – Matthew 9:27-31

Not exactly an impressive list for a someone who could, apparently, work genuine miracles whenever he wanted. I wonder what the creationist excuse for the list being so rubbish is.
 
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Not exactly an impressive list for a someone who could, apparently, work genuine miracles whenever he wanted. I wonder what the creationist excuse for the list being so rubbish is.

He's saving the good ones for later.

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
 
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He's saving the good ones for later.

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

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I have found that this picture sums up most misconceptions quite nicely:

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Mitochondrial Eve was just one of many of your ancestors that all lived at the same time. The same for Y-chromosome Adam.

What is interesting is in rare cases (no confirmed human cases, but it has been seen in other mammals from time to time) is when that whole system fudges up and offspring inherits their father's mitochondria.
 
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What is interesting is in rare cases (no confirmed human cases, but it has been seen in other mammals from time to time) is when that whole system fudges up and offspring inherits their father's mitochondria.

As long as it isn't widespread it won't fudge up the overall genealogies. If the father's mitochondria is inherited it is no differen than inheriting the mtDNA from their paternal grandmother. One tiny switch in one family is not going to bring the whole human lineage house down.
 
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As long as it isn't widespread it won't fudge up the overall genealogies. If the father's mitochondria is inherited it is no differen than inheriting the mtDNA from their paternal grandmother. One tiny switch in one family is not going to bring the whole human lineage house down.

Never said it would, just that it is interesting.
 
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Dear Queller, It does come to pass at the end of time that he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the SNARE.
Time has not ended yet.

Then the account identifies the SNARE as the Flood. Many teachers of Godless Evolutionism which have offended the little ones who believe in Jesus, will come up out of the pit or ground and be taken in the Snare of the Flood. Jesus tells us about their fate:

Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.




Terror and the pit await those who offend the little ones with the LIES of Godless Evolutionism. The first Humans came to this Planet in an Ark, and falsely teaching little ones that that is UnTrue and teaching the False Assumptions of Godless men instead, will not go unrewarded. Terror and the pit, awaits those who teach Evol Lies to innocent children.
Humans came to our Planet from Adam's world which was "clean dissolved" in the waters of the Flood.
I'm sorry, but I can find no Biblical commentary that agrees with you on this. Why is your interpretation better than others?

That's because it's written in Hebrew perfect tense, which means the action has already been completed. IOW, it's in the past.

Stem: Hithpoel
Aspect: Perfect
* The Hithpoel Perfect verb form occurs 2 times in the Old Testament.

Definition of "Perfect"

The Perfect expresses a completed action.

You are confusing the tenses of English with the tenses of the Hebrews.
That's because Isaiah 24 is comparing the destruction of the world to come to the destruction of the destruction of the Flood.

We did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes as the ToE falsely assumes. Evols have forced their False assumptions upon our children for more than 50 years now.
"Evols" do not assume this. They conclude it from mountains of evidence, most of it genetic.

Sure they do. They observe the Facts which point to Evolism and then they Falsely ASSUME their Theory. That's what a scientific Theory is. It's an educated assumption based on facts which leads to their assumption. The problem with the ToE is that it is based on InComplete data since the scientists have rejected God's Truth which shows that Humans were made on another world.
You and dad should discuss this. He thinks this world was in a different state in the past where all physical laws were different and you think this entire world has existed for only 4500 years.

And neither one of you can support your claims with anything other than your own interpretation of the Bible, which no one else shares.

Many believe the Bible should be written in other ways, but God doesn't agree. Here's the way God is:

Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
BTW, this could not be referring to events yet to come since God promised Noah that NEVER again would a Flood destroy the Earth. Gen 9:11 Our Earth is NOT the one which was clean dissolved in the Flood because it's a Rock, and water covers it but doesn't dissolve it. It's just another difference between Adam's earth and the present earth. God Bless you.
You must believe that each chapter of Scripture speaks of the same thing throughout the entire chapter. It's not so, since God conceals His Truth from Unbelievers. This is clear when you read the PROPHECY of Genesis 1:28-31. This prophecy will NOT be fulfilled until AFTER Jesus returns to the Earth at the end of time. Isaiah 11 tells of the fulfillment of the prophecy at the end of the present 6th Day. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
Completely unsupported imaginings.
 
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Originally Posted by Aman777
Dear mzungu, False. Adam was made the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 BEFORE the Stars were made on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 This gives us a good date to start from since it was some 13.7 billion years ago, in man's time, when the first stars of our Cosmos lit up.
Dear Queller, Genesis 2:4-7 tells us that man was "FORMED" on the 3rd Day after the Earth was made Genesis 1:9-10 but BEFORE the plants which grew on the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:12

This is the account of when YHWH/Jesus made Adam a living soul, physically, from the dust of the ground.

Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 5:1-2 show that Adam and Eve were both "created in God's Image" on the 6th Day. It takes the AGREEMENT of the Trinity to Create a New Christian, Spiritually, Eternally. Genesis 1:26 and John 14:16.

This is also confirmed by this verse from the New Testament:

1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
So then what is the image of God that Adam was made to look like in Genesis 1 if not his soul? And why is this making of the physical body on day 3 not mentioned in Genesis 1? Wouldn't not mentioning it on day 3 mean that God did not consider the body good?
 
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