Catholic Traditions vs The Bible.

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Catholics celebrate Mass every day of the week. The first communion was on Good Thursday, not on a Sunday. The first mention of communion outside of that on a specific day of the week is Sunday (according to the NT). I am not aware of any evidence of communion being celebrated on Saturday as part of the weekly communion celebration.

The Sunday Mass is celebrated on Saturday evenings because it is considered Sunday in the Jewish tradition. Monks, nuns, and priests have their Liturgy of Hours and there is no Saturday evening prayer- it's called Sunday Evening Prayer I.

That's pretty funny.
But then again I'm used to the RCC making conflicting statements, then justifying on the sole basis that 'we're right no matter what anyone sez because we say so.'

so Saturday is Sunday...and if you don't believe it...

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That's pretty funny.

Don't find anything funny about pointing out the facts.

But then again I'm used to the RCC making conflicting statements,

That's not a conflicting statement. Maybe it conflicts with what you believe. However, to say someone or something is making conflicting statements is to suggest they have said things that are in contradiction - and this isn't the case.

then justifying on the sole basis that 'we're right no matter what anyone sez because we say so.'

You are making no sense right now.

so Saturday is Sunday...and if you don't believe it...

No Saturday is Saturday. Sundays begin on Saturday evening according to the Jewish tradition of the Sabbath beginning on the evening of the day prior. Catholics cannot celebrate the Sunday Mass on Saturday morning or afternoon.
 
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You are asking two different questions.

Interpretation depends on many factors.

Who/what defines scripture is the Catholic Church.
No, it is the same question, simply asked in two ways...

You say, "Who/what defines scripture is the Catholic Church.", but based upon what foundation? Iow, Who/what says so?
 
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Don't find anything funny about pointing out the facts.

Here's funny. The RCC denigrates the SDA for Saturday Sabbath because it's what the Jews did.

Then the RCC does Saturday Mass.

The the RCC says it's not Saturday, but Sunday...because...

THE JEWS said so.

Which is why the SDA does Saturday Sabbath!

To me that is quite entirely hilarious. Second laugh. Thank you.

you can't make this stuff up.
 
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No denomination as more man made traditions than the Church of Rome.

Regarding the Law of God, it stands intact forever. Only God himself can change the Holy Law of God, the 10 Commandments.

...And no one has thrown out more solidly Christian and Biblically based traditions, practices and teachings than the SDA Church has.:preach:

Please, no explosions. There used to be a chap who was always exploding things ;)

I've seen a few bubbles broken from time to time too:D:D^_^^_^...

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Here's funny. The RCC denigrates the SDA for Saturday Sabbath because it's what the Jews did.

Then the RCC does Saturday Mass.

The the RCC says it's not Saturday, but Sunday...because...

THE JEWS said so.

Which is why the SDA does Saturday Sabbath!

To me that is quite entirely hilarious. Second laugh. Thank you.

you can't make this stuff up.

All right. All right. Second Phoenix misstated the point and so did not represent the RCC correctly with regard to this matter. You don't win any blue ribbons because of that.
 
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All right. All right. Second Phoenix misstated the point and so did not represent the RCC correctly with regard to this matter. You don't win any blue ribbons because of that.

aw come on. it was only worth humor points.

I thought it was pretty funny. 3rd laugh...^_^^_^^_^
 
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Originally Posted by CFTerminator
Here is the direct link from the Catholic Catechism. Did you not see it in the post? It explodes any idea that the 7th day is not binding.

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

I thought that was the 4th commandment :scratch:

Article 3

THE THIRD COMMANDMENT

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work.90
The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath; so the Son of Man is lord even of the sabbath.91
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ararYliFcCM

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It explodes any idea that the 7th day is not binding.
Please, no explosions. There used to be a chap who was always exploding things ;)
Too bad it can't be done to this thread :)

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quote=MarkRohfrietsch;64296946]...And no one has thrown out more solidly Christian and Biblically based traditions, practices and teachings than the SDA Church has.:preach:
SDA's discard man made traditions based on Jesus' words:

Matt. 15:9 "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
 
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SDA's discard man made traditions based on Jesus' words:

Matt. 15:9 "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

I believe that that was Mark's point.

Having deemed various Scriptural beliefs and practices that are common to both Catholicism and Protestantism to be disposable merely because the SDA leadership has labeled them "man made," the SDA has thrown out more Christian beliefs and practices than perhaps any other well-known denomination.

Personally, I'm not absolutely sure of that last point. The Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Scientists immediately come to my mind, but Mark's estimate is still a reasonable one.
 
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The entirety of the SDA notions over Saturday Sabbath are a mute point.

Theoretically any honest SDA member should be able to sit in that pew on Saturday and come to the honest conclusion that they did NOT become sinless, even on a temporary basis, by doing that.

yet they will claim that all other believers are sinning by not doing so?

I prefer my faith to be sprinkled with HONESTY. It's much more pleasant to sit in the pew in a TRUTHFUL manner

and there is a great side benefit of NOT having to claim some utter nonsense to other believers in the process.

go figure....must be just me.

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The entirety of the SDA notions over Saturday Sabbath are a mute point.
Are they also a moot point? :)

Theoretically any honest SDA member should be able to sit in that pew on Saturday and come to the honest conclusion that they did NOT become sinless, even on a temporary basis, by doing that.
Is there some Christian of any denomination that thinks sitting in that pew makes him sinless? This sounds like a candidate for the "Strawman of the Year" contest finals.


I prefer my faith to be sprinkled with HONESTY.
Meaning what? Are we supposed to conclude from that statement that the members of every other denomination prefer their faith to be sprinkled with DIShonesty? :doh:
 
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The entirety of the SDA notions over Saturday Sabbath are a mute point.

Theoretically any honest SDA member should be able to sit in that pew on Saturday and come to the honest conclusion that they did NOT become sinless, even on a temporary basis, by doing that.

yet they will claim that all other believers are sinning by not doing so?

I prefer my faith to be sprinkled with HONESTY. It's much more pleasant to sit in the pew in a TRUTHFUL manner

and there is a great side benefit of NOT having to claim some utter nonsense to other believers in the process.

go figure....must be just me.

s

When you know what the Commandment says, and you knowingly ignore it, that is a flagrant sin in the sight of God. Moreover, you are not sinning against against me or the SDA church, you are sinning against God himself who wrote the Commandment.
 
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...And no one has thrown out more solidly Christian and Biblically based traditions, practices and teachings than the SDA Church has.:preach:



I've seen a few bubbles broken from time to time too:D:D^_^^_^...

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I believe that that was Mark's point.

Having deemed various Scriptural beliefs and practices that are common to both Catholicism and Protestantism to be disposable merely because the SDA leadership has labeled them "man made," the SDA has thrown out more Christian beliefs and practices than perhaps any other well-known denomination.

Personally, I'm not absolutely sure of that last point. The Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Scientists immediately come to my mind, but Mark's estimate is still a reasonable one.

Thanks Albion; I'm so glad that someone gets it (you always have BTW)!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: BTW, I personally consider the SDA Churches Christian; however, I can not, in good conscience say the same for the other two aforementioned ones, to which can be added Mormons and Christidelphians too.
 
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Thanks Albion; I'm so glad that someone gets it (you always have BTW)!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: BTW, I personally consider the SDA Churches Christian; however, I can not, in good conscience say the same for the other two aforementioned ones, to which can be added Mormons and Christidelphians too.

Mark: Thank you for making this statement:

"I personally consider the SDA Churches Christian"
 
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