Mysteries of the Flood

mzungu · Feb 5, 2014

Aman777 said:
Dear mzungu, False. Sumerian mythology knew NOTHING of Adam's world, which was totally destroyed in the Flood. To believe it does, shows that you cannot understand Genesis one. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

The Biblical Adam of Genesis post dates the Sumerian myth! Obviously they did not know about the Bible as it was not yet written. Whether I understand Genesis or not makes no difference as it still remains a myth. The same can be said of Hindu mythology. Were I to state that you do not understand it will not change the fact that it is also still mythology.

SkyWriting · Feb 5, 2014

mzungu said:
The Biblical Adam of Genesis post dates the Sumerian myth!

On the theory that Adam was the first man, it makes no difference what the publishing date is of any particular version of the story.

Aman777 · Feb 5, 2014

mzungu said:
The Biblical Adam of Genesis post dates the Sumerian myth!

Dear mzungu, False. Adam was made the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 BEFORE the Stars were made on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 This gives us a good date to start from since it was some 13.7 billion years ago, in man's time, when the first stars of our Cosmos lit up.

Obviously they did not know about the Bible as it was not yet written.

Sure it was, in the Author's mind. The Author is God, the Holy Spirit. He sees the end from the beginning. That is WHY He tells us of things such as the FACT that we live in a Multiverse. Hopefully, today's European scientists, will discover this Truth, this year. It could be NASA if the do nothing Republicans had not cut the funds.

Whether I understand Genesis or not makes no difference as it still remains a myth.

False. Satan's first words were "hath God said"? Today's followers of the darkness continue to question the Truth of God's Holy Word. It gives them away and destroys their testimony since it reveals that they CANNOT understand Scripture. 1Cr 2:14

The same can be said of Hindu mythology. Were I to state that you do not understand it will not change the fact that it is also still mythology.

It's not the same unless you can refute the evidence which God shows us in Genesis:

God tells us we live in a Multiverse. Gen 1:6-8 and Gen 2:4
He also tells us the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
He tells us that every living creature was brought forth from the water. Gen 1:21 This agrees with the scientific FACT that cells cannot live without liquid water.

It's NOT myth when God reveals His supreme intelligence, which agrees with the latest discoveries of science and history, in the first part of Genesis. It's PROOF of God unless you can tell us HOW ancient men, who lived thousands of years before Science, knew that? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

PsychoSarah · Feb 5, 2014

Aman777 said:
Dear PS, You have identified the Miracle that God, even though He is working through sinful man, has brought us His Truth to us, down through thousands of years. When you really understand Genesis, you will see that God wrote the entire HISTORY of the Creation of the THIRD Heaven, in the first Chapter of Genesis. This History includes events which will NOT take place until AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet at the end of the present 6th Day or Age.

Isaiah 11 shows the fulfillment of the prophecy of Genesis 1:28-31 which is FUTURE to 2014. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

No, I see an ancient view of how the world came into existence as it is today. Plus, the bible's authors were human, and since god did not directly write the bible, there is still the possibility of human error. Not to mention various errors made as it was translated into different languages.

mzungu · Feb 5, 2014

SkyWriting said:
On the theory that Adam was the first man, it makes no difference what the publishing date is of any particular version of the story.

Theory??? There is no theory of Adam. Adam and Eve are mythological figures along with Cyclops, unicorn, etc.

NannaNae · Feb 5, 2014

wow.. this thread is de-evolving at about the same rate mankind is.

CabVet · Feb 5, 2014

NannaNae said:
wow.. this thread is de-evolving at about the same rate mankind is.

If you think "mankind is de-evolving", you have no idea what evolution is.

PsychoSarah · Feb 5, 2014

NannaNae said:
wow.. this thread is de-evolving at about the same rate mankind is.

De-evolving doesn't actually happen.

mzungu · Feb 5, 2014

NannaNae said:
wow.. this thread is de-evolving at about the same rate mankind is.

On the contrary my dear; The process of evolution is here to stay. As for the thread "de-evolving" I beg to differ as the flood and Genesis have something in common: They are both myths of the Abrahamic religions. They both belong to the supernatural and un-falsifiable. Refute the one and automatically the other is refuted too. :wave:

Aman777 · Feb 5, 2014

PsychoSarah said:
No, I see an ancient view of how the world came into existence as it is today.

