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Making Vows

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Greetings,[/font]

I have a question regarding making oaths/vows to God--[/font]

I know that Scripture says that any vow you make to God you must keep.[/font]
But can I back down from an oath that I made to Him? Would God keep me bound to it even if I wanted to cancel it?[/font]


I have this fear that I made vows to God that if I do this or this happens, then God can remove my salvation.[/font]

I feel that once the vow is made that I can't cancel it. It feels that there’s no way out. I tell God that I didn't mean it. I tell Him to cancel it. But I feel that He would only reply by saying, "You're the one who made it. So you're the one who damned yourself, not Me."[/font]

Even posting this very message makes me fear that I made a vow of damnation.[/font]

I know Jesus urged that you should never make vows. But nearly all the time, I just can't help it. They just come by themselves. I feel doomed. I mean, sometimes I can’t even do the simplest things anymore.[/font]

Hermit[/font]
 

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I just want you to know you are okay. I know this probably sounds contradicting from me if you have read my posts. I cannot relate to you because I don't have your OCD but when I read your struggles with OCD I wish I had yours instead of my OCD. The reason I say this is because yours has no chance of dooming you. I am not saying this to trivialize your issues. I am just saying God is not going to punish you for this. Your brain is just wired funny. You still believe in God that is all it takes to get into heaven. He knows your heart.
 
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Well, thanks for the replies.

But just today, I had a problem with a vow (in a sense at least).

Basically, what happened is this--I had an OCD moment about a task that I had to eventually do for work. In order to avoid it, I made a "vow" (sorta) that I won't bring up this task in a meeting I had later that day, unless someone else brought it up to me. If I broke that vow it was implied that God would damn me to hell.

Well, the meeting came and when I asked that if I had anything else to add, I passed it along. But then, one of my co-worker brought up something to me and it sounded like he was referring to the task. I then made the assumption that it was and talked about that task.

But later on, a few minutes after the meeting, he then told me that, that wasn't what he was talking about.

I feel afraid that I just damned myself to hell. I told God that I didn't mean that vow and that I recant it. I know that technically I didn't really "violate" per se, but the feeling of fear is real.

I don't want to lose my salvation. I told God that. I asked God to relinguish me from this vow.

But I'm still fearful.
 
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Don't you think that these worries sound a little silly? I mean it sound like this is completely occupying your day to day thinking, right? That's highly indicative that what you're suffering from is OCD. No matter how much we tell you that everything's okay, you're OCD is just going to come up with a new reason that you should worry that you've been damned to hell for some kind of pseudo-vow.

Speaking of those vows, I suspect that you're over-analyzing your thoughts, and that those "vows" you think you're making are really just small random thoughts or feelings. They might feel very very real, but your mind's just playing some major tricks on you. The reason that I think this is because many of my OCD symptoms have been like this. I freak out that I thought this or that, but now that I've gotten a lot better, I see that I was just so tense that I misinterpreted many normal random thoughts as something horribly sinful.
 
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Many times we make vows and do not keep them. This is not a good habit but please do not fear for your salvation. Let your Yes be yes and No no. Ask for forgiveness you are ok. Learn to be secure in your salvation by developing a deeper relationship with Christ he is all loving and nothing we do can keep us from him as long as we keep on getting back up and do our best to serve him in grace. God Bless.
 
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Romans 8:37-39

In all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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Vows do not just happen, one must give thought and then MAKE (take action) the vow. We are taught to simply by just saying "yes" or "no". Say what you mean, mean what you say but don't say it mean. Keep it simple and you can let go of your worries. Do not execute the vow..I can think of making a vow, & change my mind and no vow is made. But if I execute it a debt is owed. We are also warned of the perils of debt. Do not enter into debt without much forethought. Ask God for your needs and His guidance and let Him direct your path.
 
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Vows do not just happen, one must give thought and then MAKE (take action) the vow.

We are also warned of the perils of debt. Do not enter into debt without much forethought. Ask God for your needs and His guidance and let Him direct your path.

I know I have making vows ocd and I constantly have to remind myself that a vow is only true if I actually think it out and mean it. This has helped.

The problem for me is that I sometimes make vows on purpose to counteract vows I make in my head. For example, if I vowed in my head to not walk on the sidewalk, I will say outloud "I vow that I WILL walk on the sidewalk. This is because I sometimes don't realize that the vow in my head is not real.

I also have vowed in my head by saying "yes" and then realized that is not what I wanted at all.
 
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Reading this, I feel like I know that it is just your OCD and that God will not take away your salvation. It isn't by anythign you did but He bought you. He will not give you back. You obviously want to follow Him.
I also have a problem with worryign about vows. If you read my former posts you will see some of what I'm worrying about, but for me, I worry about making a vow to divorce my husband. For example this morning I might have said that I promised I wouldn't divorce him as long as I ate at a certain place with my coupons today, so that I could eat out and not worry about it, and then I didn't. So now I worry that I'm held to that, even though God hates divorce.
 
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