2 bubba,
since you ask the same question again. I have posted this answer under the topic "Unitarianism or Trinitarianism which is Biblical". but I'll give you the Post # so that you can Go and read. this only shows how blinded you really are. the scripture are true, John 12:37 "But though he had done so many miracles before them,
yet they believed not on him: 38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake,
Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? (Isa 53:1). 39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, 40
He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted,
and I should heal them. 41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him".
Isaiah saw the Glorified of God, the Christ, (Isaiah chapter 6). Just as I posted before, Christians, blind eyes, and deaf ears. Oh if you think I'm talking about the physically blind and deaf, Oh no. the spiritually blind, and deaf. supportive scripture, Isaiah 42:18 "Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.19 Who is blind,
but my servant? or deaf,
as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD'S servant?. 20
Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not. (STOP, HOW MANY POST HAVE I POSTED THAT YOU HAVE SEEN, AND READ?. NEITHER SEEN, NOR HEARD HIS VOICE, see you think its 101c speaking, Oh no. that's why I use scriptures, smile). lets continue. verse 21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable. 22
But this is a people robbed and spoiled; (YOU HAVE BEEN MADE MERCHANDISE OF, just as Revelation chapter 18 said. not of money or wealth, but of doctrine, you're still in Babylon). lets continue, said they are all of them
snared in holes, and they are
hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth;
for a spoil, and none saith, Restore. 23 Who among you will give ear to this? who will hearken and hear for the time to come? 24 Who gave Jacob for a spoil, and Israel
to the robbers? did not the LORD, he against whom we have sinned?
for they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law. 25 Therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle:
and it hath set him on fire round about,
yet he knew not; and it burned him, yet he laid it not to heart".
what an indictment against the spiritually blind, and deaf. as our Lord said, "don't let you flight be in winter". (smile)
I have answered this same question over and over. as well as I answered the boxer, on the same matter. so, I'll give you the same answer. your "us", and "our" are your hallmark of your trinity doctrine. mark these post down for future references. topic "Unitarianism or Trinitarianism which is Biblical", Post #830, and Post # 278. and this post explain away your trinity, Post #521.
and also I answered the plurality question again to the boxer in another post. I'll post it here in this topic with clarity, its short.
2 boxer,
I disagree,
you said, The singular "He" strengthens my point. God said, "Let US make man in OUR image". Then it says, "And God made man in HIS own image.
ERROR, "he" is singular.
and lets look at Genesis 1:27 again "So God created man in
his own image, in the image of God created
he him; male and female created
he them". "his", and "he" are
singular pronouns. so there is no plurality in God. the very next verse after 26 where the "us", and the "our", it clearly say "
he", singular as it also states in Chapter 5 verse 1 & 2
One, or a singularity, is not a plurality. but is singular, ONE. "God is a Spirit", he had no body. the image, or what manifest the Spirit
was to come, scripture, Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression,
who is the figure of him that was to come". only when he made that body, and shared his spirit in it, then is there a "us, and "our" meaning ONE God "diversified" in flesh, now with a shared spirit. scripture, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it,
calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he". calling?. watch God calling of thing, Romans 4:17 "(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead,
and calleth those things which be not as though they were". in Isaiah 41:4, (see that with). if he's with the Last how is he the First and the Last". listen, Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God". (the first "with" the last is the same one God). here he's the first and the last, but notice how it is worded, "I AM" the first, and "I AM" the last. am I saying that there are two "I AM'S?", NO listen, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am
he; I am the first, I also am the last" .
he, is singular, but the question begs, how can a he, singular, be both the First, and the Last?. because he, singular said, "also". now re-read what was just posted, and grasp the concept here. hint, John 1:1, the word was "
WITH" God just like the "first" was "
WITH" the "last". and in John 1:1 the word
was God. and the, "I AM" the first, and "I AM" the last; and beside me there is no God". see the semicolon right after the last "I AM", it means a continuance. Let me make it clear, the "first" (the Father, Spirit, without a body) is the "Last" (Son, Spirit, with a body). the same Spirit. the SAME ONE GOD. not two, or three, but only one Person, shared in spirit in a body. that's "DIVERSITY".
so bubba, your "us", and "our" is eliminated, both spiritually, and physically.
"where there is knowledge stay not ignorant"
and
"the truth hurts, but a lie will kill you"