Dear PS, That's strange since the ancient view is NOT in Scripture. Must I accept your personal opinion which is NOT Scriptural? That would mean that I put more faith in your words than God's, and that's just wrong.

Plus, the bible's authors were human, and since god did not directly write the bible, there is still the possibility of human error.

Who told you such nonsense? Here is what the Bible says:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, (Greek-God Breathed) and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Scripture also explains HOW God breathed His Truth to the men who penned His words:

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What Unbelievers cannot understand is that God is WITHIN the people who wrote the Bible. That is WHY Genesis tells us we live in a Multiverse. God knew but NO ancient man could have possibly known this. It's PROOF that ONLY God could have possibly authored Genesis.

Not to mention various errors made as it was translated into different languages.

Can you show us one? Or are you just parroting what you have been told? Satan has been around a long time telling people his Lies. Do you find more in common with him or with Jesus? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Queller · Feb 5, 2014

Aman777 said:
Dear Queller, Yes, but it reverts back to speak of the Flood, when describing the SNARE. Here's the verse:

Isaiah 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare:

The Snare is the Trap which God set with the Flood. It catches Evols in its trap, because it shows that the ToE is FALSE. Here is the description of the Snare:

for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

One, this claim contradicts the first six words of Isaiah 24:18 ""And it shall come to pass"

Two: Isaiah 24:17 states that "Terror and pit and snare await you, people of the earth."

If the snare is the Flood from 1500 years earlier and is intended to catch "evols" then what are the terror and the pit and who are they intended to catch?

Humans came to our Planet from Adam's world which was "clean dissolved" in the waters of the Flood.

You keep having to change verse tenses to support your claim "is dissolved" in the verse becomes "was dissolved" in your argument.

We did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes as the ToE falsely assumes. Evols have forced their False assumptions upon our children for more than 50 years now.
[/quote] "Evols" don't assume anything.

I would also think that if the world WAS "clean dissolved" in the Noachian Deluge, it would have been mentioned in the Genesis accounts.

BTW, this could not be referring to events yet to come since God promised Noah that NEVER again would a Flood destroy the Earth. Gen 9:11 Our Earth is NOT the one which was clean dissolved in the Flood because it's a Rock, and water covers it but doesn't dissolve it. It's just another difference between Adam's earth and the present earth. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

That might be an argument if Isaiah 24 only spoke of a flood destroying the earth. However it also speaks of droughts (Isaiah 24:4) and fire (Isaiah 24:6).

Queller · Feb 5, 2014

PsychoSarah said:
And what? The sun explodes and the whole solar system is destroyed, that's it.

I know. I'm not arguing otherwise.

Queller · Feb 5, 2014

Aman777 said:
Dear mzungu, False. Adam was made the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 BEFORE the Stars were made on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 This gives us a good date to start from since it was some 13.7 billion years ago, in man's time, when the first stars of our Cosmos lit up.

And that is contradicted by Genesis 1:26-31 which states that Adam is made on the sixth day, two days AFTER the "first stars of our cosmos lit up".

How do you reconcile the two logically?

PsychoSarah · Feb 5, 2014

Aman777 said:
Dear PS, That's strange since the ancient view is NOT in Scripture. Must I accept your personal opinion which is NOT Scriptural? That would mean that I put more faith in your words than God's, and that's just wrong.

Who told you such nonsense? Here is what the Bible says:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, (Greek-God Breathed) and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Scripture also explains HOW God breathed His Truth to the men who penned His words:

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What Unbelievers cannot understand is that God is WITHIN the people who wrote the Bible. That is WHY Genesis tells us we live in a Multiverse. God knew but NO ancient man could have possibly known this. It's PROOF that ONLY God could have possibly authored Genesis.

Can you show us one? Or are you just parroting what you have been told? Satan has been around a long time telling people his Lies. Do you find more in common with him or with Jesus? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Oh, the mistranslations tend to occur because many languages have words with no direct word that is in another languages (for example, many Asian languages contain words for emotions that have no specific label in English. One such example roughly translates as "the disruptive combination of excitement and surprise").

