What will determine whether one is a wheat or a tare?

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I heard from a brother who asked me this question. I pray the answer blesses.

I can't quite fully grasp this letting go epiphany you got from God as a tangible, saving, living thing that changed you. could you expound more on this "meat" that you are talking about that clearly shows the difference between the wheat & the chaff?

god bless & thank you!


Thanks for writing, I hope I can clarify a bit.

What will eventually be the fork in the road that separates the sheep from the goats? The wheat from the chaff? Is it sin? No, that was taken care of on Calvary... IF... if we continue to repent and follow after the Lord. The danger of sin lies not in itself, for it can always be washed away, even if it is seventy times seven, amen? The danger lies in the fact that sin allowed to remain in a believers heart hardens it to hear God's voice. Our conscience begins to get glazed over. We go from heart faith to mind faith and finally end up with simply intellectual acknowledgement, the very same faith that the demons have. The problem is, they tremble, we do not.

The war satan is waging is against our faith. Sin is simply a means to an end.

So, how do we fight him? How can we remain secure in Christ? Our biggest weapon up to date has been... forgiveness. We are armed with no weapons to fight, except our resolve and will power, and they ALWAYS eventually fail, amen? Sp, we sin, we repent. We resolve to 'do better'. But we do not see that we cannot do better. if we are in our old nature, we are under the grip of the law, for we believe in our hearts that we are NOT dead, that sin cannot be defeated, that old things are NOT passed away. So our shield of faith is not up, and offers us no protection.

The law has sway over a man as long as he lives, right? If we have not reckoned our old nature as dead and are not found yielding ourselves to God as those who are alive from the dead, we have placed ourselves back under the law voluntarily. We may deny it doctrinally, and quote all the right verses, but the truth is, regardless of what we think intellectually, our lack of faith in what Jesus has really done for us has placed us firmly under the grip of the law and the result is? Sin still reigns over us.

Does this mean we are bound for hell? Not at all, if we protect our hearts and repent and mean it, every time we fall. But there is the danger as I have shown. Eventually, our repentance gets more and more shallow till it is simply going through the motions with a weak "God understands, 'cause I am only human." There is great danger here.

So then, where is there safety? In the new man, for here is the sanctuary, the place of safety from sin hardening our hearts, where we are not under law! Here there is no sin for there is no law. We must understand though, when we first make our declaration of DEPENDANCE, our faith is real faith, but it is weak. Like a toddler trying to learn to walk, we do occasionally fall. Like before, we confess. We repent, but now there is another critical step. We believe again that old things are passed away and that sin has no dominion over us! We confess that we are NOT in the flesh, but in the Spirit, and owe the flesh NOTHING (Romans 7). The door satan tried to wedge back open is slammed back in his face and it frustrates him to no end! LOL. SAnd every time that happens, our faith GROWS.

Ultimately, here is the determining factor of the wheat, who WILL go in amd find safety as this revelation is given again by the Spirit to the church, and the tares, who will not. The issue is Lordship, who is in charge, who owns us.

The tares will be satisfied with forgiveness.... salvation... having resisted the draw of the Spirit to run into Him for safety, where Jesus is both savior AND Lord. They will refuse to come, finding themselves content to just get to Heaven, as they continue to run their own lives. They are content with religion and doctrines, and a little sin, a little half-hearted repentance and them still on their throne. They will want to remain in the flesh, even though they are told that those who are in this state cannot please God. They will balk at paying the cost, losing their own life.

The wheat will hate the sin in them that dishonors their God, and know that it is their flesh that is the culprit. They will willingly run into Him, even if it means they lose "their" life, because in exchange, they get His! They follow the master, and do what the spirit bids them do. They love the light and want all of its fulness iin them, so that it is no more them that live, but Christ who now lives in them." (Galatians 2:20)

Sp, we can see ultimately, the factors are-

1) Do we love the light or hate it? Are we willing to flee the darkness, even if it is in our own hearts?

2) Do we long to lose our life to find His in us or do we chafe at the suggestion that we need to and think this is "legalism"?


God will eventually open the eyes of any who wants the truth to reign in their hearts and breathe on their faith to believe the unbelievable, that we are new creatures and that sin has no more power over us. He will have a church without spot or wrinkle. But unless we want to be without spot or wrinkle as well, and know we cannot do that, and seek a deeper level of grace where He causes us to walk obediently (Ezekiel 36), our hearts will continue to get harder and harder and the real danger is that we can fall away by walking away. Our faith will have been choked out by the love of ourselves, and the cares of this life. May it not happen to any listening.

