Locust of the bottomless pit!

These were not ordinary locusts such as those that eat vegetation. These are commanded to hurt men, men who do NOT “Have the seal of God in their foreheads (meaning the 144,000.)” This gives further evidence that the church has been removed from the earth.

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This is not evidence of a "cosmic vacuum cleaner" rapture. There is a rapture, but it is merely being gathered in the wilderness after the fall of Babylon.

The "cosmic vacuum cleaner" rapture is part of Satan's "alien" propaganda (fake UFO's will "vacuum people up"). If you are familiar with Star Trek, the "locusts with women's hair" are "Vulcans", if you are familiar with Lord of the Rings, the "locusts with women's hair" are "Elves". These are equivalent to "vampires" also, the "armies with lion's teeth" = vampire teeth. All these stories are to mentally prime you to believe in these "supernatural" beings in order to deceive people into worshipping the "antichrist". Whether the "antichrist" is a "friend" or "foe" to these fictional entities remains to be seen.

Again, propaganda-wise, "Elves" = "vampires" = "Vulcans" = "alien demon locusts" from a "black hole"/ "time rift"/ "magical dimension" abyss.

Back to your point about the locusts not hurting Christians.

Let's look at one the places where we can find Locusts: Isaiah 3

For, behold, the Lord, the Lord of hosts, doth take away from Jerusalem and from Judah the stay and the staff, the whole stay of bread, and the whole stay of water. 2 The mighty man, and the man of war, the judge, and the prophet, and the prudent, and the ancient,
3 The captain of fifty, and the honourable man, and the counsellor, and the cunning artificer, and the eloquent orator.
4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.
5 And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable.
6 When a man shall take hold of his brother of the house of his father, saying, Thou hast clothing, be thou our ruler, and let this ruin be under thy hand:
7 In that day shall he swear, saying, I will not be an healer; for in my house is neither bread nor clothing: make me not a ruler of the people.
8 For Jerusalem is ruined, and Judah is fallen: because their tongue and their doings are against the Lord, to provoke the eyes of his glory.
9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.
10 Say ye to the righteous, that it shall be well with him: for they shall eat the fruit of their doings.
11 Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him.
12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
13 The Lord standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.
14 The Lord will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses.
15 What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord God of hosts.
16 Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:
17 Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts.
18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,
19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,
20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,
21 The rings, and nose jewels,
22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,
23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails.
24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.
25 Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.
26 And her gates shall lament and mourn; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.

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Why are they in woe? Babylon has fallen, and thus, the wicked cannot exploit the poor anymore. Good people have no need of Babylon to give them things - in fact, Babylon actively prevents people from people surviving on their own. (Babylon gives the wealthy ownership of the land.)

We know that since Daniel 8's 2300 days consists of 150 + 396 days (1 year, 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour of Trumpet 6) + 1260 + 3.5 + 490/ 70 weeks, the locusts are the Ram (= Medes, Persians/ Russia, Iran) when they attack and become great. These locusts also occur in Trumpet 6 (within the 396 days, presumably the 5 months before the start of the 1260 days of the Leopard king/ new Antiochus.)

From Amos 7, we also know that the 2300 days should start in the autumn :

Thus hath the Lord God shewed unto me; and, behold, he formed grasshoppers in the beginning of the shooting up of the latter growth; and, lo, it was the latter growth after the king's mowings. 2 And it came to pass, that when they had made an end of eating the grass of the land, then I said, O Lord God, forgive, I beseech thee: by whom shall Jacob arise? for he is small.

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and from Joel 1, we know that the locusts of Trumpet 5 or 6, or Bowl 5, 6 cuts off the daily sacrifices.

