TV makes me sick!

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25 to 30 years ago we didn't see stuff like we see now. The pushing
of homosexuality in almost every TV sitcom. I won't watch them
just for this reason.

There is an agenda, don't kid yourself. The big shots up top
want to dumb down and degrade society, and are doing a
heck of a job.

I don't hate and won't judge anyone personally. What people
do in their own homes is their business. I just don't like the
fact they are putting gays on TV where kids will see them.
And that's what they probably want. To confuse them, as
we know the adolescent years are some of the toughest
years of our lives.

I know exactly what you mean. Even the action that goes on in cartoons! The old school ones make much more since than ones now because they don't change the story every scene its hard for kids to keep up. Best to keep them off!
 
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I know exactly what you mean. Even the action that goes on in cartoons! The old school ones make much more since than ones now because they don't change the story every scene its hard for kids to keep up. Best to keep them off!

That's a good thing. Helping children develop their brains so they may adjust to real life situations is a very good thing. That's why you should let them play video games. Not obsessively but enough to develop hand eye and fast decision making skills.
 
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Everyone is going to die someday,
including you.

Of course.

What if you pass and come before God to be
judged?

What if you come before God, but it's not the Christian God? And she's very angry that you didn't worship Her? Or what if this life is really a reality simulation, and "passing" the simulation requires arriving at atheism?

I'm fine coming before any God, or gods, or goddesses, or whatever. I know that my worldview is honest, and any deity that would punish me for my integrity is an evil deity that is not worth knowing anyway.

And maybe didn't end like you thought, that you
would just cease to exist out of the physical body or
whatever you may believe in.

Maybe you just don't like the thought of ceasing to exist and prefer a comforting fantasy? That's just as reasonable a speculation.

Personally, I tend to assume that people are honest in their beliefs.


eudaimonia,

Mark
 
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25 to 30 years ago we didn't see stuff like we see now. The pushing
of homosexuality in almost every TV sitcom. I won't watch them
just for this reason.

There is an agenda, don't kid yourself. The big shots up top
want to dumb down and degrade society, and are doing a
heck of a job.

I don't hate and won't judge anyone personally. What people
do in their own homes is their business. I just don't like the
fact they are putting gays on TV where kids will see them.
And that's what they probably want. To confuse them, as
we know the adolescent years are some of the toughest
years of our lives.

The first time I ever watched tv was 1958 in Hamilton Bermuda,
it was like magic, after ten minutes I was fast asleep.
 
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Gender is also irrelevant to these cultural characteristics.

Both genders have its own roles within different cultures. Cultures sometimes ascribe different duties and talk about the relationships differenly.

How?



How is it different from heterosexuality? If homosexuality requires rigorous codification, surely you would be in favor of homosexual marriage, to provide stable, strict structures in which licentiousness cannot (in theory) happen. That is how licentiousness in heterosexuals is controlled by traditionalists, yes? No sex outside of marriage?

That is correct, basically, and you provide sort of an analysis here that I would have... But it is an analysis that now falls dead.

First: homosexuality a it exists today is a counterculture to the mainstream and traditionalist and part of its identity is essentially based on the liberation from the traditionalist and orthodox positions within sexuality.

Second: Theoretically the support of, say, a society which has homosexual marraige and codified relationships would perhaps be acceptable. None such society has ever existed... The Greeks had some ideas about acceptability of these relatinships but these were all predominantly based off of the idea of master-servant relationships; there was no horizontal sexual relationship... But suffice it to say, there was no horizontal sexual relations at all at that time..

IDK, I guess we could conclude something along the lines of:

(a) If a society was acting out of a tradition that was pro-homosexual and had a very codified and rigorous idea of how this occurs I can see that it would be an acceptable variant for the soceities within there and I could politically accept it. But as a Christian I would be a minority there...

But still, I would agree with this society. This merely doesn't exist.

(b) That is not my society and htus I am uninterested in it to some degree... I want to see the triumph of the general Western cultural & religous traditions and a molding with some of the Confucianist & Buddhist traditions.


Many Christian and Jewish denominations have no problem 'jiving' with homosexuality.

There is no issue with being friends, family, etc. with GLBT but there is an issue in condoning it or regarding it as a positive social expression, so I think.

I was thinking more about things like polygamy, slavery and killing disobedient kids or people who work on Saturday. You know, the stuff unique to certain cultures rather than the rules most successful societies agree on.

Fortunately, the New Testament seems to oppose polygamy, and the killing of people who violate odd HEbraic law is patently absurd as an adulteress is spared from a stoning.

There is this dramatic departure from old HEbraic law you should familiarize yourself with before casting these hollow criticisms.

Considering just the bolded part, it would wholly depend on when you would ask what moral ramifications interracial marriage would have. 60 years ago, you might have a different answer than you have now. And I tend to think that 60 years from now, no one will consider any moral ramifications of same-sex marriages.

