Pastafarian sworn into office wearing colander on his head.

thispoorman · Jan 13, 2014

Romans 1:21-23...and spaghetti carbonara.

TLK Valentine · Jan 13, 2014

Sayre said:
He has a colander on his head.

As opposed to an instrument of torture and execution around his neck?

yasic · Jan 13, 2014

Why would anyone actually want to do that?

essentialsaltes · Jan 13, 2014

yasic said:
Why would anyone actually want to do that?

To ensure we have as much religious liberty as we think we have.

AirPo · Jan 13, 2014

TLK Valentine said:
Pastafarian politician takes oath of office wearing colander on his head - NY Daily News

FSM Bless America... Thoughts?

Tasteless at best. It's a mockery sure, but it's a mockery of the people who elected him in the first place.

TLK Valentine · Jan 13, 2014

AirPo said:
Tasteless at best. It's a mockery sure, but it's a mockery of the people who elected him in the first place.

Had he been wearing a yarmulke, nobody would've batted an eye.

Then again, according to the article, nobody did anyway. Score one for religious neutrality.

AirPo · Jan 13, 2014

TLK Valentine said:
Had he been wearing a yarmulke, nobody would've batted an eye.

Then again, according to the article, nobody did anyway. Score one for religious neutrality.

Sure, but a yarmulke doesn't call into question one's respect for the office one is being sworn into.

And we all know the FSM is political in nature.

BlunderAngel · Jan 13, 2014

Just goes to show he holds the office in contempt and mocks the religious constituents his office will serve.

He's a great example that atheism doesn't instill character.

TLK Valentine said:
Pastafarian politician takes oath of office wearing colander on his head - NY Daily News

FSM Bless America... Thoughts?

BlunderAngel · Jan 13, 2014

TLK Valentine said:
As opposed to an instrument of torture and execution around his neck?

You still don't get it. And after joining a forum dedicated to the man who's hanging on that 'instrument of torture and execution.

QueSeraSera · Jan 13, 2014

TLK Valentine said:
As opposed to an instrument of torture and execution around his neck?

If someone who was being sworn into an elected government office, was wearing one of these on the top of their head for the express purpose of mocking other religions or non religious ,I would think it was just as immature and tasteless.

keith99 · Jan 13, 2014

This is an outrage.

He is wearing a plastic colander.

He is a heretic, the true pastafarian faith requires a metal, preferably stainless steel colander.

Glass*Soul · Jan 13, 2014

Wolseley said:
Personally, I think this "Pastafarian", "Flying Spaghetti Monster" garbage is mean-spirited, adolescent childish nonsense in the extreme.

All it amounts to is a way for atheists to mock Christians and other people of faith for having that faith. Say what you will about people who have faith, at least that faith gives them some kind of a code, a moral guideline to live their lives by and govern their behavior. The best of the people of faith sincerely try to live their lives in a way that they believe is pleasing to God and hopefully in kindness and service to their fellow man.

Guys like this individual claiming that "Pastafarianism" is his religion have no religious code---they don't believe in a higher power; nothing about any of this has anything to do with worship of a deity or of service to humankind. All it amounts to is a sneering, sarcastic way of saying to religious people, "You believe in a bunch of stupid hogwash that doesn't exist, and it offends me; so I can do that, too: here, watch!"

I'd have more respect for people like this guy if they'd just drop all of the mockery and fake religion and come right out and say what they actually do believe in, whether anybody likes it or not. But no, instead we get a vaudeville show with the clown saying, "Look at me---aren't I funny and witty? Ha, ha, ha."

No, he's not funny. He's sophomoric, disrespectful, and certainly nobody that I would seriously vote for to put into any sort of public office; AFAIC, I wouldn't trust this guy with a job of shoveling up elephant dung at the zoo.

In all fairness, you are comparing "The best of the people of faith [who] sincerely try to live their lives in a way that they believe is pleasing to God and hopefully in kindness and service to their fellow man," to a single (presumably) non-theist at the moment he performed a stunt.