God is calling us to the 'good fight of faith", so that we might become 'established" in the truth and when we do, we will find that our Lord was not exaggerating when He told us that He would set us free indeed. Traise God.

I pray this helps. If there are any other questions, I will do my best to answer them. Remember always, God is looking at the state of our hearts, not our doctrines or how we appear to other men.

Blessings,

Gideon
 

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Gid, no, it's all very simple, those who have the seal of God, are safe at the day of redemption. best thing my dear bro, think guarantee, and seal....:thumbsup:

They either got the seal, or they don't....




Eph 2:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory

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2 Cor 5:5 He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.

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Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.



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They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green plant or any tree, but only those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.



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12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed, 12,000 from the tribe of Reuben, 12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
 
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Gideon that verse is not talking about christians, its talking about professors!

Mat 7:21-23 KJV Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

If you are saying it is talking about a christian, how can Jesus say that i never knew you?

In that day all those professors will look and see and realise that our Lord Jesus Christ is GOD, and they will start telling him how they did all these things in His name, thinking that works is what saves them but they will find out that works will not get them in to heaven.

My friend gideons300, that verse you love so much is not referring to christians.
 
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1Ti 5:24 The sins of some people are obvious, leading them to judgment. The sins of others follow them there.

I think this verse is interesting, some people are clearly in sin, and judgment is expected. However others sins are less obvious, but the result is the same judgment.

I agree with this statement:

The danger lies in the fact that sin allowed to remain in a believers heart hardens it to hear God's voice. Our conscience begins to get glazed over. We go from heart faith to mind faith and finally end up with simply intellectual acknowledgement

There is a distinction between those who do good and evil. It is true that those who serve the LORD will be blessed.

Mal 3:16-17 Then those who feared the LORD talked with each other. The LORD listened and took note, and a scroll of remembrance was written in his presence about those who fear the LORD and honor His name. "They'll be mine," says the LORD of the Heavenly Armies, "in the day when I prepare my treasured possession. I'll spare them, just as a man spares his own son who serves him.

But I think the problem for the lukewarm is they are under God's curse. When you sin there is a curse, the curse causes us to move away from God. But when we purify our heart God begins to bless us, this blessing protects our heart.

However we need to see the benefit of the curse, remember the prodigal son, he began to feel the want, the suffering, and he determined to return to his father. The curse can drive us back to God. Or if we are stubborn straight to hell.

Job 36:9-14 he'll reveal their actions to them, when their transgressions have become excessive. He opens their ears and instructs them, commanding them to repent from evil. If they listen and serve him, they'll finish their lives in prosperity and their years will be pleasant. "But if they won't listen, they'll perish by the sword and die in their ignorance. The godless at heart cherishes anger; they won't cry out for help when God afflicts them. They die in their youth; and their life will end among temple prostitutes.



 
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If you know anything about farming the chaff is the outer layer of the wheat and cannot be separated until the wheat is fully mature and is golden in color. There is no separation of the wheat and the chaff until this maturity is reached. The whole plant is green and in a development state and the wheat and the chaff are all one and the same, the chaff being the outer protective covering of the wheat. It is when it is mature the chaff loses its Devine purpose and the wheat can become bread.
 
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As I peruse some of the comments and many other comments over the whole forum, I believe that many believers don’t believe they are sealed, saved and delivered, and that worries me, because they are not certain that they are sheep and the wheat.

Those people who believe they are sheep and wheat, I would like them to sit down quietly and ask our Lord to show them all the people who have offended and hurt them over their entire life, dead or alive, and write their names down immediately. Then as you contemplate on the great list of names, and I just wonder how many people you haven’t really forgiven, and don’t love?

And after that, you could then reconcile your life of the number of times you have sinned, and you say sorry, but you didn’t go into prayer asking HIM to forgive you, and REPENT you sin. And what about the people you hurt and offended in your life time and you need forgiveness from them. Now are you squeaky clean?

No doubt those hypocrites, wayside, stony, thorny, lukewarm half-hearted Christians are sure to be a candidate of being a goat and tares. I guess false teachers of the Body of Christ do produce those candidates for processing.