It depends on the ideologies...

I guess to utilitarian humanists it is no biggie. Heh.

I can imagine that for Capitalists and plastic socialists, this will mean nothing in sixty years ... You just have to hope that these sort of flippant Capitalism and pseudo-leftism will persist with this vast levity continues...

But this is all at an end.

If you want to have a look at the future, take a look to Greece & Spain.

Dare I say... A Golden Dawn is coming for us all.

Tell that to the people who were against interracial marriage for moral reasons. In fact, some still are. Go talk to them. You'll be surprised how familiar their arguments sound.

... I am uninterested in telling it to them, and their arguments are unfamiliar. I have no idea how Christianity or Islam would be used to jusify racism...

And I have no idea how naturalist ethical philosophies are used to justify racism.

You will have to take your brush and paint me a picture.
 
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That is correct, basically, and you provide sort of an analysis here that I would have... But it is an analysis that now falls dead.

First: homosexuality a it exists today is a counterculture to the mainstream and traditionalist and part of its identity is essentially based on the liberation from the traditionalist and orthodox positions within sexuality.

I think the fact that a huge goal of the current movement is to get married, settle down, and have children exists in tension to what you're saying there. What we're seeing is a desire to participate in traditional forms for accommodating sexuality, only with the kind of partner they can be attracted to.
Second: Theoretically the support of, say, a society which has homosexual marraige and codified relationships would perhaps be acceptable. None such society has ever existed... The Greeks had some ideas about acceptability of these relatinships but these were all predominantly based off of the idea of master-servant relationships; there was no horizontal sexual relationship... But suffice it to say, there was no horizontal sexual relations at all at that time..

Not only master-servant but youth-mentor.

And yes, the position of most women in Greek society was pretty appalling.
 
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Star Trek: Nemesis does that for me.


eudaimonia,

Mark

I fell asleep during The Passion of the Christ, which led my husband to wonder about my faith. I did wake up at some point to see Satan inside a circle? got creeped out, and went back to sleep. I have to eat during a movie to stay awake a lot of times.
 
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I fell asleep during The Passion of the Christ, which led my husband to wonder about my faith.

You didn't miss a thing. It was a horrible film.

(I'm not just saying that for perceived obvious reasons, either. It was just bad)
 
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There is no issue with being friends, family, etc. with GLBT but there is an issue in condoning it or regarding it as a positive social expression, so I think.
There is no logical or rational reason for such a position. Pretty hard to claim to be friends/family with GLBT people, yet claim their existence is a negative expression and bad for humanity. Doesn't make people feel good.
 
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I know it will be impossible now for children not to know of what homosexual people are, or do. It's on the sitcoms their Mom likes.
Lord knows it's probably being pushed in their cartoons as well.
Oh, I know what you said was sarcasm. Because of them pushing
homosexuality on TV, we will likely see more adolescents, become
confused and turn to sexual immorality in the future. There is
such a thing.

Seeing as people don't turn gay, your fears are completely absurd.
 
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I fell asleep during The Passion of the Christ, which led my husband to wonder about my faith. I did wake up at some point to see Satan inside a circle? got creeped out, and went back to sleep. I have to eat during a movie to stay awake a lot of times.

Haha, O,boy.
 
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I tried hard to stay away from this topic but you left that quote open so wide I have to respond and likely my response will sicken non-christians so apologies in advance.

Its degrading because the next step is to allow people to marry animals and mate with them. Then that will be on tv too. Then maybe next marrying corpses...etc. Its a never ending thing now of "I want to marry this....".

I made a comment, but I erased it. I am staying away from this topic.
 
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You didn't miss a thing. It was a horrible film.

(I'm not just saying that for perceived obvious reasons, either. It was just bad)

Well, I wouldn't know, but the Satan thing was creepy.

I did manage to stay awake for The Last Temptation of Christ; I wonder what that means.
 
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I know it will be impossible now for children not to know of what homosexual people are, or do. It's on the sitcoms their Mom likes.
Lord knows it's probably being pushed in their cartoons as well.
Oh, I know what you said was sarcasm. Because of them pushing
homosexuality on TV, we will likely see more adolescents, become
confused and turn to sexual immorality in the future. There is
such a thing.

You can't choose to change your sexual orientation, at most you can just suppress it.
 
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I've always been of the opinion that if you don't want your children to see/do something, it's your responsibility as parents to handle it. The TV shouldn't be babysitting your child.

We don't even have a television in our house. Sounds crazy, right? Do a little research on what happens to your brainwave when you watch tv compared to brainwaves when you are reading. Or what happens to lab mice when exposed to hours of television. You might reconsider your favorite pastime.

With that being said, what difference does it make if homosexuals are on television? If you are concerned with them being a bad example, take a moment to watch a Lady Gaga video and then worry about examples.
 
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