6 For a nation is come up upon my land, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth of a great lion.
7 He hath laid my vine waste, and barked my fig tree: he hath made it clean bare, and cast it away; the branches thereof are made white.
8 Lament like a virgin girded with sackcloth for the husband of her youth.
9 The meat offering and the drink offering is cut off from the house of the Lord; the priests, the Lord's ministers, mourn.
10 The field is wasted, the land mourneth; for the corn is wasted: the new wine is dried up, the oil languisheth.
11 Be ye ashamed, O ye husbandmen; howl, O ye vinedressers, for the wheat and for the barley; because the harvest of the field is perished.
12 The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men.
13 Gird yourselves, and lament, ye priests: howl, ye ministers of the altar: come, lie all night in sackcloth, ye ministers of my God: for the meat offering and the drink offering is withholden from the house of your God.
14 Sanctify ye a fast, call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the Lord your God, and cry unto the Lord,
15 Alas for the day! for the day of the Lord is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.

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It hadn't occurred to me when I wrote it, but if you think about Vulcans and Star Trek, the "cosmic vacuum cleaner rapture" is nothing more than the "teleporter", "beaming people up, Scottie". Is the "enterprise" heaven? I don't think so.

But, the forward part of the ship is... a "UFO."

In lord of the rings, "orcs" are the "bad version" of "elves". I assume these "orcs" to be equivalent to "Neanderthals" in modern ahem "science". Since Esau was a "hairy man", Satanists have corrupted this into a pseudo scientific framework: Jacob, the 2nd in the "lineage", is the usurper to the hairy man (in Satanic propaganda terms: Bigfoot= "Neanderthals" "mad" at "Jacob/ Israel" for taking over the Earth when in reality, "they were formed by God first".) So, "orcs" represent Esau, the progenitor of "Muslims". I don't believe this, I am just extrapolating Satanic BS into some sort of framework that they will probably use.)

PhillipLaSpino said:

There are those Christian’s who talk too little, in this, they prevent their usefulness! But than there are those who talk too much and in so doing spoil their influence!


Rev.9:1 speaks of a star (Satan) falling from heaven unto the earth who was given the key of the bottomless pit. The Greek word for “key” here is a symbol for power and authority. With this authority given this falling star (Satan) shall release demon spirits from the bottomless pit. There shall arise from the pit, “smoke as a great furnace,” indicating that fire is present in the pit, and out of the smoke came locusts upon the earth and they had power as scorpions.
Power meaning strength, force and efficiency.

Prov.30:27, Solomon wrote speaking of literal locusts, “The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands.” Yet in Revelation we read,

Rev.9:11, “And they (the Locusts of the bottomless pit) had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.”

Apollyon in Greek translates, “The destroyer.”

What is meant by the bottomless pit? ...

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Those are evil spirits/satans, out of the bottomless pit -the Abyss. Abaddon is their king.

The bottomless pit is the abyss, the Lake of Fire, the dark dominion of Satan and his evil angels =the hordes of created evil spirits.

Enoch saw it, and told of it, in chapter 18:
The Book of Enoch, Translated by Robert H. Charles, 1912
10And beyond these mountains Is a region the end of the great earth: there the heavens were completed. 11And I saw a deep abyss, with columns of heavenly fire, and among them I saw columns of fire fall, which were beyond measure alike towards the height and towards the depth. 12And beyond that abyss I saw a place which had no firmament of the heaven above, and no firmly founded earth beneath it: there was no water upon it, and no birds, but it was a waste and horrible place. 13I saw there seven stars like great burning mountains, and to me, when I inquired regarding them, The angel said: 14"This place is the end of heaven and earth: this has become a prison for the stars and the host of heaven. 15And the stars which roll over the fire are they which have transgressed the commandment of the Lord in the beginning of their rising, because they did not come forth at their appointed times. 16And He was wroth with them, and bound them till the time when their guilt should be consummated even for ten thousand years."

19 And Uriel said to me: "Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods, here shall they stand, till the day of the great judgement in which they shall be judged till they are made an end of. 2And the women also of the angels who went astray shall become sirens."
3And I, Enoch, alone saw the vision, the ends of all things: and no man shall see as I have seen.

PhillipLaSpino said in post 1:

These were not ordinary locusts such as those that eat vegetation.