Yep, our Lord explained the Parable of the Sower in depth, but the Church still ignores the six levels of heart soil and probably breeds more wayside, stony, and thorny Christians than 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold. The wayside, stony and thorny Christians will need to be very concerned when the day of separation begins.

Now after you have checked your “unforgiveness” scale out, and your “repentance” scale, then we can progress to how much do we submit and draw near to HIM. While we are sticking our chest out and claiming that we are submitted and draw near to HIM, did we ask ourself if our hands are cleansed and our heart purified. Then while we are doing that are we sure that we are resisting Satan and his forces, and being humble. (See James 4:7-10)

I picture Paul who suffered beltings, whipping, stoning, being robbed, attacked by lions and bears, bitten by a snake, shipwrecked, and everyone wanted to kill him. And I now wonder if any believer who has had such a soft ride can claim that they are definitely the sheep and the wheat. Let’s be honest, where do we really stand?

After assessing ourselves, do we really fulfil HIS Commission?

Is our “house” really “filled” and not “empty”, “cleanse and purified” and not “swept”, and “walking in submission” and “resisting Satan and his forces” and not “put in order” (See Luke 11:24-26)

I guess any disobedience of HIS Commission could be a rubber stamp for goats and tares!

Of course this is only my opinion, but look up and ask HIM!
 
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I heard from a brother who asked me this question. I pray the answer blesses.

I can't quite fully grasp this letting go epiphany you got from God as a tangible, saving, living thing that changed you. could you expound more on this "meat" that you are talking about that clearly shows the difference between the wheat & the chaff?

god bless & thank you!


Thanks for writing, I hope I can clarify a bit.

What will eventually be the fork in the road that separates the sheep from the goats? The wheat from the chaff? Is it sin? No, that was taken care of on Calvary... IF... if we continue to repent and follow after the Lord. The danger of sin lies not in itself, for it can always be washed away, even if it is seventy times seven, amen? The danger lies in the fact that sin allowed to remain in a believers heart hardens it to hear God's voice. Our conscience begins to get glazed over. We go from heart faith to mind faith and finally end up with simply intellectual acknowledgement, the very same faith that the demons have. The problem is, they tremble, we do not.

The war satan is waging is against our faith. Sin is simply a means to an end.

So, how do we fight him? How can we remain secure in Christ? Our biggest weapon up to date has been... forgiveness. We are armed with no weapons to fight, except our resolve and will power, and they ALWAYS eventually fail, amen? Sp, we sin, we repent. We resolve to 'do better'. But we do not see that we cannot do better. if we are in our old nature, we are under the grip of the law, for we believe in our hearts that we are NOT dead, that sin cannot be defeated, that old things are NOT passed away. So our shield of faith is not up, and offers us no protection.

The law has sway over a man as long as he lives, right? If we have not reckoned our old nature as dead and are not found yielding ourselves to God as those who are alive from the dead, we have placed ourselves back under the law voluntarily. We may deny it doctrinally, and quote all the right verses, but the truth is, regardless of what we think intellectually, our lack of faith in what Jesus has really done for us has placed us firmly under the grip of the law and the result is? Sin still reigns over us.

Does this mean we are bound for hell? Not at all, if we protect our hearts and repent and mean it, every time we fall. But there is the danger as I have shown. Eventually, our repentance gets more and more shallow till it is simply going through the motions with a weak "God understands, 'cause I am only human." There is great danger here.

So then, where is there safety? In the new man, for here is the sanctuary, the place of safety from sin hardening our hearts, where we are not under law! Here there is no sin for there is no law. We must understand though, when we first make our declaration of DEPENDANCE, our faith is real faith, but it is weak. Like a toddler trying to learn to walk, we do occasionally fall. Like before, we confess. We repent, but now there is another critical step. We believe again that old things are passed away and that sin has no dominion over us! We confess that we are NOT in the flesh, but in the Spirit, and owe the flesh NOTHING (Romans 7). The door satan tried to wedge back open is slammed back in his face and it frustrates him to no end! LOL. SAnd every time that happens, our faith GROWS.

Ultimately, here is the determining factor of the wheat, who WILL go in amd find safety as this revelation is given again by the Spirit to the church, and the tares, who will not. The issue is Lordship, who is in charge, who owns us.

