Was an “Atonement” for healing actually necessary?

Gospel Guy said:

The NT uses the Word "remission" primarily which is alot different from atonement.

Atonement basically means just covered up temporarily, while remission means washed away permanently as though our sin never existed in the first place.

Big difference between what the blood of animals did to cover sin, and what the Blood of Jesus Christ did to WASH AWAY our sin and caused us to be New Creatures in Christ

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lookie here...no clarification....give text next time, to show what you mean.

remission and atonement were both permanent in Christ, and you put them in the same sentence, so they must be about the same person because the remission could only come from Christ, so by way of proper language, the atonement had to be too!


So you sentence structure is at fault.

Frogster said:

lookie here...no clarification....give text next time, to show what you mean.

remission and atonement were both permanent in Christ, and you put them in the same sentence, so they must be about the same person because the remission could only come from Christ, so by way of proper language, the atonement had to be too!


So you sentence structure is at fault.

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You gotta Bible... you have access to the Holy Ghost... go do yer own studying, or ask your pastor.

JimB said:

I may have missed something, but I thought God had always physically healed the sick, from the Book of Genesis on (see Gen. 20.17). In fact, physical healing was provided all through the Old Testament— some of our favorite healing scriptures are in the OT (Ex. 15.26; Ps. 30.2; 103.3; etc.) So why would Jesus need to bear “stripes” for our physical healing if God was already healing the sick? This is just one more reason I believe the healing mentioned in Isa. 53.5 and 1 Peter 2.24 was spiritual and not physical. Only spiritual healing needed an atonement; physical healing didn’t.

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I believe God healed the house of Abimelek because Abraham interceded for him. And Abraham was a man of covenant. But what I find most interesting about that scripture in Gen 20:17 is that Abraham prayed to God that Abimelek's household could have children again. Abraham prayed something over Abimelek that he himself didn't even have in his own home. Then the very next verse God released the promise to Abraham. His wife became pregnant.

Bless you brother.

Jim It seems that by your reasoning the muslims could do as well healing others as us Christians. Is that how you see it?

JimB said:

So, you want us to do your work for you while you argue with us over some inane point you are making? Hmmm. Personally, I don't have the time to try to prove your off-the-wall points, GG; I really have a lot more interesting (and better) things to do.

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TasManOfGod said:

Jim It seems that by your reasoning the muslims could do as well healing others as us Christians. Is that how you see it?

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i guess muslims can gain by fasting also?