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The weird locust-like beings in Revelation 9:7-10, like the subsequent army of 200 million weird horse-like beings in Revelation 9:16-19, certainly won't be ordinary locusts and horses, because of their descriptions, but they could still eat vegetation. While they could both be seen by the world as "aliens" or "demons", in fact they could both be animals which evolved (at different times) on this planet millions of years ago. The weird locust-like beings are currently living, or are in some state of extended hibernation, in the bottomless pit (Revelation 9:2-3,11), which may have a physical manifestation as a deep underground cavern. The top of this cavern could be deep under the city of Abadan (in Iran), just as the bottomless pit is under the angel Abaddon (Revelation 9:11). The weird locust-like beings will swarm up from the bottomless pit to torment mankind with excruciating stings for 5 months (Revelation 9:2-10). They won't kill anyone, but they will make those they sting want to die, the pain will be so bad (Revelation 9:5-6).

Because the weird horse-like beings will have to come from somewhere, and it could be difficult to keep 200 million of them hidden on the earth, they could currently be living, or be in some state of extended hibernation, in hidden underground bases somewhere away from this planet, such as on the far side of this planet's moon, and/or on the next planet out from the sun (they could even be a source of the mysterious methane emissions which have been detected in places emanating from beneath the 4th planet's surface).

The 200 million literal, weird horse-like beings of the 6th trumpet (Revelation 9:16-19) haven't come upon the earth yet (as is sometimes claimed), for 1/3 of mankind hasn't been killed by them yet (Revelation 9:18). And the locusts have to come upon the earth before the horses.

PhillipLaSpino said in post 1:

These were not ordinary locusts such as those that eat vegetation. These are commanded to hurt men, men who do NOT “Have the seal of God in their foreheads (meaning the 144,000.)” This gives further evidence that the church has been removed from the earth.

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Actually, there is no evidence, anywhere in scripture, that the church has been removed from the earth, whether before or at any point during the the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24.

All obedient people in the church will be spiritually protected during the future tribulation, no matter what happens to them physically (Romans 8:35-37). The 144,000 male-virgins part of the church (Revelation 14:4), along with some others, will be physically protected so that they will survive the tribulation's first stage (Revelation 6), while others will die and their souls will enter heaven (Revelation 7:9,14). Near the end of this first stage, the 144,000 will be sealed (Revelation 7:3-4) for physical protection before the unsealing of the 7th seal (Revelation 8:1), out of which will come the tribulation's 7 trumpets (Revelation 8:1-2). The first 6 trumpets' events, up to Revelation 9:19, will be the tribulation's 2nd stage. The seal which the 144,000 will receive (which will be different from and in addition to the seal of the Holy Spirit himself which they and all others in the church receive: Ephesians 1:13) will physically protect them during this 2nd stage (Revelation 9:4).

After the 2nd stage is over, the 144,000 male-virgins part of the church will be caught up in their mortal bodies as the "man child" to God's throne in heaven (Revelation 12:5, Revelation 14:4-5, Textus Receptus), like how Enoch and Elijah were caught up in their mortal bodies to heaven (Hebrews 11:5; 2 Kings 2:1). Right after the 144,000 are caught up, the tribulation's 3rd stage, the literal 3.5-year worldwide reign of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) will begin (Revelation 12:5-6). This time period is shown from 4 different angles in Revelation chapters 11 to 14 (Revelation 11:2b-3, Revelation 12:6,14, Revelation 13:5-18, Revelation 14:9-13).

The 144,000 will remain in heaven before God's throne (Revelation 14:5, Textus Receptus) during the time of the Antichrist's reign (Revelation 14:9-13, Revelation 13:5-18), while two other parts of the church will still be on the earth: the figurative "woman" who represents those in the church who will flee into prepared wilderness places and be physically protected (Revelation 12:6,14), and the remnant of her seed (Revelation 12:17), those in the church who will remain in the cities and not be physically protected, but will be persecuted in every nation, imprisoned, and beheaded by the Antichrist (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Matthew 24:9-13).