The tares will be satisfied with forgiveness.... salvation... having resisted the draw of the Spirit to run into Him for safety, where Jesus is both savior AND Lord. They will refuse to come, finding themselves content to just get to Heaven, as they continue to run their own lives. They are content with religion and doctrines, and a little sin, a little half-hearted repentance and them still on their throne. They will want to remain in the flesh, even though they are told that those who are in this state cannot please God. They will balk at paying the cost, losing their own life.

The wheat will hate the sin in them that dishonors their God, and know that it is their flesh that is the culprit. They will willingly run into Him, even if it means they lose "their" life, because in exchange, they get His! They follow the master, and do what the spirit bids them do. They love the light and want all of its fulness iin them, so that it is no more them that live, but Christ who now lives in them." (Galatians 2:20)

Sp, we can see ultimately, the factors are-

1) Do we love the light or hate it? Are we willing to flee the darkness, even if it is in our own hearts?

2) Do we long to lose our life to find His in us or do we chafe at the suggestion that we need to and think this is "legalism"?


God will eventually open the eyes of any who wants the truth to reign in their hearts and breathe on their faith to believe the unbelievable, that we are new creatures and that sin has no more power over us. He will have a church without spot or wrinkle. But unless we want to be without spot or wrinkle as well, and know we cannot do that, and seek a deeper level of grace where He causes us to walk obediently (Ezekiel 36), our hearts will continue to get harder and harder and the real danger is that we can fall away by walking away. Our faith will have been choked out by the love of ourselves, and the cares of this life. May it not happen to any listening.

God is calling us to the 'good fight of faith", so that we might become 'established" in the truth and when we do, we will find that our Lord was not exaggerating when He told us that He would set us free indeed. Traise God.

I pray this helps. If there are any other questions, I will do my best to answer them. Remember always, God is looking at the state of our hearts, not our doctrines or how we appear to other men.

Blessings,

Gideon
I agree Gid… but I think the danger is first there are consequences to sin, like life and death… pain to others… as in adultery. Even our children suffer the consequences of our sin and I believe our hearts can become so cold, they die and we walk away from our salvation. Christ never leaves us but we can leave Him. He never forces Himself on us either.

God bless, andrea
 
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As I peruse some of the comments and many other comments over the whole forum, I believe that many believers don’t believe they are sealed, saved and delivered, and that worries me, because they are not certain that they are sheep and the wheat.

Those people who believe they are sheep and wheat, I would like them to sit down quietly and ask our Lord to show them all the people who have offended and hurt them over their entire life, dead or alive, and write their names down immediately. Then as you contemplate on the great list of names, and I just wonder how many people you haven’t really forgiven, and don’t love?

And after that, you could then reconcile your life of the number of times you have sinned, and you say sorry, but you didn’t go into prayer asking HIM to forgive you, and REPENT you sin. And what about the people you hurt and offended in your life time and you need forgiveness from them. Now are you squeaky clean?

No doubt those hypocrites, wayside, stony, thorny, lukewarm half-hearted Christians are sure to be a candidate of being a goat and tares. I guess false teachers of the Body of Christ do produce those candidates for processing.

Yep, our Lord explained the Parable of the Sower in depth, but the Church still ignores the six levels of heart soil and probably breeds more wayside, stony, and thorny Christians than 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold. The wayside, stony and thorny Christians will need to be very concerned when the day of separation begins.

Now after you have checked your “unforgiveness” scale out, and your “repentance” scale, then we can progress to how much do we submit and draw near to HIM. While we are sticking our chest out and claiming that we are submitted and draw near to HIM, did we ask ourself if our hands are cleansed and our heart purified. Then while we are doing that are we sure that we are resisting Satan and his forces, and being humble. (See James 4:7-10)

I picture Paul who suffered beltings, whipping, stoning, being robbed, attacked by lions and bears, bitten by a snake, shipwrecked, and everyone wanted to kill him. And I now wonder if any believer who has had such a soft ride can claim that they are definitely the sheep and the wheat. Let’s be honest, where do we really stand?

After assessing ourselves, do we really fulfil HIS Commission?

Is our “house” really “filled” and not “empty”, “cleanse and purified” and not “swept”, and “walking in submission” and “resisting Satan and his forces” and not “put in order” (See Luke 11:24-26)

I guess any disobedience of HIS Commission could be a rubber stamp for goats and tares!

