If LFW is true, how does sanctification work?

Ask Seek Knock said:

Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.

God has no problem with man seeking Him, yet man does.

1 Chronicles 16:11
Seek the Lord and his strength, seek his face continually.

We are told to seek His face continually, yet man has a problem with this.

1 Chronicles 22:19
Now set your heart and your soul to seek the Lord your God;

If man has a problem with seeking God, it could be he hasn't set his heart and soul on seeking Him.

1 Chronicles 28:9
And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.

Here David advises Solomon to seek God. Did Solomon fail in this?

2 Chronicles 12:14
And he did evil, because he prepared not his heart to seek the Lord.

Men do evil when they do not seek God with their heart.

2 Chronicles 15:13
That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

There are dire consequences for not seeking God.

Psalm 10:4
The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.

It is the wicked who do not seek God.

Psalm 27:8
When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, Lord, will I seek.

God tells us to seek Him.

Psalm 105:4
Seek the Lord, and his strength: seek his face evermore.

David tells us to seek the Lord.

Proverbs 28:5
Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things.

How will a man understand things if he doesn't seek the Lord?

Isaiah 11:10
And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

The Gentiles will seek the root of Jesse (care to guess who that is?).

Isaiah 55:6
Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

We are told to seek Him while He may be found. How will you find Him if you don't seek Him?

Jeremiah 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

You will only find Him when you seek for Him with all your heart. Again, how does a man find Him if he doesn't seek Him? It is only man who has a problem with the teaching of seeking the Lord.

I could give you more, but I think the point is clear.

So Hamm, why do you ask where it says anyone is seeking the Lord? It's all through the Bible. And as we have seen, it is the wicked who do not seek the Lord.

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Ask Seek Knock said:

Do you not believe a man must love God and his neighbor in order to inherit eternal life?

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Ask Seek Knock said:

Perhaps you should read what I said again.

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BetaChristian said:

Do you believe if a person has "a mere acceptance" of Jesus as Lord, yet shows with his deeds that he is wicked, is that person in a state of salvation?

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FreeGrace2 said:

You have revealed your non-grasp of context, my friend.

First, if you think that Rom 3:10 refers to everyone in humanity, then God surely failed in His creation, because Paul said that God created mankind to seek Him in Acts 17:26-27. So if no one has done so, God didn't too good of a job with the intent of His creation.

Second, Paul's point in 3:9 is that everyone without exception has sinned, both Jews and Gentiles. Everyone. Beginning in v.10, the phrase "as it is written..." is a hint that he was about to quote from the OT. And he quoted from 6 different passages to demonstrate HOW mankind sins. Do you really think that v.10-18 describes everyone without exception? Have you drawn blood and murdered people? I haven't.

v.10-12 come directly from Psa 14/53:1-3 where the subject is "fools"; those who say there is no God. They are the ones who don't seek God. Not everyone in humanity, as your wrongly assume.

Proper use of context helps to avoid the kind of error you have made.

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FreeGrace2 said:

Please explain what part of "yet not as I will, but as You will.” do you not understand.

He did His Father's will, not His own.

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FreeGrace2 said:

Throughout many threads, whenever the idea of God being fair towards humanity, Calvinists get all ruffled up about it, and make a lot of sarcastic remarks about "fairness" as if God lives by totally different rules than He sets down for mankind.

btw, you know exactly what I'm talking about. No need to act differently.

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