After the Antichrist's reign is declared legally over at the sounding of the 7th trumpet (Revelation 11:15), the 7 plagues of the 7 vials of God's wrath will come out of the 7th trumpet's heavenly-temple opening (Revelation 11:19, Revelation 15:5 to 16:1). These vials will be the tribulation's 4th and final stage (Revelation 16). Because the church isn't appointed to God's wrath (1 Thessalonians 5:9), none of these vials will be directed at those in the church who will still be alive on the earth at that time, still waiting for Jesus' coming as a thief (Revelation 16:15). Instead, they will go into protective chambers which they will have built for themselves on the earth (Isaiah 26:20), just as Noah and his family went into the protective ark which they had built for themselves on the earth (Genesis 7:7). So some in the church will survive the entire future tribulation on the earth. They are those who will still be "alive and remain" at Jesus' 2nd coming to be raptured (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17) immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8). These survivors will have experienced God's miraculous physical protection (Psalms 91) without having to have been part of the 144,000.

PhillipLaSpino

These were not ordinary locusts such as those that eat vegetation. These are commanded to hurt men, men who do NOT “Have the seal of God in their foreheads (meaning the 144,000.)” This gives further evidence that the church has been removed from the earth.

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This should tell you just the opposite,because only those with the seal of God,can belong to Him,and they are still here....

In Revelation chapter 9 we see there is a swarm of locusts loosed by the fallen star from heaven. I believe this fallen star is a sign for Lucifer, and the children of hell were given to him By the Lord as a host. Because we see in Revelation 1:18 it is the Lord who is the only one who has control over these keys of hell. Notice in verse 2 when the bottomless pit is opened the air and the sun became darkened be reason of the smoke. (the beast also came out of the bottomless pit Rev. 11:7 and 17:8)

This sign of darkness on earth was also given to us when Jesus was on the cross, when the sun was darkened from the 6th hour to the 9th hour. This is the sign of the third part being darkened, showing how this third part would blinded from the truth, and lack understanding the scriptures by reason of this darkness. Just as Paul said; that blindness would come upon Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles was complete; just as Paul being blinded was also a sign of this very thing himself.

In verse 3 we see these locusts were given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. In Deuteronomy 8:15 we see when the children of Israel were led through the wilderness they encountered fiery serpents, and scorpions, and drought. Also in Ezekiel 2:6 the Lord told Ezekiel not to be afraid of the words of the people, and he compared them to briers and thorns, and scorpions.

These signs of the serpents and scorpions was given to show the deadly poison that was contained in the mouths and tails of these false prophets, and evil leaders of the people. In Matthew 23:33 Jesus called those false teachers of the day, serpents, and generation of vipers showing this very same thing.

But in Luke 10:19 Jesus empowered his disciples by saying; " I give you power to tread upon serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy. In this we see the Lords disciples will not be harmed by their deadly poison (false doctrine) Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

And we see this truth in Revelation 9:4 when only those who have not the Seal of God in their foreheads would be hurt. This seal of God is the anointing of the Holy Spirit, and the indwelling of Gods living Word written in their hearts and mind. We are shown this sealing up in Ezekiel 9:4 with the mark set upon the foreheads of the Lords saints before the other angels went out to slay the people who had not this mark.

Back in Revelation 9:5 we see these locusts were to devour the minds of men for 5 months, which is a sign of time given in the days of Noah when the flood waters covered the earth, just as a flood of false doctrine would come out of the mouth of the dragon after the woman in Revelation 12:16.

This sign of time is also shown as 5 months x 30 days= 150; which can also be shown as 50+50+50= 150; like the 3 groups of 50 that came with their captains to bring Elijah down from the mount, and were consumed by fire. But also in Judges 15:4 we see this sign when Samson would take 300 foxes and join them together 2 by 2 at the tail and light a fire brand between the 2 tails in order to set the crops of the uncircumcised on fire; this is 300 divided by 2= 150. (sign of time 5 months)

This consumption by fire was pronounced by Jesus when he said in Luke 12:49; " I am come to send a fire on earth; and what will I if it already be kindled?" This cleansing by fire was shown in Numbers 31:23 as a way to cleanse the spoils of war. This fire the Lord was talking about is shown in James 3:5 with the tongue of man, that boasts of great things, and can kindle a great fire. So again we see it is this false doctrine that would consume and destroy, even the minds of men.

Back in Revelation 9:7 we see the shapes of these locusts were like horses. In Psalm 32:9 we see the sign of this in the horse, and mule which has no understanding. We also see in Revelation 9:7 that these locusts had on their heads crowns like gold. This is seen in Nahum 3:17 where it is written; " Thy crowned are as locusts, and thy captains as great grasshoppers." This shows how these false teachers shall rule like royalty during this time period, even like princes. (princes shown as heads)

In Revelation 9:8 we see they had the hair of women, which does not show gender, but rather a lack of understanding in scripture. In Ecclesiastes 7:28 we see the preacher sought for those who had understanding; which he only found 1 among a thousand men, but among women he found none.

This has to do with the generation periods not gender; remember first came man, and then out of man came woman. In this case the woman refers to the Gentile period, and how they would not understand the scriptures by reason of this dark period of time, and by reason of famine (not hearing the word of God). Just as Jesus declared before he ascended, the darkness was coming and no man would be able to work.

In Revelation 9:9 we see these locusts had breastplates of iron, which shows their hardness of heart. And we also see in verse 10 that their sting was in their tales, like the scorpions. This mystery is shown in Isaiah 9:15 when the Lord said;" The ancient and honorable, he is the head; and the prophet that speaks lies, he is the tail.

This sign of deceiving by the tail (false prophet) was shown to us in the little horn, and the tail of the great red dragon who drew away a third part of the stars. So in all these things we see, and understand what the meaning is of these swarms of locusts mean, and to what purpose they served.

Just as we see in Revelation 9:11 that their king over them is the destroyer himself.

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n2thelight,

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PhillipLaSpino said:

Phil wrote, "This gives further evidence that the church has been removed from the earth."

You replied, "This should tell you just the opposite,because only those with the seal of God,can belong to Him,and they are still here...."

Phil replied, "It's obvious the 144,000 are of the 12 tribes of Israel; meaning they are Jews' by blood! So are you saying that God does not have the authority to leave these 144,000 people behind in order to finish his work of Judgment upon the Jews' and the Gentile nations? If not, why not?

I have always been under the assumption that God rules and will do as he pleases. There is also this possibility; these 144,000 Jews are those who were resurrected just after Christ was raised, Matt.27:52-53. If this is true, they would be O.T. saints, those saved because of their faith and in God's promises; and surely not part of the Christian church. Why, because the Holy Spirit had not yet been sent!

Now don't just shake your head NO! You need to examine Matt.27:52-53 carefully, and especially the following.

Heb.9:27, “It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.” These in Matt. were the first-fruits unto Jesus Christ and the Father. Jesus was the first-fruit unto the Father alone! Rev.14:4, the 144,000 are said to be "the first fruits unto God and to the Lamb."

Also the word "MANY" used in Matt.27 is compared to the grass in the field, leaves on a tree, etc. The Greek tells us it’s a great multitude that went into Jerusalem and were witnesses by many, They being the first-fruit of the resurrection, and Jesus being the "first-born" meaning he who leads the way, and every man in his own order follows that leader.

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First thing,only two of the 12 tribes are Jew's,second thing if He were judging them they would not have the seal,meaning His truth in their hearts,which the seal of God is.....

Israel is the Church,many err in seperating the two.....Not an assumption,God does do what He pleases never said He didn't....

When Christ came out of the tomb, He had defeated death. But while He was in the tomb, as it is written in I Peter 3:18-20; "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the Just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: [18] "By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison," [19] "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." [20]

After death, while Christ was in the prison of the tomb, He preached to all those that did not have the availability of salvation all the way back to the time of Noah, which is a figure of speech, which means to even Adam. That when that veil was rent, that salvation was offered to Israel and the Gentile, all the way back to the beginning of the flesh age. God is good and God is fair.

