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most of them will self identify as "society of saint pious the 10th chapel"

as to "what it is" it is a break away group, in some state of schism from the Church

they keep the old Latin Mass, so you would not be able to tell their services apart from any Latin Mass

prayers for reunification :crossrc:
 
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most of them will self identify as "society of saint pious the 10th chapel"

as to "what it is" it is a break away group, in some state of schism from the Church :crossrc:

I disagree with them being labeled as a "break away group" due to the fact that they are 100 percent Catholic and accept His Holiness, Pope Francis, to be the Vicar of Christ. However, they do disagree with many of the modernism the Church has been accepting for the past 50 years.

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I disagree with them being labeled as a "break away group" due to the fact that they are 100 percent Catholic and accept His Holiness, Pope Francis, to be the Vicar of Christ. However, they do disagree with many of the modernism the Church has been accepting for the past 50 years.

PAX

Do they accept Vatican II?
 
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Do they accept Vatican II?

Arch Bishop Lefebreve, founder of the SSPX, was a council Father and even signed the documents of Vatican 2. However, many Bishops began denieing Church teaching as well as Sacred Tradition. When His Excellency Archbishop Lefebreve protested against the apostasy of many Bishops they began to laugh at him as he cried against the destruction of the faith. Because of the results of the council this is why he rejected Vatican 2.
 
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I disagree with them being labeled as a "break away group" due to the fact that they are 100 percent Catholic and accept His Holiness, Pope Francis, to be the Vicar of Christ. However, they do disagree with many of the modernism the Church has been accepting for the past 50 years.

PAX

If they accepted the Pope as the Pope, they wouldn't be having the problems they are. They have decided for themselves what Catholicism is about. Their status is due to disagreeing with the Church.

The group has pretty much given up.
 
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If they accepted the Pope as the Pope, they wouldn't be having the problems they are. They have decided for themselves what Catholicism is about. Their status is due to disagreeing with the Church.

The group has pretty much given up.

They do accept The Pope for they are not sedevacantist nor do they identify themselves as such. The only things that separates the SSPX from the Vatican is the disagreement with Ecumenism and lack of tradition. Alot of their points come from Pope Pius X himself.
 
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They do accept The Pope for they are not sedevacantist nor do they identify themselves as such. The only things that separates the SSPX from the Vatican is the disagreement with Ecumenism and lack of tradition. Alot of their points come from Pope Pius X himself.

Who came before Vatican II.

If they accepted the Pope, they would be obedient.
 
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Who came before Vatican II.

If they accepted the Pope, they would be obedient.

So your telling me if the Pope began to contradict the ancient faith with modernism, such as saying atheists can possibly be saved, you wouldn't begin to question his opinions?
 
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RomanRite said:
So your telling me if the Pope began to contradict the ancient faith with modernism, such as saying atheists can possibly be saved, you wouldn't begin to question his opinions?

Is the Pope Infallible?
 
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