Of course this is only my opinion, but look up and ask HIM!
…just love the way you describe different Christians…. makes it all so plain…

Yep, our Lord explained the Parable of the Sower in depth, but the Church still ignores the six levels of heart soil and probably breeds more wayside, stony, and thorny Christians than 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold. The wayside, stony and thorny Christians will need to be very concerned when the day of separation begins.
Blessings, andrea
 
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I agree Gid… but I think the danger is first there are consequences to sin, like life and death… pain to others… as in adultery. Even our children suffer the consequences of our sin and I believe our hearts can become so cold, they die and we walk away from our salvation. Christ never leaves us but we can leave Him. He never forces Himself on us either.

God bless, andrea

Andrea, I fully agree. It is sad to see the family unit go from leave to to Beaver and I love Lucy to Californication and Shameless in literally one generation. At this rate, if Jesus tarries, can you imagine what things wil be like in another twenty or thirty years?

Sadly, as far as the church goes, we are, overall, salt that has lost its savor. And what you said about walking away from the Lord is true. The real danger, however, is found in those who have indeed have walked away, rejecting His Lordship over them, and yet who still have a form of godliness. If a man is back in the world for whatever reason, he knows his life is a mess and that he needs a heart surgeon, But the one still in church, deceiving and being deceived? This one does not know he is in need of a physician at all. We are told that evil and the deception that comes with sin is going to increase to the point where some will not only kill other Christians,. but think they are doing God a service as they do it.

Now is the time to run, not walk but RUN into Christ with all that we have within us. No more fence sitting. No more compromise. No more unbelief. No more flirting with sin, thinking that God's grace can be used as a covering for willfully disobeying our Lord. It is time we exposed the lies, even if they are in our own lives and cry out to Him to devier us from evil, kjkust as He toaught us to pray.

How many there are who simply do not get the importance of what is being shared that willful sin MUST be rooted out of our hearts. MUST. Our very eternal souls are at stake, but our vision has been clouded with un-renewed minds continuing to hold onto this world's treasures, amd sins pleasures, while the devil robs us blind spiritually. We are literally gambling with eternity and so it is no wonder that many who say "Lord, Lord, have we not..." will end up weeping and wailing and gnashing their teeth for their loving darkness instead of running fully into the light.

Thank you for all you add to these discussions. it is so encouraging to hear God speaking to hearts of His children to run into Him, and to not look back.

Blessings,

Gideon
 
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…just love the way you describe different Christians…. makes it all so plain…

Yep, our Lord explained the Parable of the Sower in depth, but the Church still ignores the six levels of heart soil and probably breeds more wayside, stony, and thorny Christians than 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold. The wayside, stony and thorny Christians will need to be very concerned when the day of separation begins.
Blessings, andrea

Andrea, I can speak for no others, and each must examine his own heart, but I for one, even thirty eight years into trying to love the Lord with ALL of my heart, mind, soul and strength, and loving others as I love myself, was a miserable failure at such a level of love.

If we re-contemplate what we think of as "simple", I feel the overlying answer we will end up is that it is not simple at all. Even our most noble efforts will leave us still mired in Romans 7, not Romans 8. Such love is IMPOSSIBLE. And that is the first part of the great lesson most of us have missed. If we loved others as we love ourselves, the world would again look on us and cry out in amazement "Behold how they love one another!" We would closely resemble the church of the 1st century, would we not?

And what is the second part, after we learn that "Without Him, we can do nothing"? it is that "We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us"!

It takes a true miracle to be brought to this level of love, of victory, of devotion and there is but one way to receive it. It is when we fall on our knees and admit we are incapable of such love as long as our old nature still holds sway in our lives. The truth is that we need new natures, and God has them for us. In truth He has had them ready for us since the day we were first saved. This is the message God has given me to share, even though I am totally unworthy of such a task.

We ARE new. We ARE light. Sin does NOT have dominion over us but until we, by faith, agree with our God and put our flesh, our old nature off, reckoning it dead, ckaining it no more, and put on our new natures where God can love THROUGH us, we will try.... and fail... and repeat this process again and again, never learning that unbelief is at the root of our error, not lack of effort.

I pray I have not offended you.

Blessings,

Gideon
 
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Both sheep and goats are believers. Same with the chaff and the wheat.