The last time I visited my mother's church, the pastor give his sermon inexplicably dressed as one of the wise men in a satin robe with an unraveling hem. It would not be helpful for me to now proclaim that he was at that moment utterly typical of Christianity, compare him unfavorably to Prof. Brian Cox, actress Jodie Foster, chemist Linus Pauling, physicist Leonard Susskind, and philanthropist Andrew Careinge, as if these outstanding achievers are utterly typical of atheism, and draw some conclusion based on that comparison.

TLK Valentine · Jan 13, 2014

AirPo said:
Sure, but a yarmulke doesn't call into question one's respect for the office one is being sworn into.

I don't see how a colander does, either.

Now, a clown outfit and a seltzer bottle, on the other hand, would've been disrespectful... not entirely inaccurate, but disrespectful.

And we all know the FSM is political in nature.

What public declaration of faith by a political figure isn't political in nature?

TLK Valentine · Jan 13, 2014

BlunderAngel said:
Just goes to show he holds the office in contempt and mocks the religious constituents his office will serve.

How exactly were his religious constituents being mocked?

He's a great example that atheism doesn't instill character.

Is he an Atheist? Looks like a Pastafarian to me.

BlunderAngel said:
You still don't get it. And after joining a forum dedicated to the man who's hanging on that 'instrument of torture and execution.

Then please, explain it to me. becuase from here it looks like the man was making an important statement -- with his tongue firmly in his cheek, to be sure, but important nonetheless. It may very well be that you're the one who didn't "get it."

And it should be noted that Pastafarianism also has forums dedicated to it -- I'd post examples, but promoting other religions is against the rules of this particular forum.

Nevertheless, Google is your friend.

AirPo · Jan 13, 2014

TLK Valentine said:
I don't see how a colander does, either.

Now, a clown outfit and a seltzer bottle, on the other hand, would've been disrespectful... not entirely inaccurate, but disrespectful.

Because it's a joke

What public declaration of faith by a political figure isn't political in nature?

Sure, but I was speaking of pastsfarianism(?) as a whole.

TLK Valentine · Jan 13, 2014

QueSeraSera said:
If someone who was being sworn into an elected government office, was wearing one of these on the top of their head for the express purpose of mocking other religions or non religious ,I would think it was just as immature and tasteless.

I didn't see anything in the article that mentioned his "express purpose" was to mock other religions... why do you think that was it?

TLK Valentine · Jan 13, 2014

AirPo said:
Because it's a joke

You and I can say it's a joke and treat it as one, but the United States government does not, cannot, must not ever dismiss or devalue the religious beliefs of any of its citizens on the grounds that their beliefs "are a joke."

And that's the point.

Sure, but I was speaking of pastsfarianism(?) as a whole.

So it's a religion that's heavily enmeshed in politics -- what, we've never seen this before?

AirPo · Jan 13, 2014

TLK Valentine said:
You and I can say it's a joke and treat it as one, but the United States government does not, cannot, must not ever dismiss or devalue the religious beliefs of any of its citizens on the grounds that their beliefs "are a joke."

And that's the point.

The point is not government or religion. The point is him taking his job seriously.

So it's a religion that's heavily enmeshed in politics -- what, we've never seen this before?

QueSeraSera · Jan 13, 2014

Meh...I don't even really care TBH. Not worth arguing over . He wants to make a fool out of himself no skin off my teeth .

vincenticus · Jan 13, 2014

I don't get the outrage. Pastafarianism is not a joke, nor is its purpose to mock the religious. It is satire criticizing the push to teach creationism in science classrooms. It points out that there is exactly as much scientifically verifiable evidence of a Flying Spaghetti Monster as there is a God as a Christians might envision. Why should we teach unscientific positions in the science classroom? And if we decide to do so, why choose just the Biblical one?

These are a couple of questions posed by Pastafarianism and I think they are exceedingly important. I don't know if Town Board members in New York have any power over school curriculum, but I think Schaeffer's public display shows his commitment to upholding the philosophical ideas that spawned the FSM.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. Either way, hurray religious freedom!

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