At the end of this flesh age, at the close of the tribulation by the Antichrist, we shall all be changed into our new spiritual bodies, and then starts one thousand years of the Millennium age, which is the kingdom of Jesus Christ, as recorded in Ezekiel chapters 39-48. It is a time of learning and discipline. At the end of that age, will be the great white throne judgment, when Satan and all his followers will be turned to ashes.

Now,back to the seal of God

Revelation 7:2-3 ...'And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.' ... So, the servants of God receive a 'seal' in their foreheads.

Revelation 13:16-17 ...'And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.' ... And those who follow the beast, receive a 'mark' of the beast.
So we know from prophecy that there will be two groups of people during the Bible end times. One group serve God and receive the Seal in their foreheads, and the other group follow the beast and receive the Mark of the Beast. Do we want God's seal or the beast's mark?

Again as I said,you can't have the seal of God,and not belong to Him....

Revelation 7:2 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east [sun rising], having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea."

The angel from the east is the angel from God. You have heard of the Seal, or the "Mark of the Beast"; well, this angel is bringing the seal, or "mark of God." This seal from the angel is "Knowledge". It is sealed, or stored in your mind, which is in your forehead. No physical part of this earth, or oceans will be hurt.

The subject here is the sealing of God's elect; placing knowledge of everything that is to happen in the minds of God's elect and all those overcomers, so there will be no mystery in these events to them. When we know exactly what is to take place, Satan will not be inviting; for upon his arrival, we will know him for the cheap imitation he is, in relation to our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 7:3 "Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

This is what the angel from the east [God] said to the spirits of the four winds. The purpose here is to save the earth, the trees and vegetation, also the water and everything else, until God's elect are sealed. Until God's elect, each and every one of them completely understand the events that will take place before the seventh trumpet sounds, and Our Lord Jesus Christ returns.

That seal is knowledge in the minds of the elect, placed their by the seeds of God's Word. God's Word must placed there through your studying and learning what the Holy Spirit of God reveals to you. It's time for God's elect to stop chasing shadows, and study to know God's plan for the elect, and also what He has in store for the devil [Antichrist] and his world system. We are to be a part of God's plan, but not Satan's system.

This is one of the most difficult chapters in the entire book to interpret. After much thought I have concluded that the locusts of Revelation 9 are simply literal locusts from the bottomless pit, rather than something symbolic.

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This is one of the most difficult chapters in the entire book to interpret. After much thought I have concluded that the locusts of Revelation 9 are simply literal locusts from the bottomless pit, rather than something symbolic.

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The locust are simply the fallen angels...What you need to ask youself is why did He use locust to describe,said angels.....

Revelation 9:1 "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit [pit of the abyss]."

The "star" that falls to the earth is the star of Isaiah 14. The star is "Lucifer", who will be the Antichrist once he arrives on earth. Satan is given the key, or authority to the bottomless pit, for this is where Satan's fallen angels are held.
Satan is to be God's executioner of God's divine wrath that is to be poured out upon the earth. God is going to give Satan the right to have his way with all who are blind to God's Word.

Remember, God removed the wall of protection around Job; for Satan. The only stipulation God gave Satan was that he was not allowed to take Job's life. Job had the will; Satan did the testing, and God allowed it. This is an example of what is to happen in these end times; and that is why we must be ready, and with our spiritual armor on.
Right now, today, Satan is not in that bottomless pit, but in heaven. He is the accuser of the saints before the throne of God. The fallen angels are in the pit, or the abyss. The pit is not a place, or location, but a point of degradation. It's a similar statement to Satan being told he would always crawl on his belly, as the serpent. No Satan never became a snake, but he was a deceiver and his actions were as that of a snake.

Revelation 9:2 "And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit."

This is the pit that holds every evil spirit that is on the earth and in God's confinement. This smoke comes from the pit, and it darkens, not eliminates the sun and air. When Jesus Christ returns the sun, moon and stars are eliminated. This darkening is talked about in Revelation 8:12, where one third of visibility is gone, at the sounding of the fourth trumpet.

This smoke is setting up the people of the earth for the supernatural things about to happen. Just like in Job's case, God will set limits how far Satan can go. What is important to us, as Christians; is that we be able to identify Satan, and his works, by what ever roll he plays, or name he choses for himself.

Revelation 9:3 "And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power."

This locust army that comes upon the earth is Satan's army of demonic forces. They are the fallen angels, and demons, both coming with Satan, and those that are already here upon the earth.

The "power" in the Greek, is "exousia"; it means "authority", or delegated power by God to them. It is the right to carry out the wrath of God, in His [God's] behalf. When they strike, or exert their power on the deceived, it is a spiritual power, as we see in Ephesians 6:10-20. This is because we are in a spiritual battle against Satan and His forces.

If you are looking for bombs to fall, fire from heaven, or as such, you will be misled. In a spiritual sense, their striking will be deadly; spiritual deadly, for they will exert their authority in the same manner as a scorpion renders it's prey harmless and defenseless. We will discuss this later.

Revelation 9:4 "And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads."

God will not allow any physical damage to any part of the earth. Not the grass, trees, or any physical matter you can think of. This is a spiritual warfare, and it is a battle for the minds of men and the commitment of their souls to him. God is very specific as to what they can do. Their targets are only the people; The "Anthropos" in the Greek, the individuals of man, not any animal, and only those "that have not the seal of God in their foreheads".

What is in your forehead? It's your brain, of course. As we saw in earlier chapters, the "seal of God", is "knowledge" that is contained in His Word, the Scriptures. God want all of His children to know what He intends to do, and it is because of this that John was brought to the "Day of the Lord" by Jesus, and told to write it down. God has also given us many prophets, and the writings of His Apostles in the New Testament. There is nothing that is going to happen that God has not told us in His plan [the Bible].
Remember in the seventh chapter, the angel said stop, don't let this come to pass until we have sealed the 144,000 in their foreheads. Well, this locust army troops of demons can't start their spiritual destruction until the last of the elect, or chosen of God, and the 144,000 children of God are sealed in their minds. In this fourth verse, they are on the earth, which means you had better be sealed with the knowledge by the time of this prophecy. This knowledge has not started to this date in time.
The limits that God puts on the fallen angels, and demonics, fully protects God's chosen. The "Chosen" are all Christians who know the truth and are ready, watching, and have their spiritual armor of Ephesians 6:10-20 on. The Chosen can observe and identify the events of the final day when those events come to pass, as they stand against the fiery darts of Satan.

In fact the first time Satan strikes out at two of God's children [the two witnesses], God's wrath boils over, and that marks the end of the Antichrist's [Satan's] rule on earth. That will be discussed in chapter eleven. How far then can Satan go with the others, the non-elect, or those not sealed in their minds?

Revelation 9:5 "And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man."

God has given us a good clue as to how long Satan will rule as Antichrist. That time is five months. The book of Joel describes in detail how this method of the locust works. The result of that torment is exactly as the torment of the scorpion that "striketh a man". So lets try to understand more of both the locust, and the scorpion.
This is that locust army of Satan that will deliver up the sons and daughters to prophecy against the Antichrist, as spoken of in Joel 2, and also by Peter in Acts 2. What these sons and daughters say will only be those words that the Holy Spirit speaks through them.

Joel said this locust army would march forward, and not miss a stride. Remember, it's not "locust" but men, and the battle which this army enters is a spiritual battle, where the victory is in their deception. Their battle cry is with words like love, joy, peace, brotherhood, equality, and a mixture of words promising peace and prosperity. In the Antichrist rule [the five months] everyone will be satisfied, as long as they continue to yield to this Antichrist.

The time "locust" has four stages, as stated in Joel 1. The part of the locust that exists in the swarming stage is five months. That five months staging period is always between May and September; so God is even giving us the season, or time frame when Antichrist will appear. And by that season, we have an hint of when the seventh trumpet will sound, and Jesus Christ will appear. However that instant is known only to the Father.