Hi Daa,

When we look at the dividing of the sheep and goats, it happens after the tribulation, as we will all be brought before our Lord Jesus Christ and separated.

The sheep are placed on the right hand of our Lord and they are blessed by our Heavenly Father and given their inheritance because of what they did (Matt. 13:35-40). The goats are placed on HIS left hand and they are cursed with eternal hell, the same place that is “prepared for the devil and his angels” (verse 41). The reason for this is that many Christians had the opportunity to follow our Lord, but they did nothing (Matt. 13:42-45); and Messiah said: “They will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life” (Matt. 13:46). The end result is “saved” (sheep) on the right and the damned (goats) on the left.

The wheat and tares parable has much spiritual significance and truth, and we can see it now as the condition of the Body of Christ is full of true believers (sheep/wheat) and false Christians (goats/weeds), and are both found in most small and large churches, small or large. Churches do hold many unrepentant sinners and need to be pulled out and treated as unbelievers.

The sheep, goats, wheat and tares is all about sowing of the incorruptible seed by our Messiah, but false Christians/teachers sow weed seeds instead that sabotages the Good News, the Gospel of our Yeshua, our Lord. Satan plants false believers/teachers in most churches to lead many astray. Over the past two decades there have so many scandals by those who profess they are “Christians”, but their ungodly actions bring criticism and disrepute upon the Body. Our Lord is the only one who will root these false believers/teachers out, but in the process many immature, half-hearted, lukewarm believers get hurt in the process and they backslide out of the Church. Our Messiah allows them to remain where they are, and on His return they will sifted and separated.

The wheat and tares look alike in their early stages of growth, and this when the wayside, stony, and thorny Christians begin to appear, and the true believers carry on through the 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold heart soil levels.

At the end of the tribulation, all unbelievers (goats/tares) will be judged for their sin and unbelief; then, they will be removed from God’s presence, and true believers will reign with Him.
 
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…just love the way you describe different Christians…. makes it all so plain…

Yep, our Lord explained the Parable of the Sower in depth, but the Church still ignores the six levels of heart soil and probably breeds more wayside, stony, and thorny Christians than 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold. The wayside, stony and thorny Christians will need to be very concerned when the day of separation begins.
Blessings, andrea

Thanks Andrea, as it's the only way I know how to describe the Body of Christ, because all of the false teaching has destroyed the incorruptible seed of the lesson on the Parable of the Sower. This is exactly the way I feel about the six levels I see in most churches.

A Wayside Christian could be a person who has a shut-mind and a hardened heart, and they do not understand, nor try to understand. They allow Satan and his forces to steal, destroy, and kill the “Message”. We could say that they suffer from pride and gross immorality, and they don't want to change their life and most have a false salvation and an “empty, swept, and put in order house” (Luke 11:24-26), and can suffer demonisation by being controlled, oppressed and suppressed.

A Stony Christian could be a person with a shallow mind, who shows enthusiasm until they run into difficulties, who opposes most things, who suffers persecution, and/or who requires personal discipline. They seem to receive the “Message”, want leadership, etc, but they have not sat down to count the cost. The “seed” is not rooted in them and they could be oppressed and suppressed by “unclean spirits”.

Thorny Christian could be a person who is a “hearer of the Message”, with a surcharged heart, who seems to receive the “seed”, who is far too busy to pray, who has no time to read the Bible, and who sits in the church, and whose mind wanders everywhere, and/or who is full of worldly thoughts. They love to be involved in committees, and doing good deeds, but they have no spare time, spare emotion, spare energy, nor spare thought of our Lord Jesus Christ, the living word. They are not Christ-centred.

The true Christian (believers) come in three flavours:

(1) 30-fold Christian is saved, but half-hearted.

(2) 60-fold Christian bears fruit, but without complete obedience and discipline.

(3) 100-fold Christian is completely obedient, dedicated, and surrendered to our Lord Jesus Christ.

Blessings.
 
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Gideon, our most important commissions are: to forgive one another, to love on another, and to repent.

I've always believed that just because someone doesn't love me the way that I want them to, it doesn't mean they don't love me with all they have.

Mate, it can be easy to forgive another person, but we struggle learning how to forgive ourself. And we look at the same thing as other people and see it totally different to each other.

You have a good heart Gideon.

Blessings.
 
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