Women âShould Remain Silentâ - A Study of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 | Grace Communion International

One such example is when Paul supposedly bans women from speaking in church. The word speak is an incorrect translation; a better word would be chatter (Paul didn't appreciate it when he saw women socializing in church rather than listening to the scripture). Gossip is also an acceptable translation. Now this may seem relatively minor, but it does have an impact on the implications of the passage.

Queller · Feb 5, 2014

Aman777 said:
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, (Greek-God Breathed) and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Which in no way means it is without error. In fact the presence of errors could be God's encouragement of critical thinking instead of unquestioning acceptance.

Can you show us one?

How many blind men did heal Jesus at Jericho? 1, 2, 3, or 4?

HitchSlap · Feb 5, 2014

NannaNae said:
wow.. this thread is de-evolving at about the same rate mankind is.

That's kinda' like going back to the future, c'ept differnt'.

SkyWriting · Feb 5, 2014

mzungu said:
Theory??? There is no theory of Adam. Adam and Eve are mythological figures along with Cyclops, unicorn, etc.

That is your theory. I would need to show any published works if I disagreed.

Helping Eve overcome ADAM: G-quadruplexes in the ADAM-15 promoter as new molecular targets for breast cancer therapeutics.

Genetic Adam and Eve did not live too far apart in time

Genetic Adam and Eve may have walked on Earth at the same time
New study places ancestor of all Y chromosomes much earlier than previous work.

ADAM AND EVE THEORY - by Miss Shamim Anwar

The AdamGod doctrine (or AdamGod theory)

SkyWriting · Feb 5, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Yes, in the Bible, some followed the calling that their name gave to them.

When God blessed Abram, He changed his name to Abraham.

Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter.

That almost sounds scientific, slapping new names on things.

Sayre · Feb 5, 2014

SkyWriting said:
That is your theory. I would need to show any published works if I disagreed.

Helping Eve overcome ADAM: G-quadruplexes in the ADAM-15 promoter as new molecular targets for breast cancer therapeutics.

Genetic Adam and Eve did not live too far apart in time

Genetic Adam and Eve may have walked on Earth at the same time
New study places ancestor of all Y chromosomes much earlier than previous work.

ADAM AND EVE THEORY - by Miss Shamim Anwar

The AdamGod doctrine (or AdamGod theory)

PRATT

SkyWriting · Feb 5, 2014

mzungu said:
On the contrary my dear; The process of evolution is here to stay. As for the thread "de-evolving" I beg to differ as the flood and Genesis have something in common: They are both myths of the Abrahamic religions. They both belong to the supernatural and un-falsifiable.

Anything that has a supernatural cause would be un-falsifiable.
You're catching on to what we've been saying.

Just pick one event and test your theory:

1. Calming the storm – Matthew 8:23-27; Mark 4:37-41; Luke 8:22-25

2. Feeding 5,000 - Matthew 14:14-21; Mark 6:30-44; Luke 9:10-17; John 6:1-14

3. Walking on water - Matthew 14:22-32; Mark 6:47-52; John 6:16-21

4. Feeding 4,000 – Matthew 15:32-39; Mark 8:1-9

5. Fish with coin – Matthew 17:24-27

6. Fig tree withers – Matthew 21:18-22; Mark 11:12-14, 20-25

7. Huge catch of fish – Luke 5:4-11; John 21:1-11

8. Water into wine – John 2:1-11

Healing of Individuals

1. Man with leprosy – Matthew 8:1-4; Mark 1:40-44; Luke 5:12-14

2. Roman centurion’s servant – Matthew 8:5-13; Luke 7:1-10

3. Peter’s mother-in-law – Matthew 8:14-15; Mark 1:30-31; Luke 4:38-39

4. Two men possessed with devils – Matthew 8:28-34; Mark 5:1-15; Luke 8:27-39

5. Man with palsy – Matthew 9:2-7; Mark 2:3-12; Luke 5:18-26

6. Woman with bleeding – Matthew 9:20-22; Mark 5:25-34; Luke 8:43-48

7. Two blind men – Matthew 9:27-31

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