Jesus warned that "we pray that ye not be taken out of season", in Mathew 24:20, and Mark 13:18. This is to alert us that being taken out of season means we have been deceived and fallen for the wrong Christ [Antichrist]. The Antichrist will rule between Passover, and the feast of the tabernacles [trumpets].

Why then the torment as that of a scorpion? This locust army will use the same methods a scorpion uses to attack it's prey and render it's prey harmless, during this five months period. Satan and his locust army will not be in any special form, but will appear exactly as a man, as we do. Satan was in the form of a man in the Garden of Eden when he tempted Eve, and his fallen angels appeared as men in Genesis 6:1-8, when they married the daughters of men and had "children" [Nephelim] by them.

The scorpion has a tail with a stinger in the tail. When they strike their prey, he sneaks up to it's prey and infects it's poison into the victim. Near it's mouth, it has a set of pinchers where it latches on to it's victim and pulls it to it's mouth. This is important, because the scorpion has no stomach, so it cannot digest it's own food within itself. Therefore the scorpion stings with the poison of it's tail to paralyze the victim, and then it vomits it's digestive juices [acids] into the body of the victim, then the victim's skin and body actually become the scorpion's stomach.
The acids turn everything it touches into mush. Then the scorpion inhales the mush from the victim's body and is gone. The victim is left defenseless from the beginning of the scorpion's strike, because the poison from the tail rendered the circulatory system and nervous system totally paralyzed, while the digestive acids turned the body to mush. Once stung by a scorpion, instantly you have no defense. You can't fight, run, or even think. You lay helpless to the devouring process of the scorpion.

Now that we see how the scorpion attacks, and the methods used by them; let's apply their methods, to Satan and that of this locust army. Satan and his army of fallen angels will take the lies [traditions] within your religion, and the false teaching that you believe to be true; and use it against you. All religions, Christian and otherwise, will be approached on the level and beliefs of their own understanding. They will use the doctrines of their choosing, and through that, the spiritual darts of lies and deception will come.

Like the scorpion uses your body for it's battle, and attack, so the angels of the locust army [not human] will use your mind as it's battleground. That is why you must be sealed in your mind [see verse 4] and with the proper armor on, which again is in Ephesians 6:10-20. Your battle is a spiritual one with the king of all demons, Satan, and he is ready for you.

The Antichrist has the authority from God, and the right to do business on earth, from the giver of all authority. He knows all your weaknesses, and he knows the Word as well as any theologian. Satan is set to do battle in your mind; and if your relying on false doctrine; like the rapture theory, your gone before the battle starts. If Revelation is still a mystery to you, you don't have a prayer of a chance.

You are about to go against the master of all deception, and the truth of God's word is the only thing Satan can't fight against. That is because the truth written in God's Word sets the limits God placed upon him as the Antichrist.

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Locusts are *almost* always symbolic of armies in scripture. God likens large armies as locusts.

*Judges 6 & 7

*Joel is a splendid example.

*Isaiah 33

*Jeremiah 46, 51

What you have in these locusts are the armies of Rome which is heavily influenced by Satan. This is the red dragon with 7 heads and ten horns of Revelation 12.

Revelation 13 Makes it pretty clear that this is the 4th beast of Daniel 7.

I hold these locusts were the armies of Rome.

Vinesight, curious, I just checked my Strong's and there is no 5681. You may have misread it.

Wondered from Rev.13:3, "All the world wondered after the beast," as to admire and follow him to become his worshipper. compare with Rev.13:4, "And they worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast."

in2thelight wrote, "First thing,only two of the 12 tribes are Jew's,second thing if He were judging them they would not have the seal,meaning His truth in their hearts,which the seal of God is.....

Israel is the Church, many err in seperating the two.....Not an assumption, God does do what He pleases never said He didn't...."

Phil replies, "What do you mean only two of the 12 tribes are Jews?

You than said, "If He (God) was judging them they would not have the seal, meaning his truth in their hearts which the seal of God is."

Not sure what your talking about! Judging who?????? Please clarify!

Phil