You have my utmost respect for the research on Alzheimer's disease. I watched both my grandfather and mother in law die from this horrid disease. Arigato Ursus san
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You have my utmost respect for the research on Alzheimer's disease. I watched both my grandfather and mother in law die from this horrid disease. Arigato Ursus san
どういたしまして！ Thanks for the kind words: it's an absolutely ghastly disease and I'm very sorry to hear you've experienced it personally. Here's hoping there'll be real progress towards treatment in our lifetime. : )
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おめでとうございます。 グレイディはあなたの言葉への答えを持っていません
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そうだね！笑
けれど、面白いだので、続けましょう。　；）
This thread is going off topic.
Where all the evidence for design at?
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I don't think chiral-specific catalysis does what you think it does.
maybe any scholarly articles on it?
maybe any scholarly articles on it?
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you can't even google search it:
chiral-specific catalysis
nothing comes up with that name exactly.
see here:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=chiral-specific+catalysis&btnG=&as_sdt=1,5&as_sdtp=
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I found these:
Catalytic Asymmetric Synthesis - Google Books
Chemical & Engineering News: Cover Story - CHIRAL CATALYSIS
Enantioselective synthesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Phys. Rev. Lett. 50, 1023 (1983): Chiral Symmetry Breaking in Nonequilibrium Systems
http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v1/n6/full/nchem.339.html
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just as I thought, these are chemical expertise, not a something that would happen in a primordial soup.
pharmaceutical engineering is one thing, chance chemistry is another.
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I am absolutely positive that it does. Check a textbook. If you REALLY want a scholarly article, here. First synthetic chiral catalyst, won the developer a nobel prize as up until then all our known chiral catalysts were proteins (DNAPolymerase) and couldn't stand the conditions present in industrial chemical production. The precise identity of the first chiral polymerisation catalyst is unknowable, but we don't need to identify it. The fact that a simple biomolecule can do so utterly demolishes your claim that chiral selection is impossible without complex biomolecules.
And as this has been protracted so long, I'd appreciate you admitting that I've made my point before you make your next.
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If they are full of lies they cannot be valid. Unless the evidence for design is lies. : P
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What kind of lies? A different conclusion to the same evidence?
What do you mean by "lie"?
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I mean deliberate misrepresentation of scientific understanding in order to mislead people according to a vested interest, be it political, fiscal or religious.
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Did you get that ED? they are fooling you for either your money, your vote, or your belief, or all three.
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the context this whole time was premordial soup, not a pharmaceutical lab.
does it still do what you think it would do?
Doesn't it take a lab to produce this?
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ED is right, they are valid. Your just out of ammo and have started swinging again.
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They are not valid because ID is what they (you and ED) inherently and emotionally have wanted it to be true long before doing any real science; that's just not science, dude.
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No, they are not valid because they have been shown to be dishonest hundreds of times. Once a source is found to be dishonest they are forever branded that way unless they admit their past flaws and do something to correct them. Neither have done so. You have used a source several times that used the reportable phrase "evotard". That would be as bad as if I used one that called creationists "creatards".
I am nowhere near out of ammo, you and E.D. have never posted a claim that takes more than a cap gun to shoot down.
Bring up a more difficult argument and I will give a more thorough debunking. When you use dishonest sources all it takes to debunk your claim is to point out that those sources are not valid.
Try to find some peer reviewed science articles that supports